Wood Clone or Shadow Clone or any other.

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General question is, which kind of clone is the strongest. For what we have seen are:
-wood clone (Hashirama, Madara, Yamato)
-shadow clone (Naruto, Hiruzen, Kakashi, Itachi)
-lighting clone (Kakashi)
-water clone (Zabuza and some chuunin exam fodders)

IMO water clone is the weakest as it has only 1/10 strength of the user: (bottom left pannel)



We only saw lighting clone during Kakashi vs Pain fight



It has a good effect of paralyzing the enemy with some Raiton when dispersed. Some people say that it used half of Kakashi's chakra but that's wrong. Kakashi said that after a couple of raikiris, doton techs, raiton dog and raiton bunshin he had half chakra.

As to shadow clone- we have seen it more than enough with Naruto using it. Most people will say it is a fodder tech because in almost every Naruto fight he used it 100+ and were easily dispersed. We mustn't forget they divide chakra evenly among clones. Right now Naruto can make at least 3 bijuu clones and about 15 KM clones. When he was fighting Kurama he had maany SM clones:



Bottom panel we se amount of clones which then entered SM. Also, Hiruzen's shadow clones were even able to perform RDS. He only made 2 because of his chakra levels- was pretty old back then. But they managed to stop Hashirama and Tobirama in their movements and then seal them.

One can say that Madara has seen through the clones recognizing the real one. I think we can say that only EMS allows you to see that person is a clone (wood or shadow). Itachi didn't know that this Naruto is not a clone (when he was giving him KA). Sasuke while going to kill Itachi, dispersed one clone not knowing it was actually a clone. Obito never recognised also (f.e. Naruto & Kakashi & Gai & Bee vs Obito). But only Madara saw through Hashi's wood clones, but he had EMS back then:



Madara even stated shadow clone technique as a really pro tech:



We only saw wood clones when Madara used them and as an edo he has unlimited chakra and that's why he could make so many of them (as Uchiha he doesn't have chakra amount as Naruto or Raikage) and because of this unlimited chakra every one of them could use Susannoo.

And he only used them, because of some mysterious affect toward Hashirama and his wood. Through the battle with kages he only used Susanoo and Mokuton actually, and maybe some fire techs. It's not like he doesn't know how to use shadow clone, nor did he say that wood>shadow clone.

We haven't seen Hashirama's wood clones, so we can only guess.

What I aim is to say, that whichever clone is used, its strength is based on the actual user strength but which would be better if for example Madara used one wood clone and one shadow clone and made them fight?

So, what do you think? Please, restrain from writing comments such as "Itachi solos" "Minato>your favourite character" "Sakura is useless" "TenTen>Yo Momma". No fanboyism, no flame war. Opinions with arguments please :)
 
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the best one is Wood Clone as it can use all techniques user can and doesn't disperse like Shadow Clone
 

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of course wood clone is more durable has high longevity....followed by riton bunshin and then the normal kage bunshin....
 

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Itachi uses crow clones * you should fix that


Wood clones are the most durable we've seen , without a doubt
 

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Bm clone and wood clones as they dont dissapear after one hit :D
 

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Ligthing clone is the most chakra resuming nd also very effective but i still prefer shadow clone
 

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Mokuton clones, followed right by BM clones
 

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Is this even a debate subject? Ofc Shadow Clone..

Lol JK...Wood clone is the best
 

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I believe that was a type of shadow clone. It would either be that or wood clone. Just depends on the situation. It would be cool if Naruto could make his clones explode.

Yea, like Fuuton: Kage Bushin where the clones when hit explode and hit them with a vortex of wind.
 

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Shadow clone can also use user's every technique for example Naruto's clone can enter Bijuu Mode. Actually we haven't seen Wood clone being dispersed so we cannot say if it is more durable than any other clone that disappears while hit. Madara's clone was sealed.

And don't judge Shadow Clone tech by clones that base Naruto was made. Have you forgotten Naruto's battle tactic: Get hit 100+ times then lay one rasengan and win the fight so it's normal that they disperse so easily in his case. Hiruzen's clone didn't disappear so easily.
 

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Wood clones also used by yamato (fix that)
 

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Let's not forget the Sand clone..in terms of durability.. that should come after moukouton clones.
 

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in the batlle against madara and obito naruto use his clon... i go with kage bunshin
 

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he uses what he can perform :p
 

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The Wood Clones are the best, overall:

Aside from durability, they do not need to be dispelled in order to give the caster their acquired knowledge.
(Yamato is fully aware of what his clone has observed)
(He has such knowledge, but the clone wasn't dispelled)

Also: (1) only those with EMS can differentiate the caster from the clones; (2) the clones can merge with trees.
 

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I said about (1) shadow clone can only be recognised also by EMS. Sasuke, Itachi, Obito didn't know which was Naruto clone and which not.

But you have point with information and knowledge wood>shadow

But in a manner of fight, which is strongest?
 
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