Elemental chakra ranked from weakest to strongest

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So the question should be what element is the most versitile and not the strongest. imo
The most versatile is the ONLY thing that divides the elements, thus, we can judge if an element is the strongest or not if they are more versatile.

I guess I'm going to have to rephrase this to, "The best element", don't get this confused with favorite element.
 

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Your post is contradictory. There is a clean explanation in the manga, and your classification does not make any sense.

Initially, there is a classification of the elements by which one his stronger than which one. There aren't classification of a single element vs many elements.

For example, for two people with equal strength fire > wind, because wind will strengthen the fire. However, if the wind user has more power in his wind, he will blow the fire back to its owner. This happened at the vote when Naruto in Kyuubi cloack returned Sasuke's fire with a shockwave of wind from his mouth.

Another example is that at equal strength, wind > lightning. However, again, intrinsic strength of the shinobi plays a great deal of role in the weighting.

From these two example, you can see that your ranking has many flaws. Besides, there is no direct comparison between element that are far apart in the circle.

Concerning the versatility, it all wind up to the knowledge of each user. Naruto has massive wind but he does not know all the Jutsu Danzou can perform. In fact, he only knows FRS. Kakashi can do lightning Bushin and the bushin is just like Kakashi. There is no difference between Kakashi's lightning Bushin and his water bushin (appearance-wise). I won't be surprise if any element can be used to make Bushin.
Fire and Wind were never shown to make a Bushin.

Sorry for my triple post BTW.
 

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Think about it like this:
OFFENSE SPEED CONTROL DEFENSE
FIRE LIGHTNING WIND WATER EARTH

Fire - pure offense/destructive capability, but very little control

Lightning - incredible speed/power, but with little control and defense

Wind - one of the most versatile with good defense, offense, and speed. The easiest element to control.

Water - like wind, it is also very veratile with good offense, defense, speed and control, though has better defensive and offense capabilities since it is more solid than air.

Earth - The best in defense with decent speed, and control due to the abundance of it. Also very powerful because of earths solidity, but a bit lacking in mobility simply because it its limited as to how it can move.
 
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Overall Ranking of the Five Elements
1. Earth - The best overall defensive elemental nature. You can make clones out of earth release and those clones are far more durable than most other types of clones. Can be used to deal crushing and blunt type of damage. Can be used to trap adversaries (shinobi, summons and even bijuu). You can attack your opponents in various ways such as attacking underneath them which you can't do with any other element. Hashirama and Gaara are far stronger than most regular elemental release users and their abilities are quite similar to earth release users.

2. Wind - Wind is primarily used for slicing based damage and therefore, has the best slicing abilities. Not only that, it can also deal pressure based damage too depending on the user and the jutsu used. Wind is also a perfect counter to various other types of wide area of effect attacks or abilities such as sound based attacks including sound genjutsu. Wind makes projectile based attacks completely and utterly useless. Another benefit of wind is its ability to blow away poison gas, blinding dust and mist which allows the user to avoid dangerous situations that are hard to get out of.

3. Lightning - Lightning jutsus are primarily used for penetration style attacks so they are the best for piercing through powerful defences. It can also inflict paralysis which can help overcome a tough and durable enemy. For example, lighting clones may not be durable but if the enemy touches it, they get paralysed allowing the user to finish them off. The bad thing about lightning is that it doesn't have many defensive purposes to it.

4. Water - Can deal pressure based damage, obscure vision and make use of water clones. The problem is that water clones aren't very durable and useful compared to earth and lightning clones. It is true the water prison can trap enemies but so can earth prison. Pressure based damage isn't all that great compared to slicing and penetrative type of attacks. Even wind can deal pressure based damage making that element more versatile in terms of offence. Other than drowning, there isn't much else water release can do.

5. Fire - Probably the least useful element due to its lack of versatility. Katons are useful because they can burn their opponents and the heat generated from them can be quite useful under some circumstances but katons have been shown to be easily avoided pretty easily and immortals won't take damage. Fire can, however, obscure the opponent's vision just like water can but to a much smaller extent. Also fire doesn't have defensive uses and you can't make clones out of them.

Best Offence
1. Lightning
2. Wind
3. Earth
4. Fire
5. Water

Best Defence
1. Earth
2. Wind
3. Water
4. Lightning
5. Fire

Other Uses/Overall Versatility
1. Earth
2. Water
3. Wind
4. Lightning
5. Fire
 
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1. Earth - The best overall defensive elemental nature. You can make clones out of earth release and those clones are far more durable than most other types of clones. Can be used to deal crushing and blunt type of damage. Can be used to trap adversaries (shinobi, summons and even bijuu). You can attack your opponents in various ways such as attacking underneath them which you can't do with any other element. Hashirama and Gaara are far stronger than most regular elemental release users and their abilities are quite similar to earth release users.

2. Wind - Wind is primarily used for slicing based damage and therefore, has the best slicing abilities. Not only that, it can also deal pressure based damage too depending on the user and the jutsu used. Wind is also a perfect counter to various other types of wide area of effect attacks or abilities such as sound based attacks including sound genjutsu (can one shot high kage tiers too). Wind makes projectile based attacks completely and utterly useless. Another benefit of wind is its ability to blow away poison gas, blinding dust and mist which allows the user to avoid dangerous situations that are hard to get out of.

3. Lightning - Lightning jutsus are primarily used for penetration style attacks so they are the best for piercing through powerful defences. For example, lighting clones may not be durable but if the enemy touches it, they get paralysed allowing the user to finish them off. It can also inflict paralysis which can help overcome a tough and durable enemy. The bad thing about lightning is that it doesn't have many defensive purposes to it.

4. Water - Can deal pressure based damage, obscure vision and make use of water clones. The problem is that water clones aren't very durable and useful compared to earth and lightning clones. It is true the water prison can trap enemies but so can earth prison. Pressure based damage isn't all that great compared to slicing and penetrative type of attacks. Even wind can deal pressure based damage making that element more versatile in terms of offense. Other than drowning, there isn't much else water release can do.

5. Fire - Probably the least useful element due to its lack of versatility. Katons are useful because they can burn their opponents and the heat generated from them can be quite useful under some circumstances but katons have been shown to be easily avoided pretty easily and immortals won't take damage. Fire can, however, obscure the opponent's vision just like water can but to a much smaller extent. Also fire doesn't have defensive uses and you can't make clones out of them.
I agree with what you said, but i disagree with the very last sentence. I'd say that lightning has the least defensive capability despite its ability to paralyse because it only paralyses what it touches.
 

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Think about it like this:
OFFENSE SPEED CONTROL DEFENSE
FIRE LIGHTNING WIND WATER EARTH

Fire - pure offense/destructive capability, but very little control

Lightning - incredible speed/power, but with little control and defense

Wind - one of the most versatile with good defense, offense, and speed. The easiest element to control.

Water - like wind, it is also very veratile with good offense, defense, speed and control, though has better defensive and offense capabilities since it is more solid than air.

Earth - The best in defense with decent speed, and control due to the abundance of it. Also very powerful because of earths solidity, but a bit lacking in mobility simply because it its limited as to how it can move.
Nice post but how would you rank them?
I agree with what you said, but i disagree with the very last sentence. I'd say that lightning has the least defensive capability despite its ability to paralyse because it only paralyses what it touches.
But lightning has uses such as chidori nagashi, preventing CQC fighters from coming close to you and lightning armour, allowing you to tank attack and also increase durability. What defensive uses does fire have other than amaterasu/enton?
 

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This is how I rank the elements using your format:

Best Offence
1. Fire
2. Lightning
3. Water
4. Earth
5. Wind

Best Defence
1. Earth
2. Water
3. Wind
4. Fire
5. Lightning

Other Uses/Overall Versatility
1. Water
2. Wind
3. Earth
4. Lightning
5. Fire

What defensive uses does fire have other than amaterasu/enton?
They say that a lot of the time that the best defense is a good offence. Because of its incredible power and destructive capabilities, it is much more likely to keep someone at bay because of the greater danger of being hurt by its effects.
 

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This is how I rank the elements using your format:

Best Offence
1. Fire The type of damage fire does is inferior to what lightning and wind are capable of doing. For example, Hidan is running at you, would a fireball be your best bet, lightning or wind? Definetely lightning, followed by wind. This is because lightning can paralyse an opponent as well has a high potential for decapitation. Wind is also good at that type of stuff and can also prevent the enemy from coming close to you. In other words, wind is a great offence and defence at the same time.
2. Lightning
3. Water
4. Earth
5. Wind Why is wind last when it can wreck havoc?

Best Defence
1. Earth
2. Water
3. Wind
4. Fire
5. Lightning Lightning has better defensive uses than fire. I already proved this.

Other Uses/Overall Versatility
1. Water
2. Wind
3. Earth
4. Lightning
5. Fire



They say that a lot of the time that the best defense is a good offence. Because of its incredible power and destructive capabilities, it is much more likely to keep someone at bay because of the greater danger of being hurt by its effects.
But lightning is a better offence than fire so your logic works against you. Lightning inflicts paralysis and has extremely high piercing abilities.
 

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But lightning is a better offence than fire so your logic works against you. Lightning inflicts paralysis and has extremely high piercing abilities.
Fire in general is capable of creating widespread damage, much moreso than lightning and wind. Lightning is good for doing damage to one specific area, but it cant affect a very large area like fire. Wind is different with its ability to affect a large area, but it takes much more energy to cause the same damage that fire can.
Think about this, which is more destructive a wildfire or a lighting strike?

How about a wildfire compared to a tornado?

Fire is capable of reducing anything in its path to ashes, and this is why fire is always reguarded as the most destructive and powerful in general.
 

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Fire in general is capable of creating widespread damage, much moreso than lightning and wind. Lightning is good for doing damage to one specific area, but it cant affect a very large area like fire. Wind is different with its ability to affect a large area, but it takes much more energy to cause the same damage that fire can.
Think about this, which is more destructive a wildfire or a lighting strike?

How about a wildfire compared to a tornado?

Fire is capable of reducing anything in its path to ashes, and this is why fire is always reguarded as the most destructive and powerful in general.
Maybe it can be the most destructive but its offensive uses in most cases will be inferior to that of wind or lightning IMO against shinobi with good speed/defence.

I guess Madara and Jiraiya's feats with fire make my comparisons void since those guys have huge AoE.
 

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Think about it like this:
OFFENSE SPEED CONTROL DEFENSE
FIRE LIGHTNING WIND WATER EARTH

Fire - pure offense/destructive capability, but very little control

Lightning - incredible speed/power, but with little control and defense

Wind - one of the most versatile with good defense, offense, and speed. The easiest element to control.

Water - like wind, it is also very veratile with good offense, defense, speed and control, though has better defensive and offense capabilities since it is more solid than air.

Earth - The best in defense with decent speed, and control due to the abundance of it. Also very powerful because of earths solidity, but a bit lacking in mobility simply because it its limited as to how it can move.
This guy has got it. + rep.

What OP seems to forget is that Shinobis use nature but it is also shinobis who invents jutsus and the limits are very few. Some people have been bitching about there being no wind/fire clones, but untill pain arc (I think at least) there were no lightning clones. There is no reason to why there couldn't be any clones of these natures nor has it been stated that there aren't. So that most likely means that it either hasn't been shown yet (or maybe it won't be shown.) or it hasn't been invented yet.

Each nature do have it's pros though.

Lightnings is the fastest, fire burns, wind is the sharpest etc. But in these aspects they are sort of balanced but I guess it could be up for debate. But OP is more like comparisson in known versatile jutsus of said nature.
 
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