how would him doing his genjutsu before hammy does his wind blade break time frame? time frame rule states that the person has to let the first jutsu of a move happen, not the second
I agree with Zero on this and that the fight continues
ZeroG VS Hammy To the death...
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Hammy120290
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Well it's been agreed your leg is slashed. I'm now in a Gen...didnt peform the Wind Blade.
Realising almost straight away my chakra is being disrupted due to Gen I bite the tip of my tongue off releasing me.
I see your Senpuuken coming towards me obviously with your tags I use:
I simply direct the Senpuuken back towards you slowly with all the tags once this is headed in your direction I immediately use:
Which hits the wind and turns the Fire into an A rank technique and also ignites all the tag's creating a massive Fireball headed your way.
Once this is headed your way I finish you off with:
And this paralyzes you in place...and its either the constant shocking or the Fire that kills you...you can chose.
o_o; First off, have you ever received Genjutsu training?
If every Genjutsu was as easy to get out of just like that, then they're rather pointless.
The point of it is to take control of every five senses...and tricking it...rather then simply realizing what's going on. And it shouldn't be easy either. As manga evidence, it took a GREAT amount of control for Sasuke to stab himself with a kunai in order to disrupt Orochimaru's genjutsu. There should be at least some time before you can actually break free of a genjutsu.
If every Genjutsu was as easy to get out of just like that, then they're rather pointless.
The point of it is to take control of every five senses...and tricking it...rather then simply realizing what's going on. And it shouldn't be easy either. As manga evidence, it took a GREAT amount of control for Sasuke to stab himself with a kunai in order to disrupt Orochimaru's genjutsu. There should be at least some time before you can actually break free of a genjutsu.
This is a correct statement,
But catching people in a gen is harder than what zeroG made it seem...
Also, hammy is S-Class, he should have attleast just enough controll to bite his tongue just before the paper bombs hit.
(btw hamm, like your thinking)
And comparing moving an arm with a kunai to biting a tongue? xd
If it was S-Ranked hed be dead, but since hes S-Class, you should let this one go man. Attleast let the first genjutsu go. But the more time to do that part, aggreed.
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Okay, since you questiones my first move, i'll do the same with your second. Since the jutsu discription says, that you have to forform a series of handseals, and you will have to split the wind attack, since that would take a bit of time, and because of the vast amount of tags, i think they're close enough to atleast hurt you, and you seem to have forgotten about my kunai with tag, i threw towards you. The second you begin to split my wind attack, the kunai i threw before, has almost caught up to the mass of tags, so i activate both the kunais and all the tags, creating a gigantic chain explosion, that'll hurt you if not kill you, and if for some reason it doesn't hurt or kill you, it'll at least knock you over. This doesn't break the timeframe, since you actually perform the jutsu, but before you send my jutsu back, i explode the tags. Anyways, as the tags explode in a giant explosion (duh), i land on the ground long range away from you, and use.
(Suiton: Chakra Kenpa No Ame) - Water Style: Chakra Senseing Rain
Rank: C
Type: Supplementary
Range: Short-Long
Chakra cost: 15
Damage Points: N/A
Description: A downpour of rain will fall and anything with chakra that it touches the user can then sense their location and instantly know their whereabouts.
To make it rain all over the field, making me almost instantly know where you are, so i use.
(Katon: Keshi Makuga Hara) - Fire Release: Exploding Flame Crater
Rank: A
Type: Offense
Range: Long
Chakra Cost: 30
Damage Points: 60
Description: The user first stomps on the ground, making an underground tunnel form between themselves and the opponent. They then breathe out fire into the tunnel, causing the fire to turn into lava as it travels. With a single hand seal, the lava will erupt from the ground underneath the opponent, engulfing them in lava.
Because of the smoke you won't notice the lava until it's too late, and right after i've used the crater and breathed the fire, i use.
Fuuton: Tatsuno Ooshigoto (Wind Style: Severing Pressure)
Type:Attack
Rank: A
Range:Short-Mid
Chakra Cost:30
Damage Points:60
Description: The user sends wind into the sky to darken the clouds and make the envoronment stormy. These clouds will create These clouds will create a cutting tornado that comes down as a F-5 tornado with slicing wind.
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I send chakra into the air to create the F-5 tornado, use the link, it contain the scales...
BTW, it's either the tags lava or the tornado that kills you... you choose
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Scary Yamato
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Timeframe doest go out the window once the first move has been made. I'll be talking about this in the battle academy in the future for this very reason. To my understanding, Hammy began his second move as zero was flying backwards. Hammy's move only takes a flip of the arm to perform. If it took as many handsels as water dragon, then yeah, the genjutsu would have happened first, but it doesnt.
Genjutsu is created when a ninja extends their chakra flow through the cerebral nervous system of their opponent to control their mind's chakra, thereby affecting their five senses. So for Zero to perform a genjutsu (which requires a seal and has to send chakra all the way over to hammy's brain) after peforming a jutsu that happend after hammy's, all before hammy can swing his arm doesn't make sense to me.
I'm not playing favorites here, I'm just following logic.
This is a null point anyway since they have already moved on in the fight. I just wanted to explain that realistic perception of time extends past the first move.
Hammy120290
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This fight is a joke anyway.
You have broke timeframe and also I'm not even in a Genjutsu a few other things to.
Meh. I will get Roku or Cali to look over the fight I dunno if we should continue tbh as the fight is such a mess.
You have broke timeframe and also I'm not even in a Genjutsu a few other things to.
Meh. I will get Roku or Cali to look over the fight I dunno if we should continue tbh as the fight is such a mess.
So you'll just ignore Rag
.But i agree, the fight is a mess, but i do think it's funny, that you said you wanted a fight without arguing, and the first thing you do is argue, but neverhteless, i agree, the fight is too much of a mess.
Hammy120290
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And you'll just ignore SY?So you'll just ignore Rag
See I can do it too.
Caliburn has told me exactly how you broke timeframe and stated Rag was wrong.
But tbf it wasn't an obvious mistake.
Because of your 1st HF since you propelled yourself "at a 45 degree angle" you would have end up at Long Range anyway...so your Gen and 3rd jutsu wouldnt work.
I mean Mid range is 10m Long Range 15m. You used HF and you were ""flying" backwards" so your 2nd and 3rd jutsu didnt happen.
Also I have seen a vid of the Wind Blade and to make sure, not being biased to myself and trying to kill you in a "technicality", the jutsu is very quick and I believe SY is right...anyway its Mid-Range so it wouldnt work either.
But anyway...I will wait on Cali to post here and clarify all the mistakes etc and I'm not sure if its worth continuing if the fight is as much of a mess as i think it is.
Hammy120290
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With good reason lmao.
As you said the fights a mess.
Arguing is going to happen in any fight.
What I meant was I didnt want to argue with YOU.
Which is why I got Sensei's and a Mod to look over the moves...instead of me arguing directly with you.
You're always so funny to read Hammy, i laugh every time, but enough funny business, i've got things on my mind, and i don't really care about this fight anymore, but you may judge why that is for yourself.
Hammy120290
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Because your an attention seeking tw@?
Why else would you be saying "I've got things on my mind, and I don't really care."
No one needs to know you have problems unless you want the sympathy...
Anyway. We will fight again when you feel better little emo boy.