Explaining why Sasuke stomps Bee

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I'm afraid not, your ignorance amuses me though.

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As you would say in an Itachi thread Amaterasu one shots lol(orochimaru that is)
 

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So I got negged for no good reason. So I've come back with a vengeance.

Sasuke's only chance here is MS Jutsu. Otherwise he gets annoy alter by base Bee

Amaterasu has a charge time, that's undeniable. Ita possible to force it out faster like Sasuke has do e sometimes but people have there facts wrong.

What's fast about Amaterasu is its Active speed. Not its start up speed. Just like ever Jutsu it requires chakra to be molded and formed.

Bee has also gotten faster at forming Bijudama, to the point where it's almost instant. It's start up won't be outsped by Amaterasu.

That's strike one. Strike two is that Sasuke doesn't have a counter to Base Bijudama, much less continuous Bijudama.

Now, taking into account the above, Sasuke can't stop Bijudama. If Bee by chance gets hit by Amaterasu he can revert back to V2 and be perfectly able to tank the flames.

And that's only a comparison of Bijudama and Amaterasu


Sasuke cannot beat Bee
Amaterasu speed > Biju dama speed. Once Bee gets hit by Amaterasu he's dead.
The manga says otherwise hahahahahahahhhhah

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Susano'o negates Bee's kenjutsu, and if he's that close he gets crushed like danzo.
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Amaterasu speed > Biju dama speed. Once Bee gets hit by Amaterasu he's dead.


Susano'o negates Bee's kenjutsu, and if he's that close he gets crushed like danzo.
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It's active speed is faster. Not its start up.

Bee can survive by reverting back to V2. Sasuke outright can't survive susano'O
 

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It's active speed is faster. Not its start up.

Bee can survive by reverting back to V2. Sasuke outright can't survive susano'O

Everything about Amaterasu is faster than a Biju dama. Him changing back too v2 still gets turn to ash. Why does Sasuke need to survive Susano'o?
 

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Amaterasu speed > Biju dama speed. Once Bee gets hit by Amaterasu he's dead.


Susano'o negates Bee's kenjutsu, and if he's that close he gets crushed like danzo.
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TBB in the face
 

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Everything about Amaterasu is faster than a Biju dama. Him changing back too v2 still gets turn to ash. Why does Sasuke need to survive Susano'o?

It's not, Bee is able to form its just as fast as he forms Amaterasu.

Quite overrating Amaterasu, it can't get through V2
 

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It's not, Bee is able to form its just as fast as he forms Amaterasu.

Quite overrating Amaterasu, it can't get through V2


Since when was tbb's as fast as amaterasu:sy:

This has to be a joke kakashi chidori cut thru 6 tails shrouds like it was nothing and v2 wont help him against amaterasu he not escaping sasuke line of vision you compared amaterasu speed to bee trans then using a tbb :rofl: sasuke hasit closed his eyes to use amaterasu yet


sasuke clearly didnt close his eyes not once and even if he did need to close his eyes bee still isnt turning into 8 tails in bombing him with tbbs get that out of your head sir.
 
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Jesus another Uchiha fanboy (not that I can say anything. I'm one myself)

Your practically ignoring every instance that doesn't support your argument.

Itachi has had to close his eye and charge practically every time he does it. Sasuke has to charge it more often than not. The manga does support what I'm saying and its fact.

I am only Sasuke fan. Also, don't throw this hallow argument my way if you don't have any link to back up your claims. Show me a single scan from anywhere in the manga where it says that Amaterasu has a charge time? Data-book page, a manga conversation, anything at all will do.

The eye-blinking is something people normally do, and it's shown to illustrate to the reader that Amaterasu is coming. I don't really see any fact behind this logic of yours. I have posted six links, together with common Amaterasu logic from the manga. Where is your proof?
 

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1.) Bee>>MS Sasuke. Unfortunately, EMS Sasuke will be>>>> Bee probably pretty soon.

2.)I can't remember what I was going to say. Wtf.
 

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I am only Sasuke fan. Also, don't throw this hallow argument my way if you don't have any link to back up your claims. Show me a single scan from anywhere in the manga where it says that Amaterasu has a charge time? Data-book page, a manga conversation, anything at all will do.

The eye-blinking is something people normally do, and it's shown to illustrate to the reader that Amaterasu is coming. I don't really see any fact behind this logic of yours. I have posted six links, together with common Amaterasu logic from the manga. Where is your proof?

Nagato felt Itachi charging and had time to yell shit at Naruto. It's common sense that you need to mold chakra to do a Jutsu. Your just a typical fanboy overhyping Amatersu.

I could pull the same argument and say Bijudama doesn't have a charge time because it's not stated.

It's not just a natural thing for them to close their eyes, gather chakra, then do the Jutsu. Amaterasu has to be prepared and has to be charged. We pull this from the feats. Your just making excuses.
 

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Nagato felt Itachi charging and had time to yell shit at Naruto. It's common sense that you need to mold chakra to do a Jutsu. Your just a typical fanboy overhyping Amatersu.

I could pull the same argument and say Bijudama doesn't have a charge time because it's not stated.

It's not just a natural thing for them to close their eyes, gather chakra, then do the Jutsu. Amaterasu has to be prepared and has to be charged. We pull this from the feats. Your just making excuses.

Calling me a fanboy puts so much weight on your argument. If you have a scan put it on here, otherwise, you have zero argument and these 'excuses' apply to you more than me. The charge time logic is pure rubbish, as Amaterasu is a doujutsu, and whilst it obviously uses chakra its effects solely depend upon where the eye is focused. Same is the case with Sharingan genjutsu, as the moment an individual looks into another individual's eye - provided they have the intent to cast a genjutsu - it's cast there and then. This has also been proven in cases where Sasuke used it on Deidara, and Danzo, and Itachi used his on Orochimau and Deidara, and I am talking about the 3T sharingan here.

Similarly, If the user intends to use Amaterasu it's cast there and then as I proved with several scans. If that was the case, then the manga would have alluded it it several hundred pages ago when this doujutsu was originally introduced. The manga contrary to your logic has used the term 'instant' with this doujutsu. No jutsu is instant, if it's charged. Your lines on closing eyes to gather chakra are made up at best. Show me manga proof, otherwise don't drag this on as you have no argument to begin with.
 

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Current Sasuke vs Bee? Then Sasuke will beat him pretty easily. Amateratsu is just too strong now in Sasuke's hands. There are many ways he can deliver it too. That and Susanoo just puts him above Bee. Bee issue here is that he will have to go into his 8tailed mode and that only makes him a bigger target. TBB from what I have seen won't do anything to Sasuke at least if hes using his final Susanoo.
 

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Calling me a fanboy puts so much weight on your argument. If you have a scan put it on here, otherwise, you have zero argument and these 'excuses' apply to you more than me. The charge time logic is pure rubbish, as Amaterasu is a doujutsu, and whilst it obviously uses chakra its effects solely depend upon where the eye is focused. Same is the case with Sharingan genjutsu, as the moment an individual looks into another individual's eye - provided they have the intent to cast a genjutsu - it's cast there and then. This has also been proven in cases where Sasuke used it on Deidara, and Danzo, and Itachi used his on Orochimau and Deidara, and I am talking about the 3T sharingan here.

Similarly, If the user intends to use Amaterasu it's cast there and then as I proved with several scans. If that was the case, then the manga would have alluded it it several hundred pages ago when this doujutsu was originally introduced. The manga contrary to your logic has used the term 'instant' with this doujutsu. No jutsu is instant, if it's charged. Your lines on closing eyes to gather chakra are made up at best. Show me manga proof, otherwise don't drag this on as you have no argument to begin with.

Again, your just ignoring facts and posting your opinion.

Nagato proved there was a charge. The fact they have to close their eyes and prepare the Jutsu is a charge. You literally don't know what your talking about.

Instant was refering to its active speed, not the start up. A who isn't a sensor and lacks the ability to Severn chakra dodged it at point blank range where it's at it's fastest. Nagato sensed it and had time to yell entire statements. Itaxhis closes his eyes and charges every single time and your calling it made up.

This debate really is over. I won't continue to argue with some that has less sense than the screen he's staring at.

Amaterasu isn't instant and Sasuke can't beat bee. End of story.
 

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^ Facts? Where are your facts? I have posted six links, and I can post Sharingan genjutsu links here as well to complete disprove this logic of yours. What have you posted? Where are the manga pages that depict Amaterasu's charge in any dialogue form?

I don't know what I am talking about? Says the guy that is making up stuff one after another. Refuses to give links, and calls me a fanboy. Doesn't bring out any databook page or a scan illustrating a dialogue that exemplifies his charge comment but I am going around in circles. Hilarious. Got any more jokes?
 

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^ Facts? Where are your facts? I have posted six links, and I can post Sharingan genjutsu links here as well to complete disprove this logic of yours. What have you posted? Where are the manga pages that depict Amaterasu's charge in any dialogue form?

I don't know what I am talking about? Says the guy that is making up stuff one after another. Refuses to give links, and calls me a fanboy. Doesn't bring out any databook page or a scan illustrating a dialogue that exemplifies his charge comment but I am going around in circles. Hilarious. Got any more jokes?

To bad were not talking about Sharingan Genjutsu. Were talking about Amaterasu.

Now quit crying about scans. I already told told you I couldn't because I'm on an IPOD.
I'll get in a computer tommorow to shut you up, cuz you too ****ing blind to be able something that clearly illustrated in the manga.
 
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^ Don't bother yourself.
 
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^ Don't bother yourself.

He's right though. Amaterasu clearly has a small charge. I would provide links but DA seems like he's on it.

Trust me, DA has been around for a Long time and debated on many forums. A few of them far more intellectual than this one. He knows what he's talking about when comes to just about anything Naruto

Not trying to sound like I'm wankin him though
 

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^ Forget him, as I highly doubt he's as intellectual as you are making him out to be. Intellectualism =/= Naruto Debates. Post a link where it's specifically said that Amaterasu has charge time. I am willing to eat my words completely then.
 
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