Your three favourite Kekkei Genkai (Excluding Doujutsu)

[BlacLord™]

guys dust release is a kkt not a kkg lol

We can let that slip through the net, haha...

 

[Dantee]

Blaze
Ice
Bone

 

[Invsblphntm]

Blaze
Ice
Bone

 

[MeiMaMan]

Only certain KKG are bloodline traits, like the Sharingan or Shikotsumyaku but most are just from people being born with two chakra nature affinites instead of one - this is just chance rather than genetical...

By that logic, wouldn't Sasuke (Fire + Lightning) and Kakashi (multiple affinities) and Sarutobi (Fire +Earth) have elemental KKG as well??? Also, how about Onoki? If he can use a Kekkei Tota, conprising Fire+Earth+Wind (meaning he possess those 3 elemental affinities), why can't he use Lava release (Fire+Earth) or Scorch release (Fire+Wind) as well then?

Kekkei Genkai IS NOT simply about possessing more than one elemental affinity; it's about being able to combine chakra natures to form a new kind of element. Many shinobi are born with more than 1 elemental affinity BUT not all can use kekkei genkai because they do not possess the GENETIC ability to combine the elements (Pls note: combining them like Yamato and Naruto did collaboratively against Kakuzu doesn't count. When they combined water and wind they got some vortex thingy; a true Kekkei genkai will yield ICE from water and wind.).

Please get the difference.

To answer your question: I like Lava and Boil Release.

 

[KGB Kakuzu]

Ice release

Crystal release

Either Magma or Kimmimaru's Bone release (long and hard to spell for me lol)

 

[Slug Princess Tsunade]

Mokuton
Lava
Ice

 

[BlacLord™]

By that logic, wouldn't Sasuke (Fire + Lightning) and Kakashi (multiple affinities) and Sarutobi (Fire +Earth) have elemental KKG as well???

Kekkei Genkai IS NOT simply about possessing more than one elemental affinity; it's about being able to combine chakra natures to form a new kind of element. Many shinobi are born with more than 1 elemental affinity BUT not all can use kekkei genkai because they do not possess the GENETIC ability to combine the elements (Pls note: combining them like Yamato and Naruto did collaboratively against Kakuzu doesn't count. When they combined water and wind they got some vortex thingy; a true Kekkei genkai will yield ICE from water and wind.).

Please get the difference.

To answer your question: I like Lava and Boil Release.

Being born with more than one nature is different from learning to use another in life. Kakashi only had Lightning before he got the Sharingan. Sasuke was born with both Fire and Lightning but didn't know he had it before the Litmus test, that's partly how his Enton is formed.

 

[MeiMaMan]

Being born with more than one nature is different from learning to use another in life. Kakashi only had Lightning before he got the Sharingan. Sasuke was born with both Fire and Lightning but didn't know he had it before the Litmus test, that's partly how his Enton is formed.

1) Enton is a derivative ability of the Sharingan. There is not evidence that it is Fire+Lightning => if that's the case shouldn't Itachi also have a lightning affinity as well?

2) You do not 'learn' an affinity; you are born with one. Check the definition of affinity, please.

3) Being able to 'learn' an affinity goes against the meaning of a KKG itself; as mentioned countless times in the manga and by other NBers, a KKG is a GENETIC ability that can ONLY be inherited.

 

[Lana Del Taka]

blaze release
boil release
swift release

 

[Lightbringer]

Mokuton

Blaze

Dust

 

[BlacLord™]

1) Enton is a derivative ability of the Sharingan. There is not evidence that it is Fire+Lightning => if that's the case shouldn't Itachi also have a lightning affinity as well?

2) You do not 'learn' an affinity; you are born with one. Check the definition of affinity, please.

3) Being able to 'learn' an affinity goes against the meaning of a KKG itself; as mentioned countless times in the manga and by other NBers, a KKG is a GENETIC ability that can ONLY be inherited.

1)Itachi doesn't have Enton, he cannot manipulate them, he can only shoot the flames to an area, he cannot re-shape them.

2)Read what I wrote properly. I never once used the word affinity in the last post. Normally, people are born with one affinity to a chakra nature but in some circumstances are born with two, even rarer, three.

Two affinities - Kekkei Genkai.
Three affinities - Kekkei Tota.

3) People can learn to use other chakra natures throughout their lives through various means, Kakashi using his Sharingan is the most well known example. Advanced Natures are rarely derived from genetic lineage. Dojutsu like the Byakugan are genetic abilites that can only be inherited, but Advanced Natures which are Kekkei Genkai occur when someone is born with 2+ chakra natures, like Sasuke's Enton or Mei's Fuuton. One cannot inherit an Advanced Nature if they have only one natural affinity.

 

[EdoTrollkage]

ice
lava
boil

 

[koolsmooch]

Gale release lava release and gurens crystal stuff

 

[Retsu]

ice, storm, and lava

 

[MeiMaMan]

1)Itachi doesn't have Enton, he cannot manipulate them, he can only shoot the flames to an area, he cannot re-shape them.

2)Read what I wrote properly. I never once used the word affinity in the last post. Normally, people are born with one affinity to a chakra nature but in some circumstances are born with two, even rarer, three.

Two affinities - Kekkei Genkai.
Three affinities - Kekkei Tota.

3) People can learn to use other chakra natures throughout their lives through various means, Kakashi using his Sharingan is the most well known example. Advanced Natures are rarely derived from genetic lineage. Dojutsu like the Byakugan are genetic abilites that can only be inherited, but Advanced Natures which are Kekkei Genkai occur when someone is born with 2+ chakra natures, like Sasuke's Enton or Mei's Fuuton. One cannot inherit an Advanced Nature if they have only one natural affinity.

1) Yes you are right. BUT, this still doesn't prove that Enton is a Fire+Lightning elemental KKG.

2) Yes I think we both agree that people are born with chakra natures. Learnt elements are not chakra natures.

3) May I refer you to this quote from Narutopedia:

"Kekkei genkai (血継限界; Literally meaning "a technique limited to inheritance by blood" or "Bloodline Limit") are abilities passed down genetically"
​

That means Kekkei Genkai can only be inherited genetically. 'Inheriting' chakra natures is not the same as inheriting a Kekkei Genkai. There are instances where you inherit both, but a person who does not inherit a KKG cannot use a KKG. Basically, it is not possible for a person born with several chakra natures to use KKG without inheriting the specific KKG at the same time.

If we just look at shinobi with multiple natures, i think it will be clear that your claim is untenable.

For example,

a)Onoki: Has 3 chakra natures (Fire, earth, wind) which allows him the use of Kekkei Tota. If, like you say, anyone with more than 1 nature can use KKG, why can't Onoki use Scorch release (Fire + Wind), or Lava release (Fire + Earth)? Does he not have the requisite natures?? Now the issue with Kekkei Tota is a little confusing, and I believe there is no final verdict on whether a Kekkei Tota is inherited or learnt, since Onoki 'learnt' it from Mu. Still standing by my theory that only users born with KKG (not just multiple natures) can use advanced natures, I believe that Onoki was born with the Kekkei Tota, Jin Ton, but Mu simply trained him to use it.. Training and teaching are different, i hope you realize.

b)Mei: Mei has 3 chakra natures like Onoki (Fire, Earth, Water). Again, why can't she use Wood release (Earth + Water) then? Because she doesn't have the KKG needed for those advanced natures; she cannot fuse them. However, she can use Boil and Lava release because she was born with the requisite KKG for those advanced natures.

It really is simple. 2 things (or genes, if you will) are needed for a person to wield a KKG:
i) a KKG gene (which allows the fusion of elemental natures within the body)
ii) genes that give you multiple affinities such as in Mei's and Onoki's case.

As for being able to articficially implant KKG, well, this only works for KKG that are specific to body parts. May i refer you to this quote from Narutopedia again:

"Kekkei genkai and their related techniques cannot be taught to or copied by others. However, kekkei genkai can be given to others. Dōjutsu, or other kekkei genkai isolated to a single organ, can be transplanted into the body of another, as was done with transferring Obito's Sharingan to Kakashi."​

A better example for you to use to try to disprove my claim is Danzo. Danzo artificially implanted Hashirama's DNA into his body so that he can use wood release. I can still argue against this. If like you say, a KKG is simply a matter of multiple natures, then, since Danzo now has wood release (remember, water + earth) from Hashirama, why can't he use water and earth release separately then, like Yamato could? It's simple. He implanted only the KKG gene, not the 'multiple natures gene' => having multiple natures is not enough to get a KKG.

This is what you think, ie: Shinobi born with multiple affinities get KKG.
What i think: Shinobi born with KKG get multiple affinities, but some can be born with multiple affinities alone, without KKG.

VERDICT: A KKG is the genetic ability to fuse specific chakra natures to form advanced chakra natures. It is not enough to merely possess multiple chakra natures because you lack the ability to fuse them.

Think about it this way: How do you make a cake? With flour, water and eggs (Imagine these are 3 basic elements).

But does the simply mixing of these ingredients make a cake? It doesn't! Because in order to successfully create a cake out of flour, eggs and water, you need heat. The KKG gene is the heat; it is the catalyst, the one that fuses disparate ingredients together to form a new element.

That is all. Thank you for providing reasonable arguments.

 

[soyeongun]

2) Explosion Releasexd

 

[BlacLord™]

1) Yes you are right. BUT, this still doesn't prove that Enton is a Fire+Lightning elemental KKG.

2) Yes I think we both agree that people are born with chakra natures. Learnt elements are not chakra natures.

3) May I refer you to this quote from Narutopedia:

"Kekkei genkai (血継限界; Literally meaning "a technique limited to inheritance by blood" or "Bloodline Limit") are abilities passed down genetically"
​

That means Kekkei Genkai can only be inherited genetically. 'Inheriting' chakra natures is not the same as inheriting a Kekkei Genkai. There are instances where you inherit both, but a person who does not inherit a KKG cannot use a KKG. Basically, it is not possible for a person born with several chakra natures to use KKG without inheriting the specific KKG at the same time.

If we just look at shinobi with multiple natures, i think it will be clear that your claim is untenable.

For example,

a)Onoki: Has 3 chakra natures (Fire, earth, wind) which allows him the use of Kekkei Tota. If, like you say, anyone with more than 1 nature can use KKG, why can't Onoki use Scorch release (Fire + Wind), or Lava release (Fire + Earth)? Does he not have the requisite natures?? Now the issue with Kekkei Tota is a little confusing, and I believe there is no final verdict on whether a Kekkei Tota is inherited or learnt, since Onoki 'learnt' it from Mu. Still standing by my theory that only users born with KKG (not just multiple natures) can use advanced natures, I believe that Onoki was born with the Kekkei Tota, Jin Ton, but Mu simply trained him to use it.. Training and teaching are different, i hope you realize.

b)Mei: Mei has 3 chakra natures like Onoki (Fire, Earth, Water). Again, why can't she use Wood release (Earth + Water) then? Because she doesn't have the KKG needed for those advanced natures; she cannot fuse them. However, she can use Boil and Lava release because she was born with the requisite KKG for those advanced natures.

It really is simple. 2 things (or genes, if you will) are needed for a person to wield a KKG:
i) a KKG gene (which allows the fusion of elemental natures within the body)
ii) genes that give you multiple affinities such as in Mei's and Onoki's case.

As for being able to articficially implant KKG, well, this only works for KKG that are specific to body parts. May i refer you to this quote from Narutopedia again:

"Kekkei genkai and their related techniques cannot be taught to or copied by others. However, kekkei genkai can be given to others. Dōjutsu, or other kekkei genkai isolated to a single organ, can be transplanted into the body of another, as was done with transferring Obito's Sharingan to Kakashi."​

A better example for you to use to try to disprove my claim is Danzo. Danzo artificially implanted Hashirama's DNA into his body so that he can use wood release. I can still argue against this. If like you say, a KKG is simply a matter of multiple natures, then, since Danzo now has wood release (remember, water + earth) from Hashirama, why can't he use water and earth release separately then, like Yamato could? It's simple. He implanted only the KKG gene, not the 'multiple natures gene' => having multiple natures is not enough to get a KKG.

This is what you think, ie: Shinobi born with multiple affinities get KKG.
What i think: Shinobi born with KKG get multiple affinities, but some can be born with multiple affinities alone, without KKG.

VERDICT: A KKG is the genetic ability to fuse specific chakra natures to form advanced chakra natures. It is not enough to merely possess multiple chakra natures because you lack the ability to fuse them.

Think about it this way: How do you make a cake? With flour, water and eggs (Imagine these are 3 basic elements).

But does the simply mixing of these ingredients make a cake? It doesn't! Because in order to successfully create a cake out of flour, eggs and water, you need heat. The KKG gene is the heat; it is the catalyst, the one that fuses disparate ingredients together to form a new element.

That is all. Thank you for providing reasonable arguments.

If, as you say, Onoki has it genetically, then he would be related to Muu, wouldn't he? As you quoted "a technique limited to inheritance by blood", Onoki by that logic, must be blood descendant of Muu. As for your point of why can't ... use ....? Think about it this way, each Shinobi who is born with a certain set of affinites is automatically linked to a Kekkei Genkai, the Kekkei Genkai is something created when a person with two affinities combines those natures. It takes certain matchups to get certain Kekkei Genkai.

 

[Sunagura]

scorch release
swift release
sand?

 

[BlacLord™]

scorch release
swift release
sand?

Sand isn't one.. :/

 

[Eternal Moonless Sky]

Storm, Lava and Blaze. Also, like someone above already said, Blaze Release probably isn't a mix of Fire and Lightning natures, maybe it is, but I doubt. I think that it could be a mix of Fire and Yin Release, or maybe Yang, who knows.