[Discussion] Zoro & Sanji Are Equals

[I'm stupid real stupid]

it's another way to say:

''Luffy and Law >> Zoro, suck on that fangirls ''

and ofc, I di it because I can and because I am right and mostly I said it because it's fun XD

Thank you for stating the obvious Mr.Ace can defeat Doflamingo even though Doflamingo baby shakes Ace

 

[xanonymosx]

Yeah you're so objective and I'm glad that you supervised all their training sessions.

What makes you think that Shichibukai Mihawk was there the entire timeskip, he probably had stuff to do.
What makes you think that Sanji only ran ? He also had to acquire 100 Okama recipies.
Zoro had 1 teacher, Sanji had a 100. Do you think you would learn more if you had the best teacher in the world or 99 good ones and 1 excellent teacher ?

he was runing from them and he had to beat them to get the recipies not learn from them
if he took the last recipe from iva by beating him that means one of tow things sanji didnt go all out yet (hard to tell cause he got owned twice without any hint of him trying to do somthing new ) or iva is not all that great plus what whould iva and the okamas teach him (beside haki cause it`s obvious that he learned it from iva ) ?
newkama kempo ?

 

[Olorin]

Thank you for stating the obvious Mr.Ace can defeat Doflamingo even though Doflamingo baby shakes Ace

if you think so that's completely ok with me

 

[Itachi Minato]

Please zoro fans stop. Your making zoro less likeable every second. I'm pretty sure no one takes aqeel seriously. Anyway zoro is slightly stronger. His characters pissing me off tho he needs to do something apart from one liners and one shots.

 

[I'm stupid real stupid]

Please zoro fans stop. Your making zoro less likeable every second. I'm pretty sure no one takes aqeel seriously. Anyway zoro is slightly stronger. His characters pissing me off tho he needs to do something apart from one liners and one shots.

Do you need any medicine to cure your sore butt? Becauce you're really butthurt

 

[Olorin]

Do you need any medicine to cure your sore butt? Becauce you're really butthurt

that doesn't even make any sense :/

@itachi Minato: you're right, no one takes aqueel seriously, he's the joke of the OP section

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[Love Cook]

he was runing from them and he had to beat them to get the recipies not learn from them
if he took the last recipe from iva by beating him that means one of tow things sanji didnt go all out yet (hard to tell cause he got owned twice without any hint of him trying to do somthing new ) or iva is not all that great plus what whould iva and the okamas teach him (beside haki cause it`s obvious that he learned it from iva ) ?
newkama kempo ?

You're even dumber than you're friend I just explained this to. It's one thing to not understand it the first time, but to make the same mistake twice is just retarded.

How are you going to question his training ? Were you there ? NO ! you also weren't there.

Timeskip was just plotdevice to strengthen the SH's, It really doesn't matter who was training who.

Also if the purpose is to defeat, and the only way to do that is to fight. Then the lesson is how to fight. Why you can't comprehend something as simple as that is beyond me. It also doesn't matter what Iva might have taught Sanji. He will come up with something like DJ as he did during Enies Lobby.

Strawhats get powerups and their teachers are just plotdevice to keep it believable. So that Oda can say later on haki came from Rayleigh, swordtech from mihawk and Sky walk from okamas. But it's bullshit to say that the one training was better than the other. Because Franky probably had the best upgrades and he didn't even had a teacher. There are also no hints given what happened during those 2 years and how much Mihawk was present during that time.

So once and for all, stop rating the training based on those 2 panels that we saw from each SH during TS.

Strawhats at

Do you need any medicine to cure your sore butt? Becauce you're really butthurt

Hey it's that guy that no one takes seriously

 

[I'm stupid real stupid]

that doesn't even make any sense :/

@itachi Minato: you're right, no one takes aqueel seriously, he's the joke of the OP section

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*Yawn* another day another rustled victim

Hey it's that guy that no one takes seriously

Hey its that guy who cant have a debate without insulting somebody

 

[xanonymosx]

You're even dumber than you're friend I just explained this to. It's one thing to not understand it the first time, but to make the same mistake twice is just retarded.

How are you going to question his training ? Were you there ? NO ! you also weren't there.

Timeskip was just plotdevice to strengthen the SH's, It really doesn't matter who was training who.

Also if the purpose is to defeat, and the only way to do that is to fight. Then the lesson is how to fight. Why you can't comprehend something as simple as that is beyond me. It also doesn't matter what Iva might have taught Sanji. He will come up with something like DJ as he did during Enies Lobby.

Strawhats get powerups and their teachers are just plotdevice to keep it believable. So that Oda can say later on haki came from Rayleigh, swordtech from mihawk and Sky walk from okamas. But it's bullshit to say that the one training was better than the other. Because Franky probably had the best upgrades and he didn't even had a teacher. There are also no hints given what happened during those 2 years and how much Mihawk was present during that time.

So once and for all, stop rating the training based on those 2 panels that we saw from each SH during TS.

when some one says i will train you the safe spot is assuming he will be with you , you are the one who is questioning so for me you are the one who is talking like he was there
btw you said it your self if this ts training is just a plotdevice how or how long dsnt matter cause oda is just using it as a plotdevice to justify thier powerups ...., i dont know a bout you but that seem like a double standard to me

best upgrade means best increase in power franky has many new toys after the time skip so what ?
1+1+2+1+1 = 6 < 5+10 = 15 how can you not understand that genius

 

[Tomato God]

Funny how this thread turned from a power-level difference between Zoro and Sanji into a Zoro bash thread because the thread got soloed in page2

So you are just gonna ignore Aqueer sanji bashing on page 1-5... yea... This is totally Zoro bashing.

 

[Bogard]

So you are just gonna ignore Aqueer sanji bashing on page 1-5... yea... This is totally Zoro bashing.

Aqeel is a confirmed troll. Dunno why people care that much about him. Did you see me complaining about Love Cook hating on Zoro? Nope because i could care less of his opinion since he is a confirmed Zoro hater and never hides it. It's just that i hate hypocrites

 

[Tomato God]

Aqeel is a confirmed troll. Dunno why people care that much about him. Did you see me complaining about Love Cook hating on Zoro? Nope because i could care less of his opinion since he is a confirmed Zoro hater and never hides it. It's just that i hate hypocrites

Alright just making sure we all knew the zoro fan boys started it.

 

[Love Cook]

Aqeel is a confirmed troll. Dunno why people care that much about him. Did you see me complaining about Love Cook hating on Zoro? Nope because i could care less of his opinion since he is a confirmed Zoro hater and never hides it. It's just that i hate hypocrites

Well there are two things wrong here:

1) I'm not a Zoro hater, please quote any segment of any post of mine where I bash on Zoro without argumentation. I guarantee you that you can't find any. If I point out flaws in his character I always have a good reason for it.

Don't forget that I catch the same kind of flack when it comes to Sabo or Vergo. I'm objective which seems a rare trait in this section. I'm not aligning myself to Zoro or Sanji camps. I do have a favorite, but I can participate in a discussion neutrally.

2) How can you be on the one hand someone who never hides it, and a hypocrite at the same time. You can't be the one if you are the other. If I would say I did the one thing but I would do the other, THEN i'm a hypocrite. But that's not me.

So piss off with your stupid accusations or bring me a post with senseless Zoro hate. If I say that Zoro's character has became worse over time that's called having an opinion. If I have good argumentation for that you could say it is a pretty good opinion but that doesn't make me a hater just because that guy happens to be you favorite. That's not my problem, it's yours.

Think back about how I was here a month or 2 ago with a very small group saying that Sabo has no chance in hell of defeating Fujitora. I was mocked and people said 'but he is dragons 2nd man bruh' Well look at me now. Mr. Wonderful is always right in the end.

 

[Bogard]

2) How can you be on the one hand someone who never hides it, and a hypocrite at the same time. You can't be the one if you are the other. If I would say I did the one thing but I would do the other, THEN i'm a hypocrite. But that's not me.

I wasn't referring to you with the hypocrite part. If you read carefully you'd have seen i was talking about the opening poster. I made no complain concerning your posts

 

[WhistleBlower]

This guy mothf*kin' gets it. Give this guy a cigarette.

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Are you saying the other stuff was crap

Lol No , not at all . Good read, but i dont like debating stuff. I prefer debating in the moot court when defending a client where i get paid . Debating here would be pointless and i dont get paid.

 

[Olorin]

Lol No , not at all . Good read, but i dont like debating stuff. I prefer debating in the moot court when defending a client where i get paid . Debating here would be pointless and i dont get paid.

Moot court, by definition, is a simulation and not defending an actual client for money

 

[Tomato God]

Moot court, by definition, is a simulation and not defending an actual client for money

Yea. Legal terms. HELL YEA!

 

[-Akuma-]

Oh and by the way M1 >>> M2. M2 himself mentions the fact M1 can kill him anytime he wants:

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Not to mention that despite being an unknown group, Zoro got a bounty for defeating M1, yet Sanji received no bounty for defeating M2. M1 was imprisoned in level4 in impel down. M2 was imprisoned in level3. When Crocodile wanted man-power, he decided to make M1 escape. It's someone even Crocodile respected. He never cared about the others including M2. You would have to be stupid not to see who is considered stronger. Even Zoro himself had to evolve during the battle to defeat him when Sanji defeated M2 at high difficulty at most

Even Zoro had to evolve during that battle to defeat him

It's funny how people take comedic/brotherly rivarly and use it as arguments

1- Buggy is a rival to Shanks
2- Apoo is rival to Kid
3- Jyabura is rival to Lucci
4- M2 is rival to M1

Kid > Apoo
Lucci >> Jyabura
M1 >>> M2
Shanks >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Buggy

I agree with the top part about Mr.1 vs Mr.2 in a real fight Mr,1 wins quite easily.

But half of these rivals ain't even 'rivals', the only one that might be rivals are Kidd and Apoo and if anything Kaku is Jaburya's rival. But I do think Zoro is stronger just not by alot.

 

[Sweet Pudding]

Zoro is stronger

 

[WhistleBlower]

Moot court, by definition, is a simulation and not defending an actual client for money

Well i'm still at University at the moment and we have to participate in moot courts alot.