Zaheer Or Sasuke: Which Revolutionist is better?

[V h o]

That may mean a lot of things, if you look at nature, it is inherently chaotic, a will to survive creates situations where it resembles order, but it is not order. Like I said, he likely wants humans to live as spirits do, especially considering his spirituality.

A world where to strong survive and the weak die, doesn't sound ideal to me. Not sure where this spirit thing is coming from, but since the red lotus' goals are unclear I want deny it.

 

[Darth Uchiha]

Yeah we are talking about revolutionist here correct? If he wanted to destroy Kohona, than why did he not do it when he was in Kohona while talking to the four Hokages? Do you not feel he has some form of change now?

So what, a **** goes from being one type of **** to another type of ****, he suddenly deserves a medal?

 

[HiddenSound]

Naturally, most people voted for Zaheer.

Sasuke's Revolution and ideals pales in comparison to Zaheer's

Maybe, or maybe you haven't even seen what his revolution is, you fool.

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

That Sasuke existed just 3 or so hours ago, and this Sasuke aspires to be a tyrant, gee, he sure is a good man!

I am not trying to say he is a good man. All I am saying is to stop comparing that old Sasuke to this new one. We are talking about this new one who wants to change the world. He is not all bad since, all he is doing is trying to change the world in his own way. Now his ways of doing it is bad of course.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

A world where to strong survive and the weak die, doesn't sound ideal to me. Not sure where this spirit thing is coming from, but since the red lotus' goals are unclear I want deny it.

Thats the basis of natural selection. That's exactly how every living thing in this world evolved.

 

[KingHashirama]

That may mean a lot of things, if you look at nature, it is inherently chaotic, a will to survive creates situations where it resembles order, but it is not order. Like I said, he likely wants humans to live as spirits do, especially considering his spirituality.

we are not nature. We are humans, we have emotions, we have feelings, we have reasoning, we have higher brains, we have superior logic. If one kills a person you adore, you grow to resent that person. Unless you have a code or a self-control, which then would mean the world is not in a dis-order.

THere will always be need for leaders. Whether you want to justify Zaheer is none of my business.... However, don't imply it is something we need in our lives. Go look at the purge, that is what humans can potentially come to.

The very friend who sits next to you in class or a worker who is working with you can turn on you, if we did not have a society with law. We are humans, we are not animals. THere is something that seperates us from them.

disorder: a state of confusion.
order: a : a group of people united in a formal way: as (1) : a fraternal society <the Masonic Order> (2) : a community under a religious rule; especially : one requiring members to take solemn vows

Balance requires order, there is no balance in disorder.

 

[To Whatever]

Why am i on this thread
See my Sig and compare them with ur hypocritic posts on the thread.
unlike u i don't change my posts to fit the situations

What are you talking about? How is it hypocritical?

-Sasuke's revolution isn't bratty. yes
-12-16 year olds dont have the balls to do what hes doing. yes
- His revolution and ideals pales in comparison to Zaheer's. yes

You can leave now if you don't wish to debate the OT.

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

So what, a **** goes from being one type of **** to another type of ****, he suddenly deserves a medal?

You are now reaching troll heights. I don't understand people like you who would go as far as to hate a character like this. What has Sasuke done to you man?

 

[Vapid]

Amon > all. Stop debating about it.

 

[Darth Uchiha]

What are you talking about? How is it hypocritical?

-Sasuke's revolution isn't bratty. yes
-12-16 year olds dont have the balls to do what hes doing. yes
- His revolution and ideals pales in comparison to Zaheer's. yes

You can leave now if you don't wish to debate the OT.

You're wrong, 12 year olds don't have the capacity to do what he's doing...whiny, emo teenagers do.

 

[Darth Uchiha]

You are now reaching troll heights. I don't understand people like you who would go as far as to hate a character like this. What has Sasuke done to you man?

-Have an annoying, obsessive fanbase that practically worships him
-Derails every thread on the base
-Gets constant wank threads despite not even doing much
-Gets pity thrown at him for being a **** while Gaara, Madara, Obito, and Naruto all had worse lives than he did

 

[KingHashirama]

This thread ended rofl. Zaheer fanboys only insulting Sasuke fanbase now, for putting up the points. Holy sh*t dawg.


(if anyone was offended with any of my posts i apologize)

 

[V h o]

Thats the basis of natural selection. That's exactly how every living thing in this world evolved.

Yeah I'm aware with natural selection, but its premise is something I don't agree with. What stops me from becoming one of the "weak"? What if the "weak" have new things to offer to the world? What if their ideals help improve the world?

 

[To Whatever]

This thread ended rofl. Zaheer fanboys only insulting Sasuke fanbase now, for putting up the points. Holy sh*t dawg.

The only person doing any fanbase bashing is darth.

Stop generalizing.

If it's ended for you, please leave now.

 

[Darth Uchiha]

we are not nature. We are humans, we have emotions, we have feelings, we have reasoning, we have higher brains, we have superior logic. If one kills a person you adore, you grow to resent that person. Unless you have a code or a self-control, which then would mean the world is not in a dis-order.

THere will always be need for leaders. Whether you want to justify Zaheer is none of my business.... However, don't imply it is something we need in our lives. Go look at the purge, that is what humans can potentially come to.

The very friend who sits next to you in class or a worker who is working with you can turn on you, if we did not have a society with law. We are humans, we are not animals. THere is something that seperates us from them.

disorder: a state of confusion.
order: a : a group of people united in a formal way: as (1) : a fraternal society <the Masonic Order> (2) : a community under a religious rule; especially : one requiring members to take solemn vows

Balance requires order, there is no balance in disorder.

The only thing that separates humans from animals is arrogance and an obsessive need to be special. Also, the Purge would only be possible if all humans were sociopaths at their core, which is not the case, either way, I don't really know what the point of that whole "Purge" tangent was.

 

[Vapid]

This thread ended rofl. Zaheer fanboys only insulting Sasuke fanbase now, for putting up the points. Holy sh*t dawg.


(if anyone was offended with any of my posts i apologize)

Zaheer is simply the better revolutionist.

Sasuke is just a butthurt manchild.

 

[BLAZE]

What are you talking about? How is it hypocritical?

-Sasuke's revolution isn't bratty. yes
-12-16 year olds dont have the balls to do what hes doing. yes
- His revolution and ideals pales in comparison to Zaheer's. yes

You can leave now if you don't wish to debate the OT.

yes and so :_

Sasuke pales in comparison to Zaheer. He's a true revolutionist.

and Sasuke is not a true revolutionist.is he bratty

Sasuke is planning to kill all leaders as well but he's trying to place himself above it all and rule.

Zaheer isn't. He freed Ba sing from oppression and left them to their own devices.

Also, Zaheer isn't a maniac. Otherwise he wouldn't of been able to fly. He wasn't a pawn either.

because he was leading multiple red lotus members in the final episode.

guess wut dat is the thing a person who is not a true leader aka bratty self ego does

and i won't be posting anything on this thread until someone provokes me

 

[KingHashirama]

The only person doing any fanbase bashing is darth.

Stop generalizing.

If it's ended, you can leave now.

why do you feel that plural means "all". lol.


Of course I have to leave, cause there are no good arguments. Its not even on topic.

Everything regarding zaheer has been put down...

Zaheer is simply the better revolutionist.

Sasuke is just a butthurt manchild.

Zaheer isn't a revolutionist. He believes in no revolution, no system. . Revolution requires you to bring in a system replacing the old one. Zaheer is not doing that. He is anti-system.

 

[Darth Uchiha]

The only person doing any fanbase bashing is darth.

Stop generalizing.

If it's ended for you, please leave now.

I'm not even bashing, the problem is, a certain fanbase refuses to ever use logical arguments and derails half the threads I'm on with extreme hypocrisy and bias.

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

-Have an annoying, obsessive fanbase that practically worships him
-Derails every thread on the base
-Gets constant wank threads despite not even doing much
-Gets pity thrown at him for being a **** while Gaara, Madara, Obito, and Naruto all had worse lives than he did

-Has nothing to do with Sasuke.
-Has nothing to do with Sasuke.
-Has nothing to do with Sasuke.
-Has nothing to do with Sasuke.

None of what you said has anything to do with Sasuke. It all has to do with the fan base. So hate on the fan base and not the character. Other wise you are doing nothing but character bashing.

OT: You could put any dude in front of Sasuke and call it a better revolution. He has not done anything besides seal the bijuu's as of now.