Explaining why Sasuke stomps Bee

[Bogard]

It's the way around. You should have explained how Bee stomps Sasuke

 

[Solo]

Not only that... Bee took a Juubi bomb with his Tailed Beast Bomb head on..

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Bee has had several tentacles cut off. Overall, Bee has destructive power to match Sasuke and durability that Sasuke lacks. Which he makes up for in Susano'o, but he doesn't have Perfect Susano'o... yet.

 

[Solo]

Champ used this example:

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The pain caused by Amaterasu would deter Hachibi from creating TBBs, Bijuudama take time to charge as well.

Also, Sasuke actually technically has "Perfect Susanoo"

It doesn't take Bee no time to charge a Bijuu bomb.

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In his Tail Beast Cloak form, he's actually fast enough to dodge Amaterasu.

 

[Champ]

I don't think Susano'o or Amaterasu will stop this..

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Perfect Susano'o... maybe?

I don't see Bee getting the opportunity to do that. Amaterasu speed is much faster than a Biju dama

Not only that... Bee took a Juubi bomb with his Tailed Beast Bomb head on..

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Bee has had several tentacles cut off. Overall, Bee has destructive power to match Sasuke and durability that Sasuke lacks. Which he makes up for in Susano'o, but he doesn't have Perfect Susano'o... yet.

Amaterasu will turn be to Ash

It doesn't take Bee no time to charge a Bijuu bomb.

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In his Tail Beast Cloak form, he's actually fast enough to dodge Amaterasu.

Where did you get he's fast enough to dodge Amaterasu from?

 

[Fecal Matter]

It doesn't take Bee no time to charge a Bijuu bomb.

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In his Tail Beast Cloak form, he's actually fast enough to dodge Amaterasu.

V1 and V2 are no where near A or Naruto's speed. Well done on stating bs that hasn't been shown.

 

[captainEO]

It doesn't take Bee no time to charge a Bijuu bomb.

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In his Tail Beast Cloak form, he's actually fast enough to dodge Amaterasu.

Well, they've fought each other before. So...

Sasuke won't try Kenjutsu again that gets him nowhere. His Sharingan can't track Bee's blades
Bee would be wary to switch to his "full transformation" state. 1 hit/glance and it's over. No TBBs. There's no way Bee would be daft enough to enter this state unless he can temporarily stun Sasuke.

Which means this will be Sasuke w Susanoo vs Bee using partially transformed states.

Samehada is out because it can't take heat hence directly striking Sasuke's Susanoo would be a no-go. Plus Amaterasu spreads rapidly meaning as soon as Samehada is hit, it will be practically engulfed.

So...

Sasuke w Susanoo vs Bee w partial transformations

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It's Sasuke's Amaterasu, Enton, genjutsu and physical Susanoo attacks vs Bee and his attempts to penetrate Susanoo using his cloak.

Bee relies on linear attacks, which is why Sasuke was easily able to evade his attacks, and cast genjutsu on him.
His cloak and its techniques - lariat etc. all work using close combat, this is in Sasuke's advantage.
Bee's attacks:

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Which makes this extremely easy:

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Bee falls to Amaterasu.

 

[Solo]

V1 and V2 are no where near A or Naruto's speed. Well done on stating bs that hasn't been shown.

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Bro Sage Mode(Kabuto) speed is enough to dodge Amaterasu alone. Bee is NOT slow. Where are we getting this from?

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Why would Naruto tell Bee to watch out for Amaterasu if he couldn't dodge it? Wouldn't that be pretty pointless if it was undodgeable?

 

[Solo]

Bee falls to Amaterasu.

Amaterasu burns very slow.

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Trying to debate with Sasuke's EMS Susano'o is pretty pointless. We don't know the ins and outs of it. Anything said against it is pure speculation.

Again, He only tested his Susano'o against Zetsu. We're trying to compare what he did to a Zetsu to what he would do to Killer Bee.


I don't like Bee, but I still believe if he was to fight current Sasuke he give a fight.

 

[Champ]

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Bro Sage Mode(Kabuto) speed is enough to dodge Amaterasu alone. Bee is NOT slow. Where are we getting this from?

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Why would Naruto tell Bee to watch out for Amaterasu if he couldn't dodge it? Wouldn't that be pretty pointless if it was undodgeable?

First scan shows both the brothers doin Lariat. Second scan shows A infront of Naruto about to punch him, A wasn't moving at full speed. Kabuto can't dodge Amaterasu.

 

[NinjutsuSeeker]

so many sasuke **** riders.last time I checked, bee tore sasuke up, and he only lived because of his team, so until I see otherwise, bee own sasuke

 

[Solo]

First scan shows both the brothers doin Lariat. Second scan shows A infront of Naruto about to punch him, A wasn't moving at full speed. Kabuto can't dodge Amaterasu.

Maybe Amaterasu can't dodge Kabuto?

 

[Thundercles]

While I agree that EMS would make him last longer, Bee was only toying with Sasuke in the original fight. Sasuke was not. But hey, Sasuke, like Naruto, has plot shield.

 

[Chatte]

Why is it that hard to post it in the right section? :|
Moved to VS.

 

[captainEO]

Amaterasu burns very slow.

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Trying to debate with Sasuke's EMS Susano'o is pretty pointless. We don't know the ins and outs of it. Anything said against it is pure speculation.

Again, He only tested his Susano'o against Zetsu. We're trying to compare what he did to a Zetsu to what he would do to Killer Bee.


I don't like Bee, but I still believe if he was to fight current Sasuke he give a fight.

It may burn slowly but it spreads very quickly and burns for 7 days. Not only that but it's painful, and limits movement.

Anyway in this case:

1. 
   It was Amaterasu used defensively Meaning Sasuke didn't even direct it towards vital areas - head, torso, legs (to limit movement)
2. A is considerably faster than Bee when he uses lightning cloak. Proof - his speed exceeded that of Sasuke's ocular powers whereas Sasuke could track Bee fine even dodging his attacks.
3. A lost his arm rendering it useless. Meaning he'd be limited to use of his right/left arm only which considerably weakens his battle offense - no more Liger Bomb in A's case.
4. Consider the pain caused by Amaterasu, and how it could affect one's focus/strength in battle. A in this case could bear it ONLY on his arm, however, if it had materialized around his head or other sensitive areas, the pain would have likely been too severe. Regardless, it's even uncertain that Bee could bear it on his arm(s).
5. Amaterasu spreads meaning that it would have eventually engulfed A completely [
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   Avoiding this requires amputation which would mean exsanguination.
6. Sasuke cannot only engulf his Susanoo itself but the immediate area surrounding him. Not to mention his Amaterasu blade, 1 hit and you're engulfed regardless of how quickly it burns.

And we know a lot about Sasuke's Susanoo:

1. It withstood a joint attack from a Kage and 3 Jounin
2. In its early form it withstood a direct attack from A in his most powerful state.

I used the Zetsu comparison because:
1. Zetsu relied on close combat taijutsu in that instant, which is what Bee uses constantly (it's in the examples I provided earlier).
2. I was depicting his proficiency with Amaterasu and how quickly + easily he can deploy it in various directions. Keeping in mind that Sasuke can track Bee's movements.

Bee is one of my favourites character I don't think he's weak but Sasuke's surpassed him. Plot required it.

 

[DemonicAvenger]

Bijudama Trashes Sauce

Sasuke can't beat Bee

 

[TheTailedSage]

C'mon man isn't it obvious??The guy's got EMS.He outmatches 90% of the shinobi in NV.How do you expect bee to win against someone like him?? :shrug:

That right there is newbie logic, he could tank maybe 80%, just because he has ems doesne him immune to most of NV jutsu. People make it seem as if sasukes susano'o can tank multiple bijudama... No the chances. Of him blocking that with susano'o are micro, yes its a ultimate defence but its not invincible,if kirin can destroy itachis susano'o (ill provide scan if necessary) then a bijudama has a high if not gauranteed chance of destroying susano'o not to mention be lash out multiple bijudama

If sasuke does win its high dificulty

 

[DemonicAvenger]

That right there is newbie logic, he could tank maybe 80%, just because he has ems doesne him immune to most of NV jutsu. People make it seem as if sasukes susano'o can tank multiple bijudama... No the chances. Of him blocking that with susano'o are micro, yes its a ultimate defence but its not invincible,if kirin can destroy itachis susano'o (ill provide scan if necessary) then a bijudama has a high if not gauranteed chance of destroying susano'o not to mention be lash out multiple bijudama

If sasuke does win its high dificulty

Kirin went through Yata Mirror and Susano'O IMO

Perfect Susano'O is the only level of Susano'O that can tank Bijudama, and only the regular sphere one. Not Continous (and definately not Flash or Ultimate)

 

[adeshina365]

Bee needs Bijuu dama to get past Susanoo, and to do that he needs to fully transform into the Hachibi where he becomes a sitting duck for Amaterasu.

Sasuke wins, but Bee won't roll over for him, so mid difficulty.

Bijudama Trashes Sauce

Sasuke can't beat Bee

By transforming into the Hachibi he becomes a huge target for Amaterasu.

 

[TheTailedSage]

Kirin went through Yata Mirror and Susano'O IMO

Perfect Susano'O is the only level of Susano'O that can tank Bijudama, and only the regular sphere one. Not Continous (and definately not Flash or Ultimate)

That is up for debate for the bijudama as for the kirin thing a agree

 

[Izuna Kakashi Senju]

Bee can transform into Hachibi very quickly

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. But OT it wouldn't be as easy as the original post says it would, Sasuke would win mid-high diff.