[Discussion] Zoro vs Enel?

[Avinash012]

No but once he gets slashed/punched that's pretty much it :/. Enel's attacks are pretty weak. Current Zoro is faster than Pre-skip Luffy and Sanji who could keep up with Enel. Zoro also has Pre-cog and he has CoA. Enel really doesn't have any way to take out Zoro.

Enel's durability is shit.

He can attack Zoro without getng any closer

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well i think caesar could beat enel because he can remove air around his surroundings.
as for OT Zoro has a good chance but we still has to see Enel after time skip.

He can use long range attacks

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

He can attack Zoro without getng any closer

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He can use long range attacks

Congratulations. So can pretty much anyone on my list.

 

[AllseeingSharingan]

Zoro also has mantra and btw from what your saying i can tell you aren't far in OP.

Mihawk and Doflamingo>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Enel

Use your brain.

Are you even past Marineford? lol.

I actually am and you should realize Enel can use long range attacks too kill Zoro. Do you actually believe Zoro could stop his kingdom come attack that destroyed skypiea on sky island. Enel power was on par with the marine admirals. Think about it when Zoro fought Enel two years ago he was fodder and when Zoro fought kizaru he was a fodder just as easy as the first time. Now my question to you now do you think current Zoro could beat kizaru?

 

[Fireplay]

I actually am and you should realize Enel can use long range attacks too kill Zoro. Do you actually believe Zoro could stop his kingdom come attack that destroyed skypiea on sky island. Enel power was on par with the marine admirals. Think about it when Zoro fought Enel two years ago he was fodder and when Zoro fought kizaru he was a fodder just as easy as the first time. Now my question to you now do you think current Zoro could beat kizaru?

What the f*ck is this? Enel gets stomped by any admiral. He gets stomped by Vice-Admirals and up.

Enel needs prep and Maxim in order to use Raigou. He doesn't have prep or maxim in a 1v1 fight.

Enel got solo'd by a kick. All he had was intangibility but Zoro has Haki. I doubt you've made it past the Timeskip. Otherwise you would know Zoro has Haki and that Admirals>>>>>>>>>>>Enel. Well you should know that as soon as Aokiji appeared.

Also it's Haki not mantra. You aren't past marineford dude.

 

[Fujitora]

Enel is as horribly overrated as Crocodile.

 

[Skull Knight]

He can use long range attacks

but caesar doesnot likes to fight long range.i think he likes mid range fighting.
also he got gastanet(his only good long/mid range weapon)

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

I actually am and you should realize Enel can use long range attacks too kill Zoro. Do you actually believe Zoro could stop his kingdom come attack that destroyed skypiea on sky island. Enel power was on par with the marine admirals. Think about it when Zoro fought Enel two years ago he was fodder and when Zoro fought kizaru he was a fodder just as easy as the first time. Now my question to you now do you think current Zoro could beat kizaru?

Zoro can use long range attacks too. What Manga have you been reading? Clearly not One Piece.

That attack took several minutes of charging up and enhancement from a ship which could and would easily be annihilated in a fight vs Zoro and therefore that attack would never happen.

An admiral can do everything Enel can but better in terms of combat. They're faster in terms of reflexes : can hit him. He cannot hit them. They can also dodge his attacks because they have mantra. If you're calling it Mantra then you're clearly not as far as Marineford where mine and Fireplays point will be proven.

Zoro got stronger: and was fodderized worse by Borsalino than Enel. Therefore Admirals > Enel through powerscaling alone. Kizaru stomps Enel so comparing him , Zoro and Kizaru is a retarded thing to do. Kizaru beats Asura Zoro mid diff whereas Zoro beats Enel low diff as he cannot use Busoshoku Haki and is too far up his own ass.

 

[Avinash012]

Congratulations. So can pretty much anyone on my list.

Not really & attacks like sword slash can be avoidable where are u can't dodge lightning spam(area effected by the attack is larger)

but caesar doesnot likes to fight long range.i think he likes mid range fighting.
also he got gastanet(his only good long/mid range weapon)

That dosen't matter for his opponent ...he can fight at any range as long as his attack managed to hit caesar

 

[AllseeingSharingan]

What the f*ck is this? Enel gets stomped by any admiral. He gets stomped by Vice-Admirals and up.

Enel needs prep and Maxim in order to use Raigou. He doesn't have prep or maxim in a 1v1 fight.

Enel got solo'd by a kick. All he had was intangibility but Zoro has Haki. I doubt you've made it past the Timeskip. Otherwise you would know Zoro has Haki and that Admirals>>>>>>>>>>>Enel. Well you should know that as soon as Aokiji appeared.

At you serious this guy has mantra already that just like haki he's on no wanted posters admirals don't even know him. He was using mantra haki before Zoro luffy all of them come back when Zoro is.made out of rubber than he could win. your obviously not understanding his devil fruit power is thunder it can reach the ground faster than sound. Luffy beat him cuz he's rubber cuz luffy beat him everyone can like zoro can beat him too? C'mon bro

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

Not really & attacks like sword slash can be avoidable where are u can't dodge lightning spam(area effected by the attack is larger)

Enels attacks from the sky take time to charge up. A second is more than enough for mid tiers to dodge. Mid tiers don't even make top 60. So it's clear that someone of Zoro's caliber can dodge those attacks with ease.

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

At you serious this guy has mantra already that just like haki he's on no wanted posters admirals don't even know him. He was using mantra haki before Zoro luffy all of them come back when Zoro is.made out of rubber than he could win. your obviously not understanding his devil fruit power is thunder it can reach the ground faster than sound. Luffy beat him cuz he's rubber cuz luffy beat him everyone can like zoro? C'mon bro

I'll do a little powerscale for you: (This is all approximate and estimated)
Lets say that SOS Luffy = 5 and Zoro = 4.75
By Alabasta Luffy was about 20 and Zoro: 19
Enel was roughly 100 or so imo...
Luffy won due to being rubber that is true but we're talking about now and not the past.
G2 Luffy = 40 and G3 = 45
Asura Zoro = 39

After the time skip they one shotted what all combined failed to do pre TS: A Pacifista.

So multiply their strength by 4 or so....

G2 Luffy = 120 and G3 = 135 > 100
39 x 4 = 116 > 100

You compare them to admirals right?
Sanji would roughly be 112 or so...

Doflamingo LOW DIFFED Sanji. And Doflamingo would be approximately 180 to 200.
Considering this: he ran away from Kuzan because he was scared. He shat himself when Fujitora pulled down a meteor. Admirals are easily over 200 and therefore double Enels strength as a minimum

 

[AllseeingSharingan]

Zoro can use long range attacks too. What Manga have you been reading? Clearly not One Piece.

That attack took several minutes of charging up and enhancement from a ship which could and would easily be annihilated in a fight vs Zoro and therefore that attack would never happen.

An admiral can do everything Enel can but better in terms of combat. They're faster in terms of reflexes : can hit him. He cannot hit them. They can also dodge his attacks because they have mantra. If you're calling it Mantra then you're clearly not as far as Marineford where mine and Fireplays point will be proven.

Zoro got stronger: and was fodderized worse by Borsalino than Enel. Therefore Admirals > Enel through powerscaling alone. Kizaru stomps Enel so comparing him , Zoro and Kizaru is a retarded thing to do. Kizaru beats Asura Zoro mid diff whereas Zoro beats Enel low diff as he cannot use Busoshoku Haki and is too far up his own ass.

I'm caught up and when Rayliegh was training luffy. He explained haki to Luffy and also stated ppl in sky island used there own haki but they called it mantra. He would know this because he went there with gol d Roger

 

[Fireplay]

At you serious this guy has mantra already that just like haki he's on no wanted posters admirals don't even know him. He was using mantra haki before Zoro luffy all of them come back when Zoro is.made out of rubber than he could win. your obviously not understanding his devil fruit power is thunder it can reach the ground faster than sound. Luffy beat him cuz he's rubber cuz luffy beat him everyone can like zoro? C'mon bro

CoO Haki and mantra is the same thing. You aren't past marineford dude. When Zoro's made of rubber? Reach faster than sound? Enies Lobby Zoro was already way faster than sound. Zoro's reaction and movement speed are both top notch. Enel doesn't have a bounty because he resides in Skypiea which practictally doesn't exist in the WG's eyes. Pre-gears Luffy was keeping up with Enel. If Enel was so good he would've beaten Luffy regardless him being made of rubber. Current Zoro blitzes Pre-skip Luffy and Enel.

Zoro has no problem landing a hit on Enel now. He has Haki and the speed. As soon as Zoro lands a hit it's over. Enel can't take a hit.

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

I'm caught up and when Rayliegh was training luffy. He explained haki to Luffy and also stated ppl in sky island used there own haki but they called it mantra. He would know this because he went there with gol d Roger

Thank you for that sir. I've been following OP for more than 6 years. I know. I watched it grow right before my eyes like a child from the end of Ennies Lobby. Novice.
XD

 

[Avinash012]

Enels attacks from the sky take time to charge up. A second is more than enough for mid tiers to dodge. Mid tiers don't even make top 60. So it's clear that someone of Zoro's caliber can dodge those attacks with ease.

Bro, U can dodge an attack pointing towords u but Lightning spam is different it covers a large amount of area I haven't seen anone dodging that kind of attacks in OP....

For example u can dodge Ace punch(Fire) but u can't dodge Fire spam ......

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

Bro, U can dodge an attack pointing towords u but Lightning spam is different it covers a large amount of area I haven't seen anone dodging that kind of attacks in OP....

For example u can dodge Ace punch(Fire) but u can't dodge Fire spam ......

You can't dodge spams?
Come again ?
[video=youtube;eGHzfTZ4Hj4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGHzfTZ4Hj4[/video]
Check out Zoro and Kuma!

Also that was without Haki. So because Kizaru's lasers are so explosive: if he spams them nobody can beat him? Your logic is very,very,very flawed.

 

[AllseeingSharingan]

CoO Haki and mantra is the same thing. You aren't past marineford dude. When Zoro's made of rubber? Reach faster than sound? Enies Lobby Zoro was already way faster than sound. Zoro's reaction and movement speed are both top notch. Enel doesn't have a bounty because he resides in Skypiea which practictally doesn't exist in the WG's eyes. Pre-gears Luffy was keeping up with Enel. If Enel was so good he would've beaten Luffy regardless him being made of rubber. Current Zoro blitzes Pre-skip Luffy and Enel.

Zoro has no problem landing a hit on Enel now. He has Haki and the speed. As soon as Zoro lands a hit it's over. Enel can't take a hit.

luffy being rubber had everything too do with it because everyone else tried and failed. Enel could just spam thunder attacks you don't understand lightning and he can predict movements. Whatever too different opinions and I also think Enel could beat a pacifista. When the straights first faced them.

 

[Fireplay]

luffy being rubber had everything too do with it because everyone else tried and failed. Enel could just spam thunder attacks you don't understand lightning and he can predict movements. Whatever too different opinions and I also think Enel could beat a pacifista. When the straights first faced them.

And that's because Pre-gears Luffy and the strawhats were weak. Enel lost to a weakling.

You still don't seem to understand that Zoro can also predict movements. Enel gets solo'd by a pacifista.

 

[AllseeingSharingan]

You can't dodge spams?
Come again ?
[video=youtube;eGHzfTZ4Hj4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eGHzfTZ4Hj4[/video]
Check out Zoro and Kuma!

Also that was without Haki. So because Kizaru's lasers are so explosive: if he spams them nobody can beat him? Your logic is very,very,very flawed.

Nice vid if that's Enel there fried from thunder just like they were when they faced him. There still the same strength from when they faced Enel. The difference is Enel fried them with thunder stopped all there movements. N kuma never wanted too kill them you know this. Post a vid where zoro n Sanji dodging Enel thunder bolt.

 

[AllseeingSharingan]

And that's because Pre-gears Luffy and the strawhats were weak. Enel lost to a weakling.

You still don't seem to understand that Zoro can also predict movements. Enel gets solo'd by a pacifista.

Your not understanding that luffy beat him cuz he was rubber. Do you understand the properties of rubber. It is an insulator. Thunder does.not effect it. Pacifistas run on electricity use your brain Enel solos an entire army of them. Pacifistas are conductors. Zoro will get fired no matter how small the voltage is. We know Enel predicts movements. Zoro n Sanji had no chance against him and they still dont. Not too mention Enel didn't even die he's still on his ship.