Zaheer Or Sasuke: Which Revolutionist is better?

Who is the better Revolutionist


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KingHashirama

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First off, what do you think his new system will be? Hmm, what, unicorns farting rainbows and a magic dragon protecting everyone? A lot of you Sasuke fans are even more idealistic than Naruto fans, if you honestly think Sasuke will implement a fair or even free society. Also, I wouldn't call plotting genocide, wanting to kill someone almost every second of your life, and ranting at your recently deceased brother while proclaiming joy at having killed someone as signs of a stable mind.
I don't know i'm not kishimoto , now am i.

Are you kishimoto? Do you know what hes gonna do? don't think so.

So stop making up this fan-fiction plan about sasuke after his leadership, and go with what he has stated. He wants to abolish the old system and create a new one, where crap like the genocide won't happen. THat is his plan in the manga right now. Anything else i do not care about.

We are comparing cannon to canon. Not fan-fiction to Canon.

And i'm really tired of that poor ass of an excuse "Fart rainbows and magical dragons".. is this the best you can think of when people say peace? Did Gandhi want unicorns? Did MLK want unicorns?


Furthermore, where did you get i support Sasuke compared to Naruto? This thread is about a maniac who believes Chaos is the best way to live, and a guy who believes there should be a system. I'm obviouslly gonna go with the one with a clear system in his mind.
 
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Naturally, most people voted for Zaheer.

Sasuke's Revolution and ideals pales in comparison to Zaheer's
 

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Lord Sasuke>Itachi>Madara>even Obito> your fav
What part of "I don't have a fav" don't you understand? The manga is garbage at this point. All of the characters have been reduced to shit
yes Danzo wannabe u sure would

I will not acknowledge you until you learn proper sentence structure. Degenerate. Probably an Untouchable in India
 

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I don't know i'm not kishimoto , now am i.

Are you kishimoto? Do you know what hes gonna do? don't think so.

So stop making up this fan-fiction plan about sasuke after his leadership, and go with what he has stated. He wants to abolish the old system and create a new one, where crap like the genocide won't happen. THat is his plan in the manga right now. Anything else i do not care about.

We are comparing cannon to canon. Not fan-fiction to Canon.

Knowing Sasuke, do you honestly think he'd replace the current system with anything good? Knowing his track record? Also, he refuses to understand that people need to change, not the system, it wasn't just the system that got the Uchiha killed, it was the Uchiha themselves.
 

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Sigh...look, if you want to debate me, use an actual, well though out argument, if you plan on just trolling all of my posts I will not reply.

i m not here debate on why one Bull$#!t revolution>other Bull$#!t revolution.
Just don't sprout made up fanfics about chars
 

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i m not here debate on why one Bull$#!t revolution>other Bull$#!t revolution.
Just don't sprout made up fanfics about chars

Then why are you even in this thread.

Leave if you lack the capacity to discuss and debate this topic.
 

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I wasn't even referring to the kages, I meant the citizens of Konoha, who he wanted to kill a couple hours ago (manga time).

I don't remember him saying he wanted to kill innocent citizens. I don't know where you got that from?
 

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Zaheer: "True freedom only exists when political institutions are disbanded."

Zaheer: "Natural order is Disorder"
 
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I don't remember him saying he wanted to kill innocent citizens. I don't know where you got that from?

He at one point wanted to destroy all of konoha. Innocent and non-innocent people. Not now, but still. I'm pretty sure any resistance to his ideals will be met with no mercy. I.E. Sasuke getting ready to fight Naruto.
 

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The thing is, the Earth Kingdom/ Ba Sing Se was in such disarray because of how long they'd be oppressed/repressed, dating all the way back to the 100 Year War, I doubt he actually wanted wanton violence and people slaughtering each other in the streets, I imagine he envisioned people living together as the spirits did.

I literally recall him saying true order is disorder. The red lotus' goals for doing this is still unclear but destroying systems just for it to be replaced with "natural order" isn't right imo.
 

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Then why are you even in this thread.

Leave if you lack the capacity to discuss and debate this topic.
Why am i on this thread
See my Sig and compare them with ur hypocritic posts on the thread.
unlike u i don't change my posts to fit the situations
 

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Zaheer: "True freedom can only be achieved when oppressive governments are torn down."


( Chief bei fong i believe): But that won’t bring balance. It will throw the world into a chaos.

Zaheer: Exactly. The natural order is disorder.


All these Zaheer Fanboys, comparing this maniac to AMON.... a guy who actually had a plan on what he was going to do.... please just stop.

revolution : a forcible overthrow of a government or social order in favor of a new system.

^^^^^ Zaheer is anti-revolutionary. He will kill anyone who brings a new social order or a government.


Revolutionary: a person who works for or engages in political revolution.
 
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Where were you after the Itachi Pursuit Arc?

Where were you at the time he talked with the Kage's and came up with the plan of a Revolution later? That Sasuke and this Sasuke are completely different! Take your hate bubble out of your socket and start thinking rationally for once!
 

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I literally recall him saying true order is disorder. The red lotus' goals for doing this is still unclear but destroying systems just for it to be replaced with "natural order" isn't right imo.

That may mean a lot of things, if you look at nature, it is inherently chaotic, a will to survive creates situations where it resembles order, but it is not order. Like I said, he likely wants humans to live as spirits do, especially considering his spirituality.
 

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Where were you at the time he talked with the Kage's and came up with the plan of a Revolution later? That Sasuke and this Sasuke are completely different! Take your hate bubble out of your socket and start thinking rationally for once!

That Sasuke existed just 3 or so hours ago, and this Sasuke aspires to be a tyrant, gee, he sure is a good man!
 

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Zaheer has been busted. Anyone who is actually supporting him, saying he has a better plan, must really like an anarchy society. Furthermore, didn't know just killing leaders , is better than having a plan to build a better system.
 

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He at one point wanted to destroy all of konoha. Innocent and non-innocent people. Not now, but still. I'm pretty sure any resistance to his ideals will be met with no mercy. I.E. Sasuke getting ready to fight Naruto.

Yeah we are talking about revolutionist here correct? If he wanted to destroy Kohona, than why did he not do it when he was in Kohona while talking to the four Hokages? Do you not feel he has some form of change now?
 
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