Kakashi having MS is illogical

[KidGamer65]

But his optic nerve isn't connected to Obito's brain so how would it send the signal to his eye?

Obito was able to see out of the eye he gave to Kakashi, so I don't think that this explanation works.

 

[Aertes]

Did anyone of you thought that maybe the special chakra isn't special because it comes from the Uchiha's but it's special because it's affected by the deep feelings that anyone can experience??
Everybody suffer,the Uchiha's who posses dojutsu powers are translating their feelings to power which is reflected to their eyes.That's why he called the sharingan "the eye that reflects feelings".
Tobirama was referring to the Uchiha's because in his time nobody else had sharingan apart from the Uchiha clan.
Kakashi suffered deeply when he killed Rin and in general he had a past filled with pain.It's normal that his feelings could awakened the MS.
Plus the whole connection between the eyes anatomically doesn't make any sense.

 

[HadouKage]

Obito was able to see out of the eye he gave to Kakashi, so I don't think that this explanation works.

I thought it was Zetsu who was telling Obito what was happening? Link?

 

[KidGamer65]

I thought it was Zetsu who was telling Obito what was happening? Link?

Obito holds his empty eye socket and starts to see Kakashi's hand inside Rin's chest through what is shown as Kakashi's POV.

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[HadouKage]

lol, this is a Manga, obviously it's not likely you'll really find a truly scientific answer explaining this, but maybe the link doesn't require his optic nerve to actually be receive the signal to the eye, however the truest answer is because kishi said so.

I agree, but in this case the manga is speaking scientifically so....

Yeah, although Kakashi wouldn't have the same chakra that would cause the Sharingan to change if what Tobirama is saying is correct.

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That's debatble, due to the hatred activating MS, did Kakashi have hatred for run of killing her?

 

[Bogard]

Obito holds his empty eye socket and starts to see Kakashi's hand inside Rin's chest through what is shown as Kakashi's POV.

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I don't see the relation, but Obito said Kakashi awakened the Mangekyou

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[HadouKage]

Obito holds his empty eye socket and starts to see Kakashi's hand inside Rin's chest through what is shown as Kakashi's POV.

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Wow, so it must be a manga contradiction then thanks for the links

Obito said Kakashi awakened the Mangekyou

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Like you said, it doesn't make sense, based off science, logic, and manga proof, there is a contradiction of how Kakashi awakened it for the fact that
1. For the way Tobira explained it
2. Kakashi's brain isn't Obito's
3. He's not an Uchiha

 

[Blaze Release]

Obito said Kakashi awakened it in one of the previous chapters, and like Hadoukage said, Kakashi's Sharingan isn't connected to Obito's brain, so the changement shouldn't have happened

Its a manga certain things shouldn't be related to irl. The ways kamui and the relationship between theirs eyes have been portrayed ive no doubt that they respond to each other.

Also obito saying what he did can mean two things.
Either he didn't note that kakashi awakened the ms the first time of awakening. Or kakashi awakened it the second time on his own, in part 2

 

[medal32]

Your argument is irrelevant cuz kakashi has awesome hair and ****s bitches

 

[YellowFlash1]

I agree, but in this case the manga is speaking scientifically so....


This is an edit to my original respond

That's debatble, due to the hatred activating MS, did Kakashi have hatred for run of killing her?

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He clearly stated the Uchiha there... However, it could be any releases the chakra although on Uchiha feel the effect due to their sharingan. Who knows....

 

[HadouKage]

Its a manga certain things shouldn't be related to irl. The ways kamui and the relationship between theirs eyes have been portrayed ive no doubt that they respond to each other.

Also obito saying what he did can mean two things.
Either he didn't note that kakashi awakened the ms the first time of awakening. Or kakashi awakened it the second time on his own, in part 2

He's not an Uchiha, you also have to note that in order to awaken the Mangenkyo you must have hatred in your heart. Kakashi has not portrayed this in an manga/anime

 

[ChuckeffinNorris]

i think tobirama was meaning when the sharingan was first awakened it is due to some sort of stress or trauma, and since obito had already awakened his sharingan kakashi didn't need this chakra to activate it, as it is always active and drains his normal chakra if allowed to see. as for awakening the MS what i believe happens there is that all sharingan once awakened carry the inherent ability of the MS it is just dormant so by this kakashi didn't unlock the MS he just awoke it in a way that involved just the experience of losing someone, the uchiha chakra was already in his eye that he cannot turn off and that with the trauma he experienced awakened the MS

 

[HadouKage]

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He clearly stated the Uchiha there... However, it could be any releases the chakra although on Uchiha feel the effect due to their sharingan. Who knows....

I wasn't disagreeing with you however, somehow Obito's eye was connected with him and I was further supplying my "contradiction" argument

 

[KidGamer65]

I don't see the relation, but Obito said Kakashi awakened the Mangekyou

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If Obito was still connected to his eye, then it isn't far fetched to believe that him awakening the Mangekyou would cause his other eye that he is still connected to, to evolve into the Mangekyou as well.

What Obito said contradicts Tobirama's explanation for it though.

 

[YellowFlash1]

I wasn't disagreeing with you however, somehow Obito's eye was connected with him and I was further supplying my "contradiction" argument

Yeah, i was just posting that because it seems as if he's directly pin pointing the Uchiha, as if it's solely them that gets this Chakra sensation, which makes more sense.

 

[HadouKage]

If Obito was still connected to his eye, then it isn't far fetched to believe that him awakening the Mangekyou would cause his other eye that he is still connected to, to evolve into the Mangekyou as well.

What Obito said contradicts Tobirama's explanation for it though.

I find that ridiculous though because if that's the case why can't Kakashi avoid Tsukuyomi?

 

[Khallil]

Perhaps the eye of the Uchiha had an effect on him.

this ^

 

[Stark]

It was because of Obito that he awakened the MS, the eyes are somehow linked in a way.

 

[iSpeak]

Who said kakashi awakened the ms.
From what we saw in the manga even before the latest chapter it was always clear that, obito is the one who awakened it and since his other eye was in kakashi's head, it responded to his grief and that eye also awakened

This, Kakashi never awakened the MS. Obito awakened the MS (being pure Uchiha) and since their eyes are linked, Kakashi awakened his automatically.

 

[HadouKage]

It was because of Obito that he awakened the MS, the eyes are somehow linked in a way.

This, Kakashi never awakened the MS. Obito awakened the MS (being pure Uchiha) and since their eyes are linked, Kakashi awakened his automatically.

That doesn't explained how Kakashi awakened it, the cannon way was how Tobria explained it