Itachi is overrating and never solo'd a kage level ninja

[King Of Kings]

No Owarij, this guy actually thinks Itachi is below Kage level.

i NEVER said that

 

[sagemode jinchuuriki]

just because kakashi was a anbu member doesnt make him kage level, kakashi wasnt a kage level ninja when he fought itachi in part 1, kakashi didnt even have kumai back then

So your basically say that because he did not have the kami he wasn't kage level that just degrading to Kakashi. There was a reason why people like Jiraiyi and the third hokage trusted him with Sasuke and Naruto. If he wasn't Kage level or at least that good then please show me proof where it clearly says he is not a kage level shinobi.
Itachi beat Kakashi in part one therefor unless you have proof he beat someone of a kage level

 

[King Of Kings]

No Owarij, this guy actually thinks Itachi is below Kage level.



The only change in powers that Deidara got after fighting Itachi was that he trained his eyes to resist genjutsu. Which isn't much at all.

deidara changed alot and if i remember correctly, deidara was more intelligent after fighting itachi and he created c4 after fight itachi so he could blow himself up

 

[King Of Kings]

So your basically say that because he did not have the kami he wasn't kage level that just degrading to Kakashi. There was a reason why people like Jiraiyi and the third hokage trusted him with Sasuke and Naruto. If he wasn't Kage level or at least that good then please show me proof where it clearly says he is not a kage level shinobi.
Itachi beat Kakashi in part one therefor unless you have proof he beat someone of a kage level

now you're putting words in my mouth

i said DIDNT EVEN HAVE kamui back then

kakashi was a average or high jonin in part 1

 

[copilot1307]

Regardless that Deidara wasn't Kage level at the time, he was still next in line to be, so we can assume he was close to Kage level already(specially accounting for Oonokis age). He just have been powerful if Akatsuki took in interest.

And you ignored my prior input on the Orichimaru fight. There is more evidence that he was at full power, not weakened.(still Kage level w/o arms anyway).

And he wasnt weakened because he emerged from a curse mark. Orochimaru was completely absorbed by sasuke, not a fragment of chakra like Anko. So i think it's fair to assume Itachi did solo, unless you've anything to add

 

[sagemode jinchuuriki]

now you're putting words in my mouth

i said DIDNT EVEN HAVE kamui back then

kakashi was a average or high jonin in part 1

Look I was not putting words in your mouth it just sounded like you were saying Kakashi wasn't a kage level shinobi until he got the kami. Besides Please show me somewhere in the manga or in a databook or kishi's own words that Kakashi got to Kage level in part 2.

 

[Rainbow Dash]

now you're putting words in my mouth

Ironically, you have a Gluttony avatar.

 

[blazekev90]

@ King of Kings, don't even bother with these comments, half on them don't even know the differences themselves to what they speak of.

 

[cmontesi]

Itachi is not overrated. He is pretty smart, talented, has unique abilities and even after dead, he still kept fighting(not talking about edo but the thing the eye he gave naruto foreseeing a future to stop sasuke).

 

[King Of Kings]

Regardless that Deidara wasn't Kage level at the time, he was still next in line to be, so we can assume he was close to Kage level already(specially accounting for Oonokis age). He just have been powerful if Akatsuki took in interest.

And you ignored my prior input on the Orichimaru fight. There is more evidence that he was at full power, not weakened.(still Kage level w/o arms anyway).

And he wasnt weakened because he emerged from a curse mark. Orochimaru was completely absorbed by sasuke, not a fragment of chakra like Anko. So i think it's fair to assume Itachi did solo, unless you've anything to add

no, oro was weakened, just like recently when oro returned, he had to take kabuto's power

deidara wasnt kage when itachi beat him, it doesnt matter how powerful deidara got later

Look I was not putting words in your mouth it just sounded like you were saying Kakashi wasn't a kage level shinobi until he got the kami. Besides Please show me somewhere in the manga or in a databook or kishi's own words that Kakashi got to Kage level in part 2.

give me a link that stated kakashi is kage level in part 1

i can CLAIM kakashi isnt kage level in part 1, why? because he never proved he was kage level until shippuden, which isnt part1 when itachi beat him

 

[sagemode jinchuuriki]

give me a link that stated kakashi is kage level in part 1

i can CLAIM kakashi isnt kage level in part 1, why? because he never proved he was kage level until shippuden, which isnt part1 when itachi beat him

Well to be fair If we argue about this with only the manga you win but I did ask for other type of proofs

 

[King Of Kings]

Ironically, you have a Gluttony avatar.

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@ King of Kings, don't even bother with these comments, half on them don't even know the differences themselves to what they speak of.

their just mad because im right about itachi

i never said itachi wasnt kage and i know itachi CAN solo some kage people, but he never did it in the manga, fact is fact...i honestly dont know why this is so hard to accept lol itachi is still strong....i guess you cant tell fanboys anything nowadays

 

[Draphsin]

Oro is a kage level ninja

 

[King Of Kings]

Oro is a kage level ninja

itachi won but he didnt solo him

the first time oro wasnt fighting him, he just want his body and itachi attacked him, how can you solo someone that isnt attacking you to kill you???

the second time oro was weakened when he came from sasuke's body and he had no arms

 

[Draphsin]

itachi won but he didnt solo him

the first time oro wasnt fighting him, he just want his body and itachi attacked him, how can you solo someone that isnt attacking you to kill you???

the second time oro was weakened when he came from sasuke's body and he had no arms

Oro was confident in his own abilities, he thought he could capture Itachi. Therefore he left himself open and got solo'd, its not my fault that oro didnt take precautions but he lost :shrug:

Theres no proof that oro was weakened, totsuka solo'd him because oro didnt even know he had it. Once again underestimating itachi's abilities which lead to his defeat

 

[copilot1307]

I think you didn't quite read what i said. Oro was only weakened after emerging from anko because the curse mark carried a fraction of his chakra. Sasuke on the other hand, absorbed ALL of Orochimaru. So he wasn't weakened. He wouldn't have been able to be in his strongest form if he was weakened.

As for Deidara, when he fought Itachi, we can assume was Kage level(or at least very close) since Oonoki acknowledged him as a successor.

See my points?

 

[King Of Kings]

Oro was confident in his own abilities, he thought he could capture Itachi. Therefore he left himself open and got solo'd, its not my fault that oro didnt take precautions but he lost :shrug:

Theres no proof that oro was weakened, totsuka solo'd him because oro didnt even know he had it. Once again underestimating itachi's abilities which lead to his defeat

itgachi did win but he didnt solo

just because oro was confident doesnt mean he was healthy

I think you didn't quite read what i said. Oro was only weakened after emerging from anko because the curse mark carried a fraction of his chakra. Sasuke on the other hand, absorbed ALL of Orochimaru. So he wasn't weakened. He wouldn't have been able to be in his strongest form if he was weakened.

As for Deidara, when he fought Itachi, we can assume was Kage level(or at least very close) since Oonoki acknowledged him as a successor.

See my points?

that does prove deidara was kage level, it just means he was successful

going by your logic, oro still wasnt at full power because his chakra is always scatter around inside all his curse seals on people like anko

its not about chakra, its about oro's condition

 

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[FleeOnSight]

Itachi is trash.

 

[Draphsin]

itgachi did win but he didnt solo

just because oro was confident doesnt mean he was healthy

When you solo somebody you defeat them without any help....Did itachi have some help that i dont know about...?

But he was confident despite not being healthy. He thought he could capture itachi in his present condition, and that foolish mistake caused him to get genjutsu'd, thus he got solo'd....Totsuka solo'd him too because oro didnt even know that itachi had it, which was another grave underestimation of itachi's abilities/skill.