Zetsu's Mayfly ability.

[HiddenShadowNinja]

I would like to suggest having a limit on how many times this can be used per battle. Like maybe 5 times per battle.

There are a few Zetsu bios popping up lately and as it is this jutsu can be used to avoid basically any attack. Not only that but it isn't trackable by either Sharingan or Byakugan. It's almost space/time jutsu in terms of speed and yet has no restrictions on it.

So again, I suggest a limit of 5 times per battle or at the very least a test to be able to have a Zetsu bio as with Minato.

 

[mangekyou sharingan]

actually there are ways toneutralize it and it cant block all the attacks

 

[Anbu578]

Well those bio are probabally Op which means a long-time member must possess it but still five times still could give the bio possessor the edge in a fight so I disagree to this

 

[HiddenShadowNinja]

Well those bio are probabally Op which means a long-time member must possess it but still five times still could give the bio possessor the edge in a fight so I disagree to this

Yea, 5 times is a good amount of times...but as it is they can use it infinitely.

 

[Anbu578]

Yea, 5 times is a good amount of times...but as it is they can use it infinitely.

well instead of making this thread try consulting a mod about this issue

 

[HiddenShadowNinja]

Oh. Well, I'm sure they'll want to all discuss it if it's even considered, so I thought a thread would be best. I apologize if it wasn't necessary.

 

[Anbu578]

Oh. Well, I'm sure they'll want to all discuss it if it's even considered, so I thought a thread would be best. I apologize if it wasn't necessary.

It's ok bro just think sometimes that's all

 

[aTastyCookie]

Can you post the move i can't find it in the jutsu list

 

[HiddenShadowNinja]

Can you post the move i can't find it in the jutsu list

Rank:A
Type:Supplementary
Range:Short/Mid/Long
Chakra cost:30
Damage points:N/A
Description: This technique allows the user to merge his body with the ground and plants and to move at very high speeds through the networks of roots and water veins.
This allows the user to conceal his presence completely,making it almost impossible to detect him.
Note:Only Zetsu and characters from Zetsu?s clan can use this.

 

[aTastyCookie]

wow thanks i agree that move is a little op it should have restrictions to like 4 times a battle also is that the only op move zetsu have because why would you take a test fro a zetsu bio just for one move.Just restrict the move thats it

 

[HiddenShadowNinja]

well, they can also "split" into the black and white halves an infinite amount of times, so that's like making a clone whenever you want. Or you could make clones and have them split. And since you can have up to 4 clones at once...that'd be 8 Zetsu's to face at one time.

 

[Emperor]

What ?
You people serious ?

Do you even know that there are no restrictions to friggin' Amaterasu/Tsukuyomi, or any of the abilities used by any other Akatsuki ?

Sure, there are tests, but there aren't restrictions.
And Zetsu's power is currently not enough for us to restrict the bio to take a test.
Perhaps if we see more of his abilities, we can restrict his bio and ask people to take tests.
Until then, I strongly oppose this ridiculous notion.

I admit I might be slightly biased on this issue, but considering that I've been using Zetsu from at least a friggin' year ago, I refuse to accept restrictions upon Zetsu's abilities alone whereas even PEIN doesn't have restrictions, only a test.
If this ridiculous idea passes, then my whole style of battling will go ka-put and I probably won't be motivated to fight anymore. U_U

 

[~KRF~]

I haven't been around here for some time, but in my opinion if there's just no way to beat the jutsu (like substitiution) then, yeah, it should be at least restricted, same goes for other OP jutsus (like Tsukuyomi and stuff, cause you're supposed to be out of chakra after using each of them once..), but if it's not like that then there's no need for any restrictions.

@Emperor I don't know that much about those jutsus of your's, but if they're are really OP that means you're motivated just, because you can win easily. Just sayin =/

 

[Emperor]

I haven't been around here for some time, but in my opinion if there's just no way to beat the jutsu (like substitiution) then, yeah, it should be at least restricted, same goes for other OP jutsus (like Tsukuyomi and stuff, cause you're supposed to be out of chakra after using each of them once..), but if it's not like that then there's no need for any restrictions.

@Emperor I don't know that much about those jutsus of your's, but if they're are really OP that means you're motivated just, because you can win easily. Just sayin =/

I understand what you're saying, but there are a few issues.
~ Mayfly is not unbeatable. In fact, if you just imagine a fast underground fish projection, you will get Mayfly. I should know, I've used it for a year.
Any technique that attacks the ground or people hiding underground will work beautifully to counter Mayfly and kill an underground person using it.
Also, Mayfly cannot be used offensively. That means Zetsu is vulnerable as he comes out of the ground.
Its also useless in certain types of terrain.
Lastly, it is pretty much useless against opponents capable of flight.
~ My issue is what we've seen of Zetsu does not warrant him getting a test...YET. Since he's Akatsuki, we will probably have to put a test in - just not now. So I'm saying we wait till we know his abilities and then enforce a stringent test to get the bio, thus ensuring the bio does not become OP.

 

[~KRF~]

I thought because it moves so fast it's more like substitution than underground projection, since it's not then yeah this jutsu is pretty normal.. Yet I still think all jutsus should cost more chakra

 

[Emperor]

I thought because it moves so fast it's more like substitution than underground projection, since it's not then yeah this jutsu is pretty normal.. Yet I still think all jutsus should cost more chakra

That's a completely different issue

 

[HiddenShadowNinja]

I understand what you're saying, but there are a few issues.
~ Mayfly is not unbeatable. In fact, if you just imagine a fast underground fish projection, you will get Mayfly. I should know, I've used it for a year.
Any technique that attacks the ground or people hiding underground will work beautifully to counter Mayfly and kill an underground person using it.Also, Mayfly cannot be used offensively. That means Zetsu is vulnerable as he comes out of the ground.
Its also useless in certain types of terrain.
Lastly, it is pretty much useless against opponents capable of flight.
~ My issue is what we've seen of Zetsu does not warrant him getting a test...YET. Since he's Akatsuki, we will probably have to put a test in - just not now. So I'm saying we wait till we know his abilities and then enforce a stringent test to get the bio, thus ensuring the bio does not become OP.

Well, if that's the case, then that's fine. But I thought it moved so fast you wouldn't even have time to do any jutsu or technique to the ground. By the time you blink Zetsu is wherever he wants to be. I know you would never use it this way, but my biggest issue with Mayfly is that it could be the only move you use. Mayfly to get out of the way of a jutsu, then Mayfly to get behind the opponent and attack, then Mayfly away agian. And repeat that process, successfully avioding anything your opponent tries to do for the whole battle.

And what about the spliting? And what I said about potentially being able to have 8 Zetsu's on the field at once. Maybe a restriction that if you split you can't use clones while you're seperated, or that your clones can't split.

 

[Emperor]

Well, if that's the case, then that's fine. But I thought it moved so fast you wouldn't even have time to do any jutsu or technique to the ground. By the time you blink Zetsu is wherever he wants to be. I know you would never use it this way, but my biggest issue with Mayfly is that it could be the only move you use. Mayfly to get out of the way of a jutsu, then Mayfly to get behind the opponent and attack, then Mayfly away agian. And repeat that process, successfully avioding anything your opponent tries to do for the whole battle.

And what about the spliting? And what I said about potentially being able to have 8 Zetsu's on the field at once. Maybe a restriction that if you split you can't use clones while you're seperated, or that your clones can't split.

"Mayfly to get behind the opponent and attack" O_____________O

How is anyone going to use it to attack ? Unless you count stuff like biting, which can be shocked by a Chidori Nagashi or sthg.

And I don't see you complaining about Kakuzu's FIVE lives, so this may be taken as an ability -__________-"""

 

[HiddenShadowNinja]

Well answer me this then, how long does it take Zetsu to come out of the ground after using Mayfly? Does a person have time to trun around and attack if it's short range, or is it like 1 second and Zetsu is ready to attack?

(And we aren't talking about other Akatsuki memebers right now, we're talking about Zetsu >.< Because with the others you need to be a Sensei, have the approval of Rei and Nexus, and have an expert battle to even maybe get Mangekyou sharingan. For Kakuzu, it's at least not that hard to kill him even if you have to do it 5 times, plus you have to reach Kage rank to even have the whole 5 hearts. Deidara's not a problem. For Kisame you need to be Kage rank and take a test and then can only absorb chakra 3 times and can only heal 3 times. And for Pein you have to pass a test.)

Zetsu's abilities are just as powerful in their own way as that of the other akatsuki members yet he has no restrictions while the others do.

 

[Emperor]

Well answer me this then, how long does it take Zetsu to come out of the ground after using Mayfly? Does a person have time to trun around and attack if it's short range, or is it like 1 second and Zetsu is ready to attack?

(And we aren't talking about other Akatsuki memebers right now, we're talking about Zetsu >.< Because with the others you need to be a Sensei, have the approval of Rei and Nexus, and have an expert battle to even maybe get Mangekyou sharingan. For Kakuzu, it's at least not that hard to kill him even if you have to do it 5 times, plus you have to reach Kage rank to even have the whole 5 hearts. Deidara's not a problem. For Kisame you need to be Kage rank and take a test and then can only absorb chakra 3 times and can only heal 3 times. And for Pein you have to pass a test.)

Zetsu's abilities are just as powerful in their own way as that of the other akatsuki members yet he has no restrictions while the others do.

Dude, if he wants to do a jutsu on you, you have enough time to counter it, no one's sayig you don't.
If he's trying to punch you, just shock him. O__________O
Jeez, i thought this was elementary.

I don't give a ___ if we were talking about Zetsu. Kakuzu - Don't talk like its simple to kill him. He can do five techniques simultaneously if required. Hell - if he makes four clones and splits them up - it will give him friggin twenty bodies.
Why the heck won't you see that of what we know of the Akatsuki, so far, Zetsu [ except probably Konan ] is the weakest, only functioning as a spy or diversion.

As far as my stance on it as an RP mod - I want to wait till all of Zetsu's abilities are shown, then we'll know how strong he is ad how many restrictions we need to place, not just jump in with some half-arsed restrictions already.