[VS] Zoro vs Mihawk

[ssjelf]

I know what knife. Changes nothing about my post. Mihawk's Haki will still be superior. His strength, durability, speed, all will be superior.

And to people thinking Zoro isn't that far from Mihawk, Law, someone above Zoro and on Luffy's general level, was awestruck at Fujitora pulling a single meteor. Fuji then said that was practice. And Akainu was spamming shit like that at Marineford. So yeah, they're not at the top tier.

To say that he gets low diffed by the knife is to say that zero hasn't improved at all since like chapter 30. Mihawk said his knife isn't as powerful as his sword because he doesn't go all out against weak opponents. Zoro trained with him for 2 years and you still think that he was getting low diffed when Mohawk isn't even trying, that a bit ridiculous. At best he low diffs zoro at full power using his real sword. Can't wait to see more zoro flashbacks that show his training. If he couldn't even take Mihawk to low diff using that weapon after 2 years then zoro should just quit trying to be WSS.

 

[Punk Hazard]

To say that he gets low diffed by the knife is to say that zero hasn't improved at all since like chapter 30. Mihawk said his knife isn't as powerful as his sword because he doesn't go all out against weak opponents. Zoro trained with him for 2 years and you still think that he was getting low diffed when Mohawk isn't even trying, that a bit ridiculous. At best he low diffs zoro at full power using his real sword. Can't wait to see more zoro flashbacks that show his training. If he couldn't even take Mihawk to low diff using that weapon after 2 years then zoro should just quit trying to be WSS.

No, that's saying that Zoro has improved but he's still so far behind Mihawk, that Mihawk can use more effort than he did last time and get the same result. If Mihawk went all out with it, he'd low diff Zoro.

It was only 2 years, they still have a long way to go.

 

[Forbidden Tale]

Yonko-level pirate is someone who could take on a yonko on 1v1 fight and either lose mid-extreme diff or win . Doffy didn;t have the men power, nor the enough courage to take on kaido, since his business ,family and his national secret were on the line. Plus I'm yet to see one feat from mihawk that makes him a yonko level pirate, people tend to say that it's because he's the world strongest swordsman and that puts him above shanks, but on the other hand oda and the manga actually, said that yonko are above all other pirates in terms of strength, and mihawk is a shichibukai aka a pirate with a frozen bounty and therefore either this shit is totally inconsistent or shanks simply isn't a swordsman, you choose.

Where did manga said Yonkos are strongest pirates?

 

[Frankenstein]

I refuse to believe that Zoro can't win against a knife at his current level. Of course I think that he has a long way to go until he is at Mihawk's level but still. Mihawk might be able to present some serious resistance even with that ridiculous weapon but I just can't see him win. The weapon is just literally not enough.

 

[Relostar Devil]

Well, Mihawk is the World's Strongest Swordsman which puts him above Shanks.

He also duels with Shanks so much that their duels are called legendary by the strongest man in the world who lived in the great pirate age. That's not possible if they're not on the same level

WB never said that there fights are legendary and mihawk works under shanks just like doffy do for kaidou. Every pirate has to work for younkou or go against them in new world and this very same thing applies to mihawk. Shanks is a kind hearted guy that's why he agrees on duel but the audience took it some other way and thought that they are on a equal level.

 

[Venomous Cobra]

A dagger is a dagger, not a sword...

so?mihawk used

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as a sword and kuzan made it out grass......

Yonko is vastly different in concept than a Shichibukai.

not really you can't tell the difference as we're yet to see a yonko go all out or even fight aside from WB

Kizaru wielded a sword once, he didn't do so consistently or regularly. Kuzan made a spike of ice, barely qualifies as a sword, and he he hasn't used it enough.

You're being too literal, anything that is used as a sword is still a sword.

Kaku also proves my point. He's a martial artist using 6 different powers independent from his swords and is still considered a swordsman.

Actually kaku disproves your point and here's way.


1-kaku didn't have the two swords with him in his first appearance and yes you could argue that he was keeping low for his mission but still, after the cp9 uncovered their identity in water seven he still didn't have his sword. Not even when he was in the train or when he was standing on the top of enis lobby.

2- kaku never used his DF to make his swordsmanship better, that was only law.



Guess who was a swordsman as well?

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Yet he's here using a gun in a different place. Franky is also definitely not a swordsman yet he used it in the general franky robot.

 

[Venomous Cobra]

Where did manga said Yonkos are strongest pirates?

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[Punk Hazard]

so?mihawk used

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as a sword and kuzan made it out grass......


not really you can't tell the difference as we're yet to see a yonko go all out or even fight aside from WB

You're being too literal, anything that is used as a sword is still a sword.

Actually kaku disproves your point and here's way.


1-kaku didn't have the two swords with him in his first appearance and yes you could argue that he was keeping low for his mission but still, after the cp9 uncovered their identity in water seven he still didn't have his sword. Not even when he was in the train or when he was standing on the top of enis lobby.

2- kaku never used his DF to make his swordsmanship better, that was only law.



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Yet he's here using a gun in a different place. Franky is also definitely not a swordsman yet he used it in the general franky robot.

That's also not a sword, unless you wanna say it's a miniature one. But a knife is not considered the same as a sword.

Kaku described himself a "Four-Swords Style user." That makes him a swordsman by his own admission. Kaku is a swordsman despite being a martial artist as well, reinforcing my point.

And when did I say anything about Kaku using his DF to make his sportsmanship better?

Yes, Spandam is also a swordsman. So? And Franky doesn't use a sword regularly or consistently enough to be considered one.

 

[-Akuma-]

Zoro low difficulty. His knife is overpowered and cut right in half. If people still think the gap between Zoro and Mihawk is that large you need to evaluate yourself.​

So many things wrong with one post......

Luffy wasted a lot of his haki in the colosseum got damaged by bellamy exhausted himself and thats nothing to you?? doffy was just sitting there the whole time.

Doffy couldn't even keep up with luffy's speed in G4 Luffy destroyed his ultimate defense... what are you talking about??

I hope you're joking, Luffy's haki probably recovered on the way to the coliseum, the damage DD received was way worse, he got hit by a Red Hawk and a Gamma Knife his organs were literally being held together by STRING.

Doffy was able to track Luffy and G4 and his strongest move broke DD defence though DD would of most likely gotten back after if he hadn't sustained any injury prior.

 

[OG sama]

@bold, the thing is.. They are. Sabo would probably Merck Luffy or Zoro as well.

No they aren't, the OP community seems to think characters who have short skirmishes with Admirals should be put on some level far above the SNs, creating a seemingly even bigger gap between them and Admirals.

All those clashes they had with admirals are faulty, Fujitora wanted to be held back by Sabo , Marco kicked Kizaru and did no damage. Jozus best feat is hitting a distracted Aokiji who was fighting the WSM. Vista didn't even get an upper hand on Mihawk who wasn't taking the fight all that serious.

It took Marco + Vista to actually harm Akainu and even still the attack did minimum damage, and this is after there comrade was magma fisted through the chest, their Haki should have been stronger than ever.

Sabo had bruises even though Fuji wanted to be held back, Jozu was one shotted as soon as he got distracted.

You can't seriously sit here and tell me if G4 was in any of these situations he would look worse, a KKG would definitely give a distracted Aokiji more than a nose bleed, Marcos kicks are no where near as devastating as G4 attacks have been portrayed to be, G4 nearly tore a whole town In two. Luffy was dodging attacks from a non serious Mihawk pre skip, no reason he couldn't do the same now.

I'm not saying that the SN can give an Admiral a tough fight but there not fodder stomping them like they could pre skip.

And there was no reason for the WB commanders or Sabo to hold back they had family they wanted to protect. The Admirals couldn't be pushed by those guys to go all out.

If the WB commanders and Sabo are really stronger than Luffy, the gap is small at best.

 

[lelerskates]

WB never said that there fights are legendary and mihawk works under shanks just like doffy do for kaidou. .

Just went i thought i couldnt read something so incredibly stupid today. You proved me wrong.

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

No they aren't, the OP community seems to think characters who have short skirmishes with Admirals should be put on some level far above the SNs, creating a seemingly even bigger gap between them and Admirals.

All those clashes they had with admirals are faulty, Fujitora wanted to be held back by Sabo , Marco kicked Kizaru and did no damage. Jozus best feat is hitting a distracted Aokiji who was fighting the WSM. Vista didn't even get an upper hand on Mihawk who wasn't taking the fight all that serious.

It took Marco + Vista to actually harm Akainu and even still the attack did minimum damage, and this is after there comrade was magma fisted through the chest, their Haki should have been stronger than ever.

Sabo had bruises even though Fuji wanted to be held back, Jozu was one shotted as soon as he got distracted.

You can't seriously sit here and tell me if G4 was in any of these situations he would look worse, a KKG would definitely give a distracted Aokiji more than a nose bleed, Marcos kicks are no where near as devastating as G4 attacks have been portrayed to be, G4 nearly tore a whole town In two. Luffy was dodging attacks from a non serious Mihawk pre skip, no reason he couldn't do the same now.

I'm not saying that the SN can give an Admiral a tough fight but there not fodder stomping them like they could pre skip.

And there was no reason for the WB commanders or Sabo to hold back they had family they wanted to protect. The Admirals couldn't be pushed by those guys to go all out.

If the WB commanders and Sabo are really stronger than Luffy, the gap is small at best.

I agree with r most of statement I never understood why ppl automatically put Marco on level with admirals even tho he's portrayed to b slightly stronger then his fellow commanders when one of them got one shotted when not paying attention.... I also never understood why ppl automatically put sabo above luffy by significant multiple margins (he's around doffy/jozu Kuma brain level at best but below my small margin and proved he as a young one doesn't have the experience to contend with admiral to do anything significant) when they r around same age and had fantastic teachers ... Other then the hype of him being number 2 (despite Us seeing 2 organizations prior have #1s>#2s with the heads being what u could call 0 talking bout croc organization and whitebeard pirates... Hell ace was #2 yet he was weaker then vista/ jozu....) but I digress :|

 

[loj]

Mihawk still takes this.Mid diff at max.

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

Mihawk still takes this.Mid diff at max.

By hype and portrayal zoro cannot push mihawk past low diff yet-.-

Think of it like this mihawk is most likely admiral level no doubt (as he used to spar with shanks on daily as well as being best swordsman in world..)
So if someone like zoro could push him to mid diff

When his captain couldn't defeat doffy with the highest of extreme diffs while having law as a partner and getting saved by entire dressrosa to help him ... And if mihawk by portrayal (I believe this no doubt) is stronger then doffy

How the hell could zoro push someone stronger then doffy to mid diff


When 2 ppl above him (luffy and law) took everything they had and then some to take out someone weaker then mihawk...


By that logic that would make mihawk weaker then doffy which is absurd .. :|

So yeah at best zoro gets the mid levels of low diff

 

[OG sama]

By hype and portrayal zoro cannot push mihawk past low diff yet-.-

Think of it like this mihawk is most likely admiral level no doubt (as he used to spar with shanks on daily as well as being best swordsman in world..)
So if someone like zoro could push him to mid diff

When his captain couldn't defeat doffy with the highest of extreme diffs while having law as a partner and getting saved by entire dressrosa to help him ... And if mihawk by portrayal (I believe this no doubt) is stronger then doffy

How the hell could zoro push someone stronger then doffy to mid diff


When 2 ppl above him (luffy and law) took everything they had and then some to take out someone weaker then mihawk...


By that logic that would make mihawk weaker then doffy which is absurd .. :|

So yeah at best zoro gets the mid levels of low diff

Luffy and Law fought Doflamingo individually for the most part, every time they worked together Doflamingo would get a red hawk or an GK to the chest. And this is Luffy not even using G4.

Not to mention the fight was 3v2, and Trebol caused Law to get a full blight to the chest and Bellamy managed to injure Luffy. While Luffy was occupied with Bellamy, a one armed Law was still hard for Doflamingo and Trebol to kill. Taking sticky launchers while injured and string attacks.

Luffy + Law without G4 can beat Doffy.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Great job OG Sama. Now this is gonna go to Luffy and Law vs Doffy to Luffy vs Law to Bellamy vs Pica. Just wait.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

So how strong do you guys think Knife Mihawk is?

 

[ultraChalk]

Mihawk, mid diff.

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

So how strong do you guys think Knife Mihawk is?

I mean it takes less effort to swing that one so he should be faster with it but considerably less power... So idk really the real question can he do those green like slashes with it

 

[Bogard]

Mihawk will lose in destructive capacity and range but that's about it. He is still faster and more skilled with a sword than Zoro and he possess island level durability and endurance to boot(which is the minimum for a top tier), so Zoro even with his swords and superior range will have problems to put him down. On the other side, Mihawk may need to only place clean hits on vital parts to finish the fight. Hell with his superior physical stats he may not even need his dagger to win. Probably mid diff though