Kishi made an error with the Rinnegan

[Ninja Hidden in the Leafs]

Because he would not waste his life to revive him when who was so persistent in the realization of Akatsuki's goal, his goal takes precedence over reviving a long dead comrade. He only had a deathbed conversion afterall.

i was reading manga 614 and on page 7 it says obito needs to "throw his life away". this backs up most of what you say, but the part where the dead souls staying longer makes it more difficult, I dont think a couple of hours would make a difference, but anyway, thanks for your theory the other thing about yahiko though, if it takes obito's life to revive madara, do you think it might have been possible to still revive yahiko.

 

[Ninja Hidden in the Leafs]

Seems legit

your not even giving an opinion, your just agreeing to what he says lol

 

[Draphsin]

your not even giving an opinion, your just agreeing to what he says lol

So what, he answered your question better than i could. Why do i have to provide anything more?

 

[Ninja Hidden in the Leafs]

So what, he answered your question better than i could. Why do i have to provide anything more?

so than what's the point of you posting anything if you don't have a different opinion

 

[TaBaYo]

The answer is because the chakra needed to revive someone with Rinne Tensei is directly proportional to the duration of the person's death, now, given that there are numerous villagers who died, the chakra demand would not have been taxing as reviving dead villagers from long ago, Madara has been dead for decades, hence the chakra needed to use RT on him would be fatal to the caster.

if it depend on the chakra, then why dont Obito used it to ressurect Rin since this whole war started because Rin died, and then leave Madara good for dead.

 

[Ninja Hidden in the Leafs]

if it depend on the chakra, then why dont Obito used it to ressurect Rin since this whole war started because Rin died, and then leave Madara good for dead.

That's actually a really good point.

 

[CurseSealofEarth]

maybe, but we'll never know unless Kishi fills us in lol

thanks

I just joined recently so I haven't checked the other threads but thanks for the info

but if thats true why not wait until Nagato had regained chakra so he didn't die. Thanks

Ha yep

I didn't know someone had made a thread like this one lol

maybe, but why didn't he revive Jiraiya, granted he was at the bottom of the ocean, but why than say he "had enough time to revive the one's he had killed" at all, and why not just wait until his chakra reserves came back so he could perform it without having to die

So I was answering a question about the Rinnegan and I just realized that Madara in the manga asked Tobi "why wasn't I summoned back with the Rinne Tensei". Didn't Nagato say that there was "still time" to revive the one's he had killed in the village? So if Nagato only had enough time to revive the one's he killed in the village and not being able to revive anyone outside that amount of time, how could obito revive madara. Do different people with the rinnegan have different limitations or what. Let me know what you think.

Ok see how I just did that^ There's a little button next to reply with quote so you aren't multiple ring and breaking the rules. For your benefit

 

[godzillard]

So I was answering a question about the Rinnegan and I just realized that Madara in the manga asked Tobi "why wasn't I summoned back with the Rinne Tensei". Didn't Nagato say that there was "still time" to revive the one's he had killed in the village? So if Nagato only had enough time to revive the one's he killed in the village and not being able to revive anyone outside that amount of time, how could obito revive madara. Do different people with the rinnegan have different limitations or what. Let me know what you think.

Nagato meant "there was still time left until he died for wearing his body out to revive anyone with Rinne Tensei"
the Time was about how much time does he have before he died like Kimimaro/Itachi..
He(Nagato)was dying from overusing the Rinnegan's abilities. Not for Rinne Tensei
In other words: Time Limit was on his LIFE not on Rinne Tensei

 

[Meekz89]

That's not the only mistake, when Nagato was doing Rinne Tensei, Konan stated that he didn't have enough chakra to do that jutsu and survive it. So Konan implied that the jutsu can be used and the user does not have to die. Now he's saying Obito has to sacrifice his life in order to perform the jutsu.

 

[Ninja Hidden in the Leafs]

Ok see how I just did that^ There's a little button next to reply with quote so you aren't multiple ring and breaking the rules. For your benefit

thanks man, appreciate it

Nagato meant "there was still time left until he died for wearing his body out to revive anyone with Rinne Tensei"
the Time was about how much time does he have before he died like Kimimaro/Itachi..
He(Nagato)was dying from overusing the Rinnegan's abilities. Not for Rinne Tensei
In other words: Time Limit was on his LIFE not on Rinne Tensei

I dont think thats right, I think it was because he used Rinne Tensei than died because he used it with the little chakra he had left

That's not the only mistake, when Nagato was doing Rinne Tensei, Konan stated that he didn't have enough chakra to do that jutsu and survive it. So Konan implied that the jutsu can be used and the user does not have to die. Now he's saying Obito has to sacrifice his life in order to perform the jutsu.

Thanks for that info, I forgot Konan said that

 

[Draphsin]

so than what's the point of you posting anything if you don't have a different opinion

Just letting you know that he's got the same opinion as me

 

[Ninja Hidden in the Leafs]

Just letting you know that he's got the same opinion as me

gotcha

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

i was reading manga 614 and on page 7 it says obito needs to "throw his life away". this backs up most of what you say, but the part where the dead souls staying longer makes it more difficult, I dont think a couple of hours would make a difference, but anyway, thanks for your theory the other thing about yahiko though, if it takes obito's life to revive madara, do you think it might have been possible to still revive yahiko.

Yes, but at the cost of Nagato's life since he's been dead for a long time.

 

[Ninja Hidden in the Leafs]

Yes, but at the cost of Nagato's life since he's been dead for a long time.

but do you think, since it would take obito's life to revive madara who's been dead longer, nagato would survive or do you think he'd die to

 

[Kurama999]

Kishi did not made any error, as he is the story teller.
Only WE, are taking assumption of this Naruto.
In order to understand what Kishi is telling the story, we also need to understand the way he write. Of which many story and/or fiction writer do, certain issue or matter was not told until the it need to be.


"Edo Tensei" vs "Rinne Tensei"

Firstly: These are 2 entirely different meaning of jutsu
"Rinne Tensei" was created by the SO6P as he had it on both eyes.
"Edo Tensei" was created by 2nd Hokage Tobirama. Please take note that this jutsu was finally reveal in the latest chapter where Orochimaru told Tobirama that his jutsu do kill many people.

Second: Rinne Tensei can revived the person and that person's body must be preserve. That could be how Madara had to link.
As for Nagato chakra, any nin just need some time to recover. As Nagato was up to his limit, he revived the Leaf Village people back to Normal Life and he die. Whereas, Tsunade went into coma. Both of their chakra had reached their own limit.

Third: Edo Tensei was revived DEAD person. Think. When a person die, for months and years, their body are just bones.
Now, go back to the current chapter. Orochimaru used 4 bodies, which is zetsu, to become the 4 Hokage. Likewise, whose bodies were Kabuto were using.
This could mean that Kabuto just need any living bodies, and using the soul of the actual person, to make them alive. The bodies were emptiness, as they cannot die. If killed, they re-fix (just like Hidan).
Did you notice that the face of Madara and those 'dead' nin were the same - not smooth. Madara soul...That's why Madara need Obito to be the Jinchuriki of Ten Tails. Like those 6 'dead' Jinchuriki, they are control by Obito....

Fourth: ......
.....to be continue........Thanks for reading..................

 

[swagking]

Nagato said "There's still time" because he was dying, but he had enough time left alive to use the jutsu.

Either that, or Madara and Obito weren't aware of the time limit.

I agree

 

[RikudoKami]

Nagato said that because he was on his deathbed remember? And after he solo'd Konoha? and Naruto? and Kyuubi?

 

[psycodrrama]

Not an error, the only reason Madara needed to be resurrected by rinne tensei is because only a live person can become the jinchuriki of a bijuu (the juubi). Madara expected their plan to work perfectly where it was nagato that would resurrect him and not by edo tensei. As it stands now, the only person that can resurrect him is obito, re-read the manga

 

[Kikki]

I think even before betraying them, Nagato had already made own plans. Yes, he collected the tailed beasts but he didn't care about the moonseye plan. He wanted to create peace by using pain and war. The beasts would have been used as a weapon and not to fullfill the moonseye plan. Then he met Naruto and used that jutsu, that he most likely never wanted to use, to help Naruto.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

but do you think, since it would take obito's life to revive madara who's been dead longer, nagato would survive or do you think he'd die to

He'll die too most probably.