[Discussion] Zoro vs Vergo
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Uzumaki Macho
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That's cute.
Vergo has Haki, and Pica doesn't.
Vergo isn't a DF user and can use water to his advantage.
When Pica switches to another form of rock, he can either blitz him or throw his bamboo like a javelin at him.
Honestly I don't think Pica can beat Vergo.
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To anyone who uses the Sanji vs Vergo fight as an argument for Vergo winning, I'd just like to point out that Vergo was a bad matchup for Sanji since he doesn't do well against people with great defense.
Literally no one used Sanji as an argument for Vergo winning in this entire thread, so what are you on about ? Sanji doesn't well against defense ? What a load of crap, he was the first to break tekkai.
The whole point is, what evidence is there for Zoro being able to cut through the best haki shown up till date. It's all nice and dandy that he can cut stone and steel, but as show by Cavendish with Durendall, haki is a different story all together. Look at the type of attacks Doffy was able to tank with a haki coat. Now imagine it all over Vergo's body.
Besides that Vergo moves at great speeds with Soru and Geppou, has long ranged attacks with his pipe, close ranged with his fists and everything in between. He basically is the nightmare match-up for any kind of brawler like Smoker, Sanji and also Zoro. Vergo and Doffy were under the assumption that he would smoke Law easily.
Law's ability in combination with Vergo's cockiness were the only reason he got defeated.
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When it comes to Pica, I think people are too quick to assume a giant body instantly equals instawin instead of thinking about what he's actually done, and what his opponents can do.
He can level an island. Can Vergo do that? Nope
His punch can destroy a town. Can Vergo do that? Nope
His arm rock was fast enough to grab Luffy, Kyros, Law, Viola and the king sending them outside of the palace. Could Vergo do that? Nope
He has damage immunity and regeneration. Vergo has that? Nope
xanonymosx
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can you tell me what vergo can do when pica is in his giant rock body ? his attacks will be like a mosquito bite (attack on titans)
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Did Pica level an island ? Nope, it was just the palace.
Does this matter in any way for this thread, nope. because that skill is totally useless in a fight.
This kind of argumentation is just so childish and subjective. I can make a list ten times longer with the skill Vergo has over Pica such as Soru, geppou, ranged attacks, haki etc. But it doesn't matter.
What matters is that Pica's stone shell was and is absolutely useless against strong fighters.
Don chinjao blew an arm of together with the king of prodence on half power;
Luffy blew his head of in a single blow;
Zoro is slicing through stone as he is cutting paper.
Do you think Vergo isn't able to do that in his massive haki mode with that kind of destructive power that he shown ? nop... oh wait a minute YES OF COURSE !.
Vergo would kick the shit out of that weak shell, just like other musquitos like Don chinjao, king of prodence, Zoro and Luffy already did.
One on one with the real body it wouldn't be a fight it would be rape for Pica.
Questioning Pica vs Vergo is laughable at this point. The only question is:
Can Zoro (with the abilities from Punk Hazard) cut through Vergo's haki. If the answer is yes, he would probably win. If it's no he would obviously lose.
All the other bullshit doesn't even matter. Don't come with the crap that Zoro most likely can because he is Zoro. Cavendish already showed that you can't cut haki just like that. And Sabo broke a VA's sword by pinching it with only his hand covered in haki.
SO if you want to convince me, explain me HOW Zoro would cut through something like that, not on what diff or how long it takes him to solo. That is not interesting in a discussion, and a just an excuse to raise post count rather than joining a conversation.
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so you are saying vergo have the same power as luffy or chinjao or the so called kings punch or can do an attack with same zoro`s 1080 ? a little proof woud be great
all vergo did is punching and kicking he didnt show that much of destructive capacity
also you said earlier why wouldnt vergo use his bh body so scinario one is not resonable i agree with you so why whould pica fight with his real body (yeh he dsnt have much of chance if he did ) why wouldnt he? vergo will not do any harm to him unless you show me vergo has a powerfull destruvtive capacity
i dont think his explosive stick bullets can harm pica
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Yes that is what I'm saying. Also it was a 1/2 king's punch.
You could take an example of Vergo only uses his breath and a bamboo stick to create huge explosions that even a logia was eager to dodge.
But the main example is a basic swing of Vergo's hakified bamboo stick, a technique called Oni Take. Where Vergo breaks through Smoker's Jutte like butter. And the shockwave of that attack crushes thick steel doors and walls far behind Smoker.
This was basically the killing blow for Vice admiral Smoker.
You can see the technique here at the 4:00 minute mark:
[video=youtube;q0i4x868Zwc]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0i4x868Zwc[/video]
here is the aftermath of just the shockwave:
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And yes, this also happened in the manga. So no filler.
I can't imagine how messy this would be if this would be a direct hit on Pica's stone head.
xanonymosx
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You don't ?
You think Rock is waaay harder than steel ?
You think if an indirect hit of air has that effect on a huge labratory steel wall, that Pica's stone face will come out just fine ?
You think that if he is able to this with just haki in his stick, that in his hulk form he can't do much more damage ?
You think that when he was in his hulk form and just gently tapping the floor, creating craters in a thick factory floor, that he can't make a huge hole in Pica's cranium if he tried, flying at him with Soru speed through the air.
Tell me, what do you think ?
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of course rocks are not harder than steel but did i say vergo wouldnt be able to destroy the rocks ? no i said his attacks will not have that much of capacity he will not damage much of pica`s statue but you said its equal to zoro`s 1080 and a idont see that
But why does it have to be equal or stronger ?
Zoro is using 3 sharp swords, Vergo is using a piece of bamboo to create a similar effect. You also said that in a 1 vs 1 with Pica's real body this wouldn't be a fair match.
Is Vergo's Oni Take good enough, to destroy Pica's face and to smash out the real body ? Yes I think so. After that it's game over.
And let's be real here. Don Chinjao and the King also were able to break Pica. It's not like Pica's stone is that good. Pica is a sluggish giant with a big target, and Vergo is a nimble fighter who packs a punch.