Explaining why Sasuke stomps Bee

[KidGamer65]

Lol @ the people who brought up Sasuke's fight against Bee. He had no Susanoo, got Amaterasu at the end, his injuries hadn't healed yet and he was an MS noob.

Bee's only chance is a fully charged Bijuu Dama, which he will never get to fire off when Sasuke can counter with Amaterasu. Nothing else he has can get past Susanoo, especially when Itachi's second weakest Susanoo (Without Yata Mirror) took on the brunt of Kirin with only some damage to Itachi and that destroyed a good amount of that mountain. Bijuu Dama may vaporize Mountains, but the difference between an EMS Final Susanoo and a V2 MS Susanoo is vast. It isn't a stretch to say Susanoo will shatter due to one Bijuu Dama.

Any other mode than Full Bijuu will get Bee killed but Full Bijuu will lead him to be hit with Amaterasu. Bee can't win.

Sasuke wins mid diff. (He definitely doesn't stomp)

 

[Brooks]

EMS Sasuke beats Bee with Mid diff, but i wouldn't say he stomps him.

All of Sasuke Jutsus are either too fast for Bee to even dodge and most of he's moves are one-shot type of Jutsus....i almost feel sorry for the noobs comparing half dead inexperince MS Sasuke with no any form of Susanoo and Blaze Release to a hax EMS Sasuke:rofl:

Bee has no way of dodging Amaterasu or Susanoo arrow...if goes all 8 tail full form then it's Amaterasu to one-shot him, but if he goes V2 then Susanoo Trashes him completely.

 

[shelke]

I would like to clear one thing out of the way here concerning this 'slow burning of Amaterasu', and for that I will paste from another thread:

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Flames converge at the exact point the eye is focused. The images -concerning gaara and A - you are talking about is the 'defensive usage of Enton' not an 'offensive one'. With A, he touched enton coated on the ribs, and Sasuke simply threw a few orbs at Gaara to guard himself. Here the eye was focused on absolutely nothing to burn it to a crisp but done so to guard self. Two different usages and hence different effects. This should be clear enough to anyone at this point.

Here is a better explanation:

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- Black Flames will burn on the point wherever the eye is focused.
1: Eye Focus:

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Flame Appearance:

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and the target getting destroyed instantly.

2: Eye Focus:

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Flame Appearance:

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The flames almost instantly spread:

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As you can see here, the flames were used as a mode of offense. Magatama here has destroyed all Zetsus it touched as it's used as an offense, albeit the eye is not focused on the target:

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This should be blatantly obvious at this point that Amaterasu behaves differently in form of of a defense enton.

Second is the Continuous BD. In all instances a BD has displayed destructive power in conjunction with the time for which it was charged. The longer the charge, the larger the BD, and great its destruction. Continuous BD have shown no particular destructive feats, hence to use them in an argument is nothing but made up opinion at best. If there is a manga page to show their destruction, I would love to see it. CS would tank these no problem at all, as they lack the destructive feature of charged BDs. I mean, they were charged for a reason, and charged BDs appear to be quite sluggish:

Even a medium charged TBB is freaking sluggish:

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- See the chakra gathering in its mouth? Not only was Minato able to deliver a dialogue, but he formed five seals as well.

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- Chakra gathering, and Mintao had enough time to summon the toad to stop it:

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. If this isn't sluggish, then I don't know what is :

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and the TBB is still charging in its mouth.

This window is too freaking big for Sasuke's instant attacks. Any TBB larger than this would spell nothing but death for Naruto.

People are forgetting that Bee only landed a single fatal hit on Sasuke when he blew his organs out, whilst the stabs were not fatal according to Bee himself:

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. He was also no where near 100%:

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. Whilst Sasuke had a clear window to wipe Bee out here:

Sasuke putting Bee under Genjutsu with MS:

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. Bee succumbs to Sasuke’s Tsukiyomi:

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- He was under Genjutsu for enough time for Sasuke to sigh out and turn around. This window was enough to take out Bee's head as he was completely vulnerable. Second was Hashibi catching fire, so people need to look at this from both perspectives.

Bee has nothing on his arsenal to get past CS, and the second he turns into Hachibi, the situation will be reapeated again. This time, Sasuke has durability on his side. And once he has transformed, he cannot transform back if he decides to use Kawarami, as that will consume all of his chakra and he will be a sitting duck whilst it repleshes. He will be finished on both accounts. EMS Sasuke takes

 

[SadSasuke]

The manga proves otherwise.

The manga already proved this. The first fight is very different from what he is now. Sasuke wins.

 

[jiraiya lives]

Everyone knows that Sasuke wasn't ready or it was plot so yeah.

he wasn't ready? he had a whole team with him, if anyone wasn't ready it was bee since they came from nowhere to attack him..
and the only reason sasuke survived was because of plot

 

[DemonicAvenger]

Everyone is forgetting that Amaterasu has a charge time. The user always closes their eye and has to gather Chakra.

I'll state again. Sasuke can't beat Bee

 

[KidGamer65]

Everyone is forgetting that Amaterasu has a charge time. The user always closes their eye and has to gather Chakra.

I'll state again. Sasuke can't beat Bee

There didn't seem to be a charge time over here.

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[DemonicAvenger]

There didn't seem to be a charge time over here.

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In that same fight Sasuke had to charge it. Either way, Bijudama's start up is as fast as Amaterasu in current fights anyway

BTW you may have just changed my mind on Uchiha bro's vs 5 Kages. That team Amaterasu might tip the scales

 

[KidGamer65]

In that same fight Sasuke had to charge it. Either way, Bijudama's start up is as fast as Amaterasu in current fights anyway

Oh, never mind then.

 

[DemonicAvenger]

Oh, never mind then.

It's all probably a chakra control thing. The charge could be just him doing it in a chakra efficient way. Or he can force it out with more chakra out.

Just a theory

 

[shelke]

^ I am going to quote another one of my posts here:

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Flames converge at the exact point the eye is focused.

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- Black Flames will burn on the point wherever the eye is focused.

1: Eye Focus:

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Flame Appearance:

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2: Eye Focus:

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Flame Appearance:

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Is that better? Why are you throwing ‘eye-focus’ point out of the window? The only reason the flame hit the Samurai, is because it went beyond the point-of-focus. As Amatersau works on line of sight, then the Flame automatically hit the next target in Sasuke’s field of vision.

3: Eye Focus:

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Flame Appearance:

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Flame hitting the Target in Sasuke’s line of sight:

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(Shee: It ignites wherever he is looking at) as Amaterasu goes wherever the eye goes:

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There is no charge happening at any of these points. Nor does the manga support your logic. No where in the manga is it implied or alluded to that the eye needs prep time for Amaterasu. Unless you don't have anything with you to support this, this isn't manga fact.

 

[DemonicAvenger]

^ I am going to quote another one of my posts here:



There is no charge happening at any of these points. Nor does the manga support your logic. No where in the manga is it implied or alluded to that the eye needs prep time for Amaterasu. Unless you don't have anything with you to support this, this isn't manga fact.

Jesus another Uchiha fanboy (not that I can say anything. I'm one myself)

Your practically ignoring every instance that doesn't support your argument.

Itachi has had to close his eye and charge practically every time he does it. Sasuke has to charge it more often than not. The manga does support what I'm saying and its fact.

 

[Naruto9001]

I dont get it where in the manga does it say Sasuke was still injured from his fight with Itachi? And even if he was he should have healed from all of his injuries when he bit Karin.

 

[Penguin]

Bee vs Sasue isn't really fair...Amataseru spammer. >.>

 

[DemonicAvenger]

Bee vs Sasue isn't really fair...Amataseru spammer. >.>

So what? Bijudama spamm makes deidara jelly

 

[Kages]

Stomps Bee? Lol no

 

[BigBlade Master]

I don't read but by reading the title , I agree that Sasuke > Killer Bee

 

[DemonicAvenger]

So I got negged for no good reason. So I've come back with a vengeance.

Sasuke's only chance here is MS Jutsu. Otherwise he gets annoy alter by base Bee

Amaterasu has a charge time, that's undeniable. Ita possible to force it out faster like Sasuke has do e sometimes but people have there facts wrong.

What's fast about Amaterasu is its Active speed. Not its start up speed. Just like ever Jutsu it requires chakra to be molded and formed.

Bee has also gotten faster at forming Bijudama, to the point where it's almost instant. It's start up won't be outsped by Amaterasu.

That's strike one. Strike two is that Sasuke doesn't have a counter to Base Bijudama, much less continuous Bijudama.

Now, taking into account the above, Sasuke can't stop Bijudama. If Bee by chance gets hit by Amaterasu he can revert back to V2 and be perfectly able to tank the flames.

And that's only a comparison of Bijudama and Amaterasu


Sasuke cannot beat Bee

 

[Orosanagi]

The manga says otherwise hahahahahahahhhhah

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[slaton02]

The manga says otherwise hahahahahahahhhhah

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Bee would beat Sasuke but Sasuke> Orochimaru hahahaha