I saw another thread on this matter and responded to it, but I wanted to bring all my ideas together on the matter and create my own thread on this issue. It ran a little long, so if you want the synopsis, skip to the last paragraph.
My issue is in regard to Oro implementing this plan now, when he clearly could have done it long ago, ie when he was actually alive for the first time. We know for a fact that Oro had this plan all figured out before Sasuke killed him, simply because he took the time to write the whole plan down on a scroll and store it in a secret room that not even Kabuto knew about. He did this all BEFORE Sasuke defeated him. This means he had planned the idea for some time and knew it would be successful if implemented.
Now we can't say for sure if he had this plan in part 1, but I think its safe to saw that he had it ready in early part 2 since he died relatively early in that storyline. So that means Oro had ample time to implement this plan between the start of part 2 and when he planned to take Sasuke's body. So why would he not take the risk of reviving his arms at this time and give himself a much better chance to beat Sasuke if in fact Sasuke resisted? Why would he wait to restore his arms until after taking over Sasuke when he was already in such a weakened state to begin with? To me, there is no logical answer, other than the fact that Kishi was saving this for the war or hadn't come up with the storyline yet. But as a plot-line for Oro, it makes no sense to do this now.
Some people have said that he waited this long because he didn't have the mask that he needed, but that makes no sense because of how easily he obtained it here. We know that the Uzumaki building they visited was outside of the village, so Oro could have retrieved the mask at ANY TIME without fear of being detected by the leaf. Not only that, but he could have revived the Hokage ANYWHERE, not just in the Uchiha hideout, and store them for later. We know for a fact that Edo's can be stored for an extended period in their coffins, so why not store them for a very long time, perhaps years?
Another argument is that since the Sound village was disbanded and Oro lost an ally in the Sand, that he did not have the military power to defeat the leaf EVEN WITH the revived Kage. But again, why not restore your arms AS SOON AS POSSIBLE and store them until you took over Sasuke and prepare a small army for battle? It makes no sense at all.
Here are a couple good explanations I have heard for this:
Why even bother with the Zetsu clone? Oro has shown ample examples of surviving wounds like this by using body shedding alone!
My major point here is that from everything we know, there is no reason that Oro could not have implemented this plan all by himself at any time as soon as he found the secret on the matter. He had hundreds of sacrifices ready to go and did not need the Uchiha shrine to revive the kage, he could have done that anywhere. In addition, he knew the Mask was hidden outside of the village, well within his reach, and had body shedding to survive a fatal would to the stomach. There is no reason for him not to implement this plan, power himself up in order to compete with Sasuke, and revive and store the Kage for later in order to salvage his plan to destroy the leaf somewhere else down the line. I honestly feel that this whole plot-line is very out of place and has only come about now because either it works better with the story or Kishi hadn't thought of it yet.
Thoughts, opinions, comments, concerns?
My issue is in regard to Oro implementing this plan now, when he clearly could have done it long ago, ie when he was actually alive for the first time. We know for a fact that Oro had this plan all figured out before Sasuke killed him, simply because he took the time to write the whole plan down on a scroll and store it in a secret room that not even Kabuto knew about. He did this all BEFORE Sasuke defeated him. This means he had planned the idea for some time and knew it would be successful if implemented.
Now we can't say for sure if he had this plan in part 1, but I think its safe to saw that he had it ready in early part 2 since he died relatively early in that storyline. So that means Oro had ample time to implement this plan between the start of part 2 and when he planned to take Sasuke's body. So why would he not take the risk of reviving his arms at this time and give himself a much better chance to beat Sasuke if in fact Sasuke resisted? Why would he wait to restore his arms until after taking over Sasuke when he was already in such a weakened state to begin with? To me, there is no logical answer, other than the fact that Kishi was saving this for the war or hadn't come up with the storyline yet. But as a plot-line for Oro, it makes no sense to do this now.
Some people have said that he waited this long because he didn't have the mask that he needed, but that makes no sense because of how easily he obtained it here. We know that the Uzumaki building they visited was outside of the village, so Oro could have retrieved the mask at ANY TIME without fear of being detected by the leaf. Not only that, but he could have revived the Hokage ANYWHERE, not just in the Uchiha hideout, and store them for later. We know for a fact that Edo's can be stored for an extended period in their coffins, so why not store them for a very long time, perhaps years?
Another argument is that since the Sound village was disbanded and Oro lost an ally in the Sand, that he did not have the military power to defeat the leaf EVEN WITH the revived Kage. But again, why not restore your arms AS SOON AS POSSIBLE and store them until you took over Sasuke and prepare a small army for battle? It makes no sense at all.
Here are a couple good explanations I have heard for this:
Because he didnt want kabuto to know how to summon them. This was probally his insurance policy against kabuto or anyone else that threatened him.
The insurance policy against Kabuto is a good idea, but why not simply implement this plan ALONE and never tell Kabuto about it? Moreover, why can't he survive this on his own? I mean am I missing something or is simply body shedding enough to survive this?:There is probably a trust issue at work here. Orochimaru has to sacrifice himself and someone must restrain a body for him to inhabit. Kabuto might just let Orochimaru perish rather than assist. Sasuke needed Orochimaru to summon the Hokage so there was mutual advantage.
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Why even bother with the Zetsu clone? Oro has shown ample examples of surviving wounds like this by using body shedding alone!
My major point here is that from everything we know, there is no reason that Oro could not have implemented this plan all by himself at any time as soon as he found the secret on the matter. He had hundreds of sacrifices ready to go and did not need the Uchiha shrine to revive the kage, he could have done that anywhere. In addition, he knew the Mask was hidden outside of the village, well within his reach, and had body shedding to survive a fatal would to the stomach. There is no reason for him not to implement this plan, power himself up in order to compete with Sasuke, and revive and store the Kage for later in order to salvage his plan to destroy the leaf somewhere else down the line. I honestly feel that this whole plot-line is very out of place and has only come about now because either it works better with the story or Kishi hadn't thought of it yet.
Thoughts, opinions, comments, concerns?