is madara the next SO6P

[Sot viing hun]

can someone explain to me what the Creation of all things IS??please

It's the jutsu that Rikudō Sennin used to create the nine tailed beasts from the chakra of the ten tails, with the administration of imagination, and the spiritual energy(Yin) he could create physical forms from nothingness. Then aplicating vitality, and physical energy(Yang), he could breathe life into that forms.

 

[Aenigma]

Lol, no. He wishes to be. But he isn't.

 

[lordmadarauchiha]

and why does that matter when he has this?:

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controlling the juubi duh

 

[TheSages456]

I think it would as he was using susanoo and rikudou jutsu!!!! U stated it, and i dont recall madara saying such things.

rikudo jutsu comes from a combo of senju & uchiha. thats why kabuto said that he can touch a fragment of rikudo sennins power.

here is where madara says that susano keeps him from using preta path effectively which is a rinnegan tech. this is the official viz translation:

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No necessarily. Madara said that PS was madara's full power. He just views senju etc as not his own. While in prime body madara had no rinnegan, and when he got rinnegan he had no body. So his edo mixed both, thats way he is beyond his prime.

who says that madara doesnt view his mokuton as his own power? its a part of him. edo madara is madara. edo madara which is madara says that PS is his full power. madara gained new techs but they are weaker than perfect susano. do you understand? prime madara is purely an uchiha. edo madara is a rikudo version of prime madara. the full power of both madaras is perfect susano.

 

[TheSages456]

controlling the juubi duh

you do realize that madara cant control the juubi by himself right? he needs obito.

 

[AlphaScythian]

how does this mean that hashirama wasnt in the epicenter? one panel before the explosion he is shown right next to the bijudama. the next panel, he is shown to have made a mokuton dome for defense. he never went anywhere.
im saying that shinsuusenju is more durable than a wood dome if we go by common sense & the fact that it can take PS slashes.

And it also shows madara with his susanoo at epicentre, but after frame changed we see madara on top of kurama with armour. So hashi could have easily gotten away from epicentre to weaken TBB effects.
While i agree that SM could strengthen mokuton, i see no reasons for it to be stronger then rock, so not much logic for budda to tank slashes, yet alone facts as u say.

logic isnt fan made. when something happens in canon, you have to accept it. PIS & CIS are poor cop outs to justify a character losing.

CIS/PIS are logically valid, they dont change manga but prove there could be different outcome!

i didnt see anyone helping hashirama at VOTE. we saw both hashirama at full power at the end of the VOTE flashback. there was no holding back.

We've only seen beginning of the battle, and its proven that mito joined later on. I guess if budda would do his job well mito wouldnt be needed! We still to find out why madara lost, to judge his power.

 

[foxyladyland]

It's the jutsu that Rikudō Sennin used to create the nine tailed beasts from the chakra of the ten tails, with the administration of imagination, and the spiritual energy(Yin) he could create physical forms from nothingness. Then aplicating vitality, and physical energy(Yang), he could breathe life into that forms.

thanks for the explanation exploration

 

[lordmadarauchiha]

What the hell is wrong with you people I ask a simple question and you are arguing about pitiful stuff and by the way I got my answer for the sh**t you guys wrote.The answer is yes he is the next sage in eyes and body but not ideals

 

[foxyladyland]

Its perfect izanagi

what does that mean, go back in time over and over again??
I always wondered why in naruto the uchiha sharigan
since it can see things a millisecond into the future, why no one ever tried to use it for seeing into the future..
trying to enhance it or something. you know what I mean?

 

[TheSages456]

And it also shows madara with his susanoo at epicentre, but after frame changed we see madara on top of kurama with armour. So hashi could have easily gotten away from epicentre to weaken TBB effects.
While i agree that SM could strengthen mokuton, i see no reasons for it to be stronger then rock, so not much logic for budda to tank slashes, yet alone facts as u say.

madaras tanked bijudama with incomplete PS then used complete PS to put armor on the kyuubi after the explosion. think for a second. madara wasnt even done putting susano armor on the kyuubi by the time the smoke cleared. if madara started putting susano armor on the kyuubi before the explosion, the kyuubi wouldve been damaged since madara wouldnt have put on the armor in time. so incomplete PS did in fact, tank bijudama.

the bold is unsupported & not implied. neither hashirama or madara were shown to move during the explosion or before. how is mokuton not stronger than rock? do you realize that mokuton tears through rock during the formation of jukai koutain & the flower world? both jukai koutan and the flower world dont come close to the power of shinsuusenju.

CIS/PIS are logically valid, they dont change manga but prove there could be different outcome! We've only seen beginning of the battle, and its proven that mito joined later on. I guess if budda would do his job well mito wouldnt be needed! We still to find out why madara lost, to judge his power.

no. what kishi puts on paper is the only outcome. twist your arguments to fit the manga, dont twist the manga to fit your arguments. how is it proven that mito joined? mito is in no scan of the fight. she isnt even shown in the scan which shows the aftermath of the fight.
its also stated that she came to konoha to become a jinchuriki of the kyuubi that was already in the possession of konoha. with that said, it means that you misinterpreted what kushina said.

 

[AlphaScythian]

madaras tanked bijudama with incomplete PS then used complete PS to put armor on the kyuubi after the explosion. think for a second. madara wasnt even done putting susano armor on the kyuubi by the time the smoke cleared. if madara started putting susano armor on the kyuubi before the explosion, the kyuubi wouldve been damaged since madara wouldnt have put on the armor in time. so incomplete PS did in fact, tank bijudama.

When susanoo swords came upon contact with TBB he only shielded half kurama, after explosion we see fully shielded kurama, and hashi on the ground, not to mention how fast hashirama run away from madara in matter of seconds, so he easily could reach the ground!

the bold is unsupported & not implied. neither hashirama or madara were shown to move during the explosion or before. how is mokuton not stronger than rock? do you realize that mokuton tears through rock during the formation of jukai koutain & the flower world? both jukai koutan and the flower world dont come close to the power of shinsuusenju.

Its even pointless to discuss how mokuton is weaker then rock ffs. Even small flower tears through asphalt when grows but is not stronger to external damage then it.

no. what kishi puts on paper is the only outcome. twist your arguments to fit the manga, dont twist the manga to fit your arguments. how is it proven that mito joined? mito is in no scan of the fight. she isnt even shown in the scan which shows the aftermath of the fight.
its also stated that she came to konoha to become a jinchuriki of the kyuubi that was already in the possession of konoha. with that said, it means that you misinterpreted what kushina said.

Kushina said "mito sealed kurama in order to better help..." She wasnt brought after.
And i wont be repeating again w/o insulting u next time. CIS/PIS prove possibility of another outcome had character A chosen action B instead of A. U cant possibly disprove this.

 

[AlphaScythian]

what does that mean, go back in time over and over again??
I always wondered why in naruto the uchiha sharigan
since it can see things a millisecond into the future, why no one ever tried to use it for seeing into the future..
trying to enhance it or something. you know what I mean?

Izanagi or creation of all things. Its ability to create form and bring it to life. Simply put make ur thoughts come true.

Sharingan does not see into future. It provides u greater perception. Simply put u can clearly see 100 frames per second in great detail, which allows u to react to next move (just example, or real world comparison)

 

[saw2097]

Madara wants to be the next SO6P, but he isn't.

The Sage wasn't just about Power he was about ideals, he had the will of fire just like Hashirama and Naruto.

While I don't think Naruto will have the power of the Sage of 6 Paths, I think he has the ideals of him and I think thats more important.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Madara wants to be the next SO6P, but he isn't.

The Sage wasn't just about Power he was about ideals, he had the will of fire just like Hashirama and Naruto.

While I don't think Naruto will have the power of the Sage of 6 Paths, I think he has the ideals of him and I think thats more important.

Lol no1 seeks so6p ideals, but power so...

 

[TheSages456]

When susanoo swords came upon contact with TBB he only shielded half kurama, after explosion we see fully shielded kurama, and hashi on the ground, not to mention how fast hashirama run away from madara in matter of seconds, so he easily could reach the ground!

madaras susano was completely in front of the kyuubi so the kyuubi wasnt hit. if madara started putting armor on it prior to the explosion, the kyuubi wouldve been damaged as we still see that parts of it are exposed after the smoke clears.
hashirama running from the explosion is unsupported. why cant you understand this? all he did was make a mokuton dome.

Its even pointless to discuss how mokuton is weaker then rock ffs. Even small flower tears through asphalt when grows but is not stronger to external damage then it.

wood tanks bijudama which vaporizes rock. i cant make this any simpler. you are incompetent if you cant understand this.

Kushina said "mito sealed kurama in order to better help..." She wasnt brought after.
And i wont be repeating again w/o insulting u next time. CIS/PIS prove possibility of another outcome had character A chosen action B instead of A. U cant possibly disprove this.

the scan doesnt say that. now you are lying.

its stated that mito came to konoha to become the jinchuriki of the kyuubi that was already in konohas possession. that disproves your argument & its supported by mito being shown in no scan in the VOTE fight.

you can get mad all you want but when kishi puts his pencil to paper, all other possibilities cease to exist. PIS/CIS are fan made terms. they are useless in debates. its a concession in disguise.

 

[saw2097]

Lol no1 seeks so6p ideals, but power so...

So what, power is just a means to an end, tell me if a guy has absolute power and does nothing good with it, does that make him greater then a guy with lesser power but cures cancer.

Its what you do with power that matters not the power itself, thats what history remembers.

 

[lordmadarauchiha]

madara is the next sage in body and eyes not in ideals and personilities

 

[AlphaScythian]

madaras susano was completely in front of the kyuubi so the kyuubi wasnt hit. if madara started putting armor on it prior to the explosion, the kyuubi wouldve been damaged as we still see that parts of it are exposed after the smoke clears.

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U can clearly see how madara shields kyuubi. So madara did put armour b4 it and completed while explosion happened.

hashirama running from the explosion is unsupported. why cant you understand this? all he did was make a mokuton dome.

Its is, as hashi was in point A b4 explosion, then in point B after it. Just cuz its not in scan doesnt mean it didn happen, there was no scan how senju defeated madara, so can i claim they didnt fight?

wood tanks bijudama which vaporizes rock. i cant make this any simpler. you are incompetent if you cant understand this.

Wood doent tank sh*t, sasuke easily broke from yamatos wood prison. And when u see all mokuton vaporised but one shell, it means that shell is something else.

the scan doesnt say that. now you are lying.
its stated that mito came to konoha to become the jinchuriki of the kyuubi that was already in konohas possession. that disproves your argument & its supported by mito being shown in no scan in the VOTE fight.
you can get mad all you want but when kishi puts his pencil to paper, all other possibilities cease to exist. PIS/CIS are fan made terms. they are useless in debates. its a concession in disguise.

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Well then u just have little knowledge of this manga. Not every fact is on panel, u have to bring them from all panels.

And i tell u last time. Character A beating character B doesnt always mean A>B in terms of power. I hope ur not too stupid to deny this.
We arent questioning outcome of manga here, we question power!!!

 

[AlphaScythian]

So what, power is just a means to an end, tell me if a guy has absolute power and does nothing good with it, does that make him greater then a guy with lesser power but cures cancer.
Its what you do with power that matters not the power itself, thats what history remembers.

Light and shadow are both needed, so is good and evil. There is no preference in gods eyes, but our preferences.
And madara doesnt want to kill or rule the world, but change it, some ppl are too afraid of change

 

[TheSages456]

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U can clearly see how madara shields kyuubi. So madara did put armour b4 it and completed while explosion happened.

madaras susano is

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. the kyuubi wasnt even completely put in armor when the smoke was clearing. your conclusion doesnt make any sense. using your scenario, the kyuubi shouldve been damaged.

Its is, as hashi was in point A b4 explosion, then in point B after it. Just cuz its not in scan doesnt mean it didn happen, there was no scan how senju defeated madara, so can i claim they didnt fight?

hashirama merely summoned a wood dome & shielded himself. he was not shown to move so he didnt move. whats wrong with you? we saw the VOTE fight so your analogy makes no sense.

Wood doent tank sh*t, sasuke easily broke from yamatos wood prison. And when u see all mokuton vaporised but one shell, it means that shell is something else.

i sense butthurt.

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Well then u just have little knowledge of this manga. Not every fact is on panel, u have to bring them from all panels.

And i tell u last time. Character A beating character B doesnt always mean A>B in terms of power. I hope ur not too stupid to deny this.
We arent questioning outcome of manga here, we question power!!!

are you retarded? you misinterpreted kushinas words. its stated in the same scan that you brought up that kushina & mito were brought to konoha for the sole purpose of becoming the kyuubis jinchuriki which means that there is no way that mito sealed the kyuubi at VOTE.
there are also no panels of her at VOTE & this supports my stance, not your fanfiction.

if character A beats character B, then character A is logically better than character B. im done discussing this point. ive proven you wrong countless times. stop making excuses.