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after shishui death it was reset by who? itachi? the eye didint belong to him and that was not his jutsu??? also the point of itachi programming amaterasu....doesn't sasuke have that in his arsenal to begin with? not only that but he uses amaterasu better than itachi. also it doesnt have a ten year reactivation time.

you keep sayin more infuence but what if i told you that itachi was the one who influenced shisui. and you know why i can say that because the manga hasn't stated it to be flase. itachi just said that shisui shared the same ideals as him. what if itachi was the one that asked shisui to help him.? how does your theory work then.?

itachi said he learned protecting the village from its shadows form shisui.... and shisui , when he went to talk to itachi stated that he tried to stop the rebellion by casting KA (probably) in his flashback in chapter (i will love you forever) to sasuke..as if itachi didnt know about shisui's plans to use KA to stop Fugaku's plans...
Also Sasuke didnt even know how to use the Amateratsu before that because he wasnt couldnt remember he had MS unlocked before...
Itachi used all those jutsu to teach Sasuke about them, and look at his battles with Sasuke as training Sasuke to get stronger and smarter
 

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itachi said he learned protecting the village from its shadows form shisui.... and shisui , when he went to talk to itachi stated that he tried to stop the rebellion by casting KA (probably) in his flashback in chapter (i will love you forever) to sasuke..as if itachi didnt know about shisui's plans to use KA to stop Fugaku's plans...
Also Sasuke didnt even know how to use the Amateratsu before that because he wasnt couldnt remember he had MS unlocked before...
Itachi used all those jutsu to teach Sasuke about them, and look at his battles with Sasuke as training Sasuke to get stronger and smarter

you said it yourself he tried to use KA which means he didint and why would he use it on itachi .. i keep asking that is because that whole...he needed more influence story is not plausible. like i said itachi can think for himself and after seeing shisui die his reslove was pretty much intact he didint need anymore influence specially when danzo's telling him do this and your brother will live ...if you don't he will die ....i think that motivation in itself.

and yes sasuke did not know amaterasu but as a uchiha and as itachi's brother that jutsu was already in his eye itachi just activated it because you can use it multiple times, i wonder what if itachi made him activate izanagi ...sasuke would only have 1 eye know lmao
 

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you said it yourself he tried to use KA which means he didint and why would he use it on itachi .. i keep asking that is because that whole...he needed more influence story is not plausible. like i said itachi can think for himself and after seeing shisui die his reslove was pretty much intact he didint need anymore influence specially when danzo's telling him do this and your brother will live ...if you don't he will die ....i think that motivation in itself.
and yes sasuke did not know amaterasu but as a uchiha and as itachi's brother that jutsu was already in his eye itachi just activated it because you can use it multiple times, i wonder what if itachi made him activate izanagi ...sasuke would only have 1 eye know lmao
Shisui had MS activated when he told itachi to protect konoha, but shisui knew itachi wouldnt have wanted to killl his own clan,
shisui died after not before he told him to protect konoha,
hahaha izanagi would have been terrible lol but itachi knows izanami
 

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Shisui had MS activated when he told itachi to protect konoha, but shisui knew itachi wouldnt have wanted to killl his own clan,
shisui died after not before he told him to protect konoha,
hahaha izanagi would have been terrible lol but itachi knows izanami

sorry i just don't agree with you...the manga has made it pretty clear that itachi had no problem klling his clan...(his family different story). third hokage went about it in a different more subtle way...but danzou did not want peace period ...when shisui tried using KA he got his eye snatched by danzou and after seeing that itachi had enough of this meaningless feud and did not want the village to go trough war and be again in bad times like pre-village era( where current manga is)

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at the end of it all itachi was a spy for the leaf... you know what that tells me that he did not give a rip about his clan. and did not have to be under genjutsu to kill his clan....itachi cried when he killed his parents but his parents were on the wrong side he had to do what he had to do.
 

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sorry i just don't agree with you...the manga has made it pretty clear that itachi had no problem klling his clan...(his family different story). third hokage went about it in a different more subtle way...but danzou did not want peace period ...when shisui tried using KA he got his eye snatched by danzou and after seeing that itachi had enough of this meaningless feud and did not want the village to go trough war and be again in bad times like pre-village era( where current manga is)

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at the end of it all itachi was a spy for the leaf... you know what that tells me that he did not give a rip about his clan. and did not have to be under genjutsu to kill his clan....itachi cried when he killed his parents but his parents were on the wrong side he had to do what he had to do.

that sarutobi in the picture states"after FORCING him to kill his clan"ur arguing with yourself that time....
he cared about his clan maybe, he just didnt want them and the village to fight eachother..he spied & reported back to Hokage because hopefully Sarutobi would have worked out a deal with the Uchiha so they wouldnt feel that hatred towards the leaf...
also KA was in both eyes(some people dont know that STILL)
 

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that sarutobi in the picture states"after FORCING him to kill his clan"ur arguing with yourself that time....
he cared about his clan maybe, he just didnt want them and the village to fight eachother..he spied & reported back to Hokage because hopefully Sarutobi would have worked out a deal with the Uchiha so they wouldnt feel that hatred towards the leaf...
also KA was in both eyes(some people dont know that STILL)

actually these are mangapanda scans ....in *********** scans which aren't up anymore did not say that.

but very interesting notes ....even after the uchiha clan was assassinated itachi wanted to be spy to make the uchihas(which were killed off ) more happy? do you even know what your saying?

and yes i know KA is in both eyes hence used twice by danzou and itachi ( you do know that itachi gave naruto the eye because itachi knew he would die by the hands of sasuke and take his eyes) so as soon as itachi eyes which would be in sasuke activates the MS.... KA would occur. so if sasuke didnnt take his eyes then the plan would not have worked.....but itachi got lucky and used t to free himself from edo tensei. thats just plot no jutsu there.
 
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nice theory but nah. Shisui was shown talking to itachi in the flashback shown to sasuke. Also, the 3rd hokage confirmed that itachi had a hokages reasoning at a young age. What he did was not out of character for someone like him.
 

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actually these are mangapanda scans ....in *********** scans which aren't up anymore did not say that.but very interesting notes ....even after the uchiha clan was assassinated itachi wanted to be spy to make the uchihas(which were killed off ) more happy? do you even know what your saying?and yes i know KA is in both eyes hence used twice by danzou and itachi ( you do know that itachi gave naruto the eye because itachi knew he would die by the hands of sasuke and take his eyes) so as soon as itachi eyes which would be in sasuke activates the MS.... KA would occur. so if sasuke didnnt take his eyes then the plan would not have worked.....but itachi got lucky and used t to free himself from edo tensei. thats just plot no jutsu there.

when i said spy , i meant he spying on the uchiha for sarutobi and because he was acting weird the uchiha asked shisui to spy on him :)
 

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nice theory but nah. Shisui was shown talking to itachi in the flashback shown to sasuke. Also, the 3rd hokage confirmed that itachi had a hokages reasoning at a young age. What he did was not out of character for someone like him.

your avatar is a picture ffrom that manga scan, Shisui had his MS active while he was talking to itachi so maybe he cast it on him then...... Itachi truly admires Shisui so if Shisui said it then Itachi would believe it , im almost sure , because Shisui doesnt seem untrustworthy to Itachi. Yeah his reasoning was like Hokage, but even Hashirama nor Sarutobi could kill there own brethen, Hiruzen let Oro get away before then he finally came to his senses during the Sands,Sounds assault
 

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your avatar is a picture ffrom that manga scan, Shisui had his MS active while he was talking to itachi so maybe he cast it on him then...... Itachi truly admires Shisui so if Shisui said it then Itachi would believe it , im almost sure , because Shisui doesnt seem untrustworthy to Itachi. Yeah his reasoning was like Hokage, but even Hashirama nor Sarutobi could kill there own brethen, Hiruzen let Oro get away before then he finally came to his senses during the Sands,Sounds assault

Doubt it. Shisui said 'please protect the village' as he was giving his eye to itachi. We saw how koto is already embedded with a command to do sth. Shisui wouldnt have had to say that to him if he had used ka

The hokages would put the village above all else.Look the biggest problem with your theory to my mind is:
itachi was CRYING before he stabbed his parents. If he was under genjutsu, that should have killed his emotions completely. He wouldnt have any will of his own left, like an edo whos completely controlled. This was shown not to be the case during the massacre.
 

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Doubt it. Shisui said 'please protect the village' as he was giving his eye to itachi. We saw how koto is already embedded with a command to do sth. Shisui wouldnt have had to say that to him if he had used ka

The hokages would put the village above all else.Look the biggest problem with your theory to my mind is:
itachi was CRYING before he stabbed his parents. If he was under genjutsu, that should have killed his emotions completely. He wouldnt have any will of his own left, like an edo whos completely controlled. This was shown not to be the case during the massacre.
i know Shisui was shown in the manga pic with the eye in his hand when he said "please protect the village" but he still might have said it while his eye was still in, he might have even pointed it at Itachi when he said it while holding it.
Its possible.... like Itachi programming it for Sasuke while it wasnt in his own eye socket(maybe the crow's though.)
Itachi could still feel emotion after KA broke him out of EDO Tensei control when he gave Sasuke his last hug bye....
You could still know what your doing but your still capable of being sad.....Kakashi felt pain in Tsukunomi.......
He had his own will left, but he had the SAME as Shisui's, to Protect the Village. Those are his emotions to protect Konoha , his love for the Leaf..Like Edo tensei you can still have your personality intact.
Like when Naruto was talking about Itachi's mission then Itachi told him to stop talking about it because he didnt want the Uchiha to get a bad name....(nevermind......He could have said it to preserve some of the secret that he was ordered by the Higher Ups of the Leaf to kill Uchiha, Sasuke would hate that and attack the Leaf.):)
 

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Doubt it. Shisui said 'please protect the village' as he was giving his eye to itachi. We saw how koto is already embedded with a command to do sth. Shisui wouldnt have had to say that to him if he had used ka

The hokages would put the village above all else.Look the biggest problem with your theory to my mind is:
itachi was CRYING before he stabbed his parents. If he was under genjutsu, that should have killed his emotions completely. He wouldnt have any will of his own left, like an edo whos completely controlled. This was shown not to be the case during the massacre.

I already tried to explain this. Foxylady is in Lalaland.

Speculation based off a speculation based off a speculation.
 

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I already tried to explain this. Foxylady is in Lalaland.

Speculation based off a speculation based off a speculation.

it is STILL possible, i know its a bit of a stretch , but like Sasuke and Kakashi having unlocked MS once before actually remembering it.
It could still be revealed through more chapters that when Shisui said that, "protect the village" line , he cast KA on itachi..
remember Itachi doesnt have to look into your eyes to cast Tsukunomi
 

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smh, this theory is decent. Itachi knew what he had to do to better the village, I think he would kill his whole clan just for sasuke and that this was said in the Manga that he saw the better path like 20 times. Itachi is wise as a kage you can not really debate to it since it was stated in the Manga. He was a anbu at a young age I think he had the mentality to kill for his brother since he was not a innocent Uchia{his sharigan}
 

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Also I was trying to be nice your theory is base off speculation after speculation, to have a proper theory at least have a hypothesis. Thus you need facts to further claim your theory. And no this is not the best theory in the world. This guy narutobase got the theory right for one of the latest chap, his prediction had logical reasoning.

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Double ps: If this was true Itachi char development would been dead and made him seem like a fodder ninja.
 

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i know Shisui was shown in the manga pic with the eye in his hand when he said "please protect the village" but he still might have said it while his eye was still in, he might have even pointed it at Itachi when he said it while holding it.
Its possible.... like Itachi programming it for Sasuke while it wasnt in his own eye socket(maybe the crow's though.)
Itachi could still feel emotion after KA broke him out of EDO Tensei control when he gave Sasuke his last hug bye....
You could still know what your doing but your still capable of being sad.....Kakashi felt pain in Tsukunomi.......
He had his own will left, but he had the SAME as Shisui's, to Protect the Village. Those are his emotions to protect Konoha , his love for the Leaf..Like Edo tensei you can still have your personality intact.
Like when Naruto was talking about Itachi's mission then Itachi told him to stop talking about it because he didnt want the Uchiha to get a bad name....(nevermind......He could have said it to preserve some of the secret that he was ordered by the Higher Ups of the Leaf to kill Uchiha, Sasuke would hate that and attack the Leaf.):)
He might have. He might also have been remotely controlled by aliens from outer space. Kindly look at probability rather than twisting the manga to suit wild assumptions. The ka itachi used on himself cancelled the edo tensei so ofc there was emotional effect left. The probability that shisui put itachi under an illusion is very remote. For starters, itachi knew so much about the tech doubt hed be unaware he had been caught in it. And when completely under its control, the edos personalities are no more, didnt you read what oro said?
I already tried to explain this. Foxylady is in Lalaland.

Speculation based off a speculation based off a speculation.

Lol looks that way.
 

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Originally Posted by yoshimitsu
I already tried to explain this. Foxylady is in Lalaland.

Speculation based off a speculation based off a speculation.


I´m feeling the vibe, though Kishimoto has become a troll-spawn, so forth trolls shall reign in naruto forums. -hail!! (lifts his tar at the troll pub xD ) -
 

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He might have. He might also have been remotely controlled by aliens from outer space. Kindly look at probability rather than twisting the manga to suit wild assumptions. The ka itachi used on himself cancelled the edo tensei so ofc there was emotional effect left. The probability that shisui put itachi under an illusion is very remote. For starters, itachi knew so much about the tech doubt hed be unaware he had been caught in it. And when completely under its control, the edos personalities are no more, didnt you read what oro said?

Well to tell you something Itachi would never know when KA is casted on him, its the greatest afterall. After I saw that Danzo used it on the Samurai leader and was undetected but only seen by a byakugan user, I'm confident that if Shusui used Koto on Itachi he would never notice
 

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Very good , I agree with this theory but remember Itachi said that there is a weakness for every jutsu, maybe the weakness of KA is that intense feelings of emotions can overpower it? This would explain why he didn't kill Sasuke.
 
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