[Discussion] Zoro vs Luffy(w/o plot shield)

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Luffy was always first in the crew.

Luffy weak against swords? Who isn't?
 

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luffy has already shown his full power idk why people think he hasn't. elepohant gattling is his strongest move

Hardly. Dude easily has a ton of other moves he could be using. That's the best he's shown. Could have even applied Red Hawk to the elephant gatling.

I'm still waiting to see the gear second and third merger like Thriller Bark.


Luffy > Zoro. Deal with it. Just like I deal with the fact Robin gets trolled every arc.
 

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Luffy severely outclasses Zoro in all departments of Haki, that will be the difference in their fight.
 

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i don't recall this, they fought at whiskey peak and were pretty even which was just before alabasta arc.
And during the Baroque Works countdown it was officially established Luffy was top gun when Sanji fought Mr. 2, Zoro fought Mr. 1 and Luffy fought Mr. 0 himself. That was Oda's creative way of scaling the M3.
 

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And during the Baroque Works countdown it was officially established Luffy was top gun when Sanji fought Mr. 2, Zoro fought Mr. 1 and Luffy fought Mr. 0 himself. That was Oda's creative way of scaling the M3.

Yep that's how it works. luffy fights strongest, Zoro second strongest, and Sanji third strongest. That's just how Oda writes his manga. Pre alabasta there could be an argument about Zoro beating Luffy, but I think Luffy wins high def. The gap in strength is most likely small, but it's there nevertheless.
 

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Luffy shits on Zoro. LOL at you fapboys.
 

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And during the Baroque Works countdown it was officially established Luffy was top gun when Sanji fought Mr. 2, Zoro fought Mr. 1 and Luffy fought Mr. 0 himself. That was Oda's creative way of scaling the M3.
doesn't prove anything luffy is the main protagonist he will always fight the main antagonist. zoro also ascended himself in alabasta after learning to cut steel. imo luffy was probably stronger back then but all im saying is that it wasn't confirmed who was stronger between the 2 until the lucci fight.
 

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Imo Zoro might win. Because here are the facts Zoro has been fighting the whole time without trying. The guy hasn't gotten hurt once. Luffy on the other hand is lacking that and been getting hurt along the way. Like recently when he attacked Doffy without adding haki Doffy blocks it like nothing.
 

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Imo Zoro might win. Because here are the facts Zoro has been fighting the whole time without trying. The guy hasn't gotten hurt once. Luffy on the other hand is lacking that and been getting hurt along the way. Like recently when he attacked Doffy without adding haki Doffy blocks it like nothing.

Zoro got owned by the yeti cool bros though :/
 

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Zoro beats Luffy High difficulty.

Anyone who says otherwise is an Illogical fanboy

The amount if maturity and thought that went into making this claim and supporting it with evidence is unbelievable. You've got to do this more often.



*switches sarcasm mode off*


Look, Ennis Lobby: Zoro ==> If Luffy loses, that man will kill us all.

So Lucci after a fight with Luffy is stronger than the Strawhats after their respective fights which took less effort non their part to Win than Luffy took to best Lucci.


As of Ennis Lobby its an absolute guarantee that Luffy is the strongest. As of Alabasta, it was known thst the two were fighting as equals.
 

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The amount if maturity and thought that went into making this claim and supporting it with evidence is unbelievable. You've got to do this more often.



*switches sarcasm mode off*


Look, Ennis Lobby: Zoro ==> If Luffy loses, that man will kill us all.

So Lucci after a fight with Luffy is stronger than the Strawhats after their respective fights which took less effort non their part to Win than Luffy took to best Lucci.


As of Ennis Lobby its an absolute guarantee that Luffy is the strongest. As of Alabasta, it was known thst the two were fighting as equals.
Luffy > Zoro, always and forever.

Zoro would not allow someone weaker than himself to be his Captain because that person would hinder his chances at becoming the World's Greatest Swordsmen.

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PS: This is coming from a Zoro fanboy.
 
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Luffy with plot shield defeats Zoro @high diff

Luffy w/o plot shield defeats Zoro @extreme high diff
(luffy will probably loose an arm)
 

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Luffy would win...seriously one chapter and everyone starts questioning whether the captain of the crew is weaker than his vice captain?

Also the whole Luffy is weak against swords is bull and like it's been stated he's as weak to swords as much as any other person.

Zoro fanboys the pecking order is like this...

Luffy>Zoro>Sanji
 

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Luffy beats Zoro above high dif.
 
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