blazekev90
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Did he not?? Sure he mumbled a few words, but he went to break/release the jutsu and it's far enough to say w/ more distance he would have successfully done so.
Orochimaru/Genjutsu Misconception!!!!!!
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I agree that Orochimaru is a good Genjutsu user however, he's nowhere near Itachi's level, Itachi didn't even take him serious lol. Itachi stayed cool and calm and did what he had to do, Orochimaru underestimated Itachi and got punished afterwards.
Itachi > Orochimaru.
Itachi > Orochimaru.
If he could, then why didn't he?
The only Sharingan technique that is an ultimate threat to Oro is not Susano'o nor amatearsu but its Genjutsu abilities. Even if there was more space between the two like he had here:
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He still couldn't break it.
blazekev90
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Why would Orochimaru try to take his body again after such an incident?? To be honest, for a man like Orochimaru that was embarrassing and he knew that Itachi's genjutsu was far stronger than he expected. The only obvious inferiority between the two (IMO) is his ability to cast genjutsu.
Also, after this we only seen Orochimaru once fully powered and even in a weakened state (low chakra & no ninjutsu) he was bold enough to face Itachi again.
blazekev90
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Not saying neither is greater than the other, I feel each has their own advantages. Itachi obviously having many more tools perfect for counting Orochimaru. This was simply to put out that Orochimaru isn't weak against genjutsu.
In that situation, he did breaks Sasuke's binding genjutsu, but failed to reverse the process. Sasuke seemed to have used this before the attack happened. We (I) don't know exactly what Sasuke did in the process. However, in the image, it shows that Orochimaru moved effortlessly.
In order to obtain body that was perfect for him. That was his main goal for the whole manga.
Thats right, but at that time Itachi had hardly any chakra left and could barely walk. Orochimaru knew that Itachi was severly exhausted, he watched the whole battle after all.
blazekev90
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That perfect body became a young uchiha, hence his reason for going after Sasuke. Who he noted in having greater potential than Itachi himself.
This is true, so basically we were still on the stay playing-field
Only, Sasuke awakened his Sharingan years after, and Orochimaru learned about his potential only after he met him during Chuunin exams. Orochimaru had years to come after Itachis body once again, he didnt. That proves enough.
blazekev90
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It was his dimension, i really doubt that jutsu (binding) itself had any real affect. It wasn't that in assisting in Sasuke reversing that ritual. Orochimaru acknowledged that jutsu and disregarded it.
Sauske reserved the ritual prior to everything
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blazekev90
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are you implying that Orochimaru was actually afraid to confront Itachi again?!?!
1) In confronting Itachi, he would have to know his whereabouts
2) He being hunted by akatsuki already
3) he would have to deal with two former co-memebers
4) Why would he do that, if he could have a freshly trained Uchiha under him, willing to offer his body. That he noted after their first encounter had more potential??
why would he take that risk, it wasn't like he didn't know of Sasuke.
Maybe, but the environment plays a huge factor here. Orochimaru in the real world was unable to react to the technique when faced with it.
At this point its up to you to believe what you want.
UchihaInza
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Agree and disagree. People saying oro's weakness is genjutsu clearly do not understand the manga.
Its already stated several times that the 2 vs 1 method is what is needed to fight a sharingan user because visual genjutsu are hard to combat and one's caught in them in a 1 vs 1 scenario you would lose.
Oro as you stated has a 5 in DB for genjutsu. To gain a 5 you need to be know in depth the category but also use it.
However note that just because oro also has a 5 doesn't mean that him and itachi stand equal in genjutsu, not at all. Merely means that oro is good enough to get a 5 just like itachi. It doesn't compare ninja's prowess and judge on this, but rather looks at the ninja as an individual. Not to forget that scores are capped at 5
The genjutsu oro faced was a kanashibari, or paralysis based genjutsu which takes away movement. Oro was struggling to move his arm in order to break free, but the reason he couldn't in time was because he was paralysed. Btw itachi NEVER came close to deal a vital blow. That genjutsu is close range to begin with, The proximity was always constant
Its already stated several times that the 2 vs 1 method is what is needed to fight a sharingan user because visual genjutsu are hard to combat and one's caught in them in a 1 vs 1 scenario you would lose.
Oro as you stated has a 5 in DB for genjutsu. To gain a 5 you need to be know in depth the category but also use it.
However note that just because oro also has a 5 doesn't mean that him and itachi stand equal in genjutsu, not at all. Merely means that oro is good enough to get a 5 just like itachi. It doesn't compare ninja's prowess and judge on this, but rather looks at the ninja as an individual. Not to forget that scores are capped at 5
The genjutsu oro faced was a kanashibari, or paralysis based genjutsu which takes away movement. Oro was struggling to move his arm in order to break free, but the reason he couldn't in time was because he was paralysed. Btw itachi NEVER came close to deal a vital blow. That genjutsu is close range to begin with, The proximity was always constant
blazekev90
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lol the fact is, Sasuke's binding genjutsu had no effect. Whether it was the environment or Orochimaru himself (which everything was inside of Orochimaru) lol