Young Nagato with healthy legs was most probably faster then Prime Hanzo

[KingHashirama]

-sigh- because it clearly shows him being on foot? He came from under Bee and then got behind him.....the animal couldn't have carried him under Bee because the animal was almost as big as gamabunta


I love it when you still debate against illegitimate proof

So now your saying he was on his foot.. but before he was using S/T?

I didn't say the animal could carry him under B... I said the Animal could've carried and he could've jumped off. Which is the most reasonable thing. Not to mention why the hell are we even counting Edo Nagato? When Living Nagato has no feats like that.

 

[Lightbringer]

So now your saying he was on his foot.. but before he was using S/T?

I didn't say the animal could carry him under B... I said the Animal could've carried and he could've jumped off. Which is the most reasonable thing. Not to mention why the hell are we even counting Edo Nagato? When Living Nagato has no feats like that.

so he jumped underneath Bee from on top of a hulking animal? That doesn't make sense

living Nagato spent most of his time utilizing the 6 paths, that doesn't mean he couldn't do what he did as an edo.

His edo body is the same body he died with, so he's able to do exactly what he did alive.

This wasn't spamming jutsu, this was him moving with his body. Edo's are still limited physically

 

[blazekev90]

You called yourself a legit debater after the bs you posted against me?



-sigh- "your lying for the sake of being right".. I can say the same for you. Hence why you shouldn't assume stuff.

When did he get off the animal? Why couldn't have the animal carried him there?



Really? Cause I was the first one to openly say Obito >> Hashirama. . And why is this coming from the guy who gets butthurt alot?

Butthurt by who? Better yet, butthurt about what? Boy sit, no one is entertaining you and your foolishness.

@Blaze, obviously is the scans presented Nagato's speed above the average shinobo, stop it.

 

[KingHashirama]

Butthurt by who? Better yet, butthurt about what? Boy sit, no one is entertaining you and your foolishness.

@Blaze, obviously is the scans presented Nagato's speed above the average shinobo, stop it.

Getting butthurt when someone talks down to the character you so preciously like. Just like the P3IN chump =].

so he jumped underneath Bee from on top of a hulking animal? That doesn't make sense

living Nagato spent most of his time utilizing the 6 paths, that doesn't mean he couldn't do what he did as an edo.

His edo body is the same body he died with, so he's able to do exactly what he did alive.

This wasn't spamming jutsu, this was him moving with his body. Edo's are still limited physically

Highly false actually. Because as I recall the cripple Nagato when he was alive didn't have that agility. While the Edo did. Not to mention movement is dependent on the stress on the body.Edos have no stress.... Remember it is because he was crippled that he brought out the Gedo Mazo.

So your denying the possiblity that the animal carried him there and then Nagato used Iruka level speed to get under them?

 

[P3ĮÑ]

You called yourself a legit debater after the bs you posted against me?

Well everyone on the base knows ur not one .__.

What bs did I post, I never got any negative comment from anyone :|

 

[KingHashirama]

Well everyone on the base knows ur not one .__.

Apparently better then the guy who has 27k posts yet acts like a noob and a troll. On top of that can't provide decent debates. And then starts insulting others when his logic his challenged.. =].

Atleast the guy with 4k posts is providing evidence and something to go on. While you and OT gave us literally Sh*t.

 

[blazekev90]

Getting butthurt when someone talks down to the character you so preciously like. Just like the P3IN chump =].


Highly false actually. Because as I recall the cripple Nagato when he was alive didn't have that agility. While the Edo did. Not to mention movement is dependent on the stress on the body.Edos have no stress.... Remember it is because he was crippled that he brought out the Gedo Mazo.

So your denying the possiblity that the animal carried him there and then Nagato used Iruka level speed to get under them?

Previously like? Nagato isn't even in my top 5 favorite characters, i just liked the avatar lol

 

[Lightbringer]

Highly false actually. Because as I recall the cripple Nagato when he was alive didn't have that agility. While the Edo did. Not to mention movement is dependent on the stress on the body.Edos have no stress.... Remember it is because he was crippled that he brought out the Gedo Mazo.

So your denying the possiblity that the animal carried him there and then Nagato used Iruka level speed to get under them?

So your reasoning is because we only saw a healthy Nagato fight once then he couldn't be fast?

Naruto went faster than A in chakra mode but I don't see him using that speed to fight Obito/Madara

Nagato never used any other jutsu aside for his rinnegan, yet we know that jiraiya taught him a lot of other jutsu.....so I guess because he didn't show it means he doesn't have it

If Edo's didn't have stress or limits to their body, then all edo's would be moving at incalculable speed.

Well everyone on the base knows ur not one .__.

What bs did I post, I never got any negative comment from anyone :|

well that's a burn lol

 

[Blaze Release]

So can you please post some scans then instead of acting all high and mighty?

Because it not surprisingly seems you have more knowledge about Itachi

there are over 600 chapters in the manga, you can't expect anyone to know every little detail.

Firstly you assume its speed. It may very well be nagato using deva path.
He did use deva to repel the kunai assault. Who can say he didn't use deva path again which can explain this supposedly speed feat.

Secondly lets assume its a speed feat. How many times has the manga shown us shinobi's moving like they are speed demons when in actual fact its nothing special.

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One inconclusive scan which where it may be deva path usage or shunshin doesn;t equate to nagato having equal speed feat/hype to sasuke or itachi who might i add have a 4.5 and 5/5 respectively.

What exactly in that scan shows that nagato equals them.

Sasuke

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^^^ DB explanation of speed stat.
Sasuke 4.5
Itachi 5

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Healthy nagato commands 4.5 or a 5?. I am not convinced.

 

[P3ĮÑ]

Apparently better then the guy who has 27k posts yet acts like a noob and a troll. On top of that can't provide decent debates. And then starts insulting others when his logic his challenged.. =].

Atleast the guy with 4k posts is providing evidence and something to go on. While you and OT gave us literally Sh*t.

What bs did I post, I never received any negative comment from anyone and u mentioned I'm butthurt while ur the one going around spreading insults to everyone. And aren't u a Muslim?

Edit: my post count? lol weird insult ..decent debate u say? In fact it the other way around u need to provide something legitmate, u don't even use a brain before posting or consider using actual facts

U just blindly post, ur a deluded fanboy who needs attention...and look, someone has a new sig, made out of this thread

Ur arguments are all invalid

 

[KingHashirama]

Previously like? Nagato isn't even in my top 5 favorite characters, i just liked the avatar lol

And you assumed I was talking about Nagato? When i was referring to Itachi...

So your reasoning is because we only saw a healthy Nagato fight once then he couldn't be fast?
Naruto went faster than A in chakra mode but I don't see him using that speed to fight Obito/Madara
Nagato never used any other jutsu aside for his rinnegan, yet we know that jiraiya taught him a lot of other jutsu.....so I guess because he didn't show it means he doesn't have it
If Edo's didn't have stress or limits to their body, then all edo's would be moving at incalculable speed.
well that's a burn lol

How could he be fast. Please do tell me, did he train? no..
Naruto hasn't mastered his speed.. its something everyone by now should know. Jiraiya taught him the basic jutsu not Rinnegan jutsu. Which Nagato probably learned by himself and later on from Obito.

Highly false, there is a specific limit to how fast your body moves. I think you guys should actually look into running and how sports works. However the stress eventually bears you down. For example, Chiyo was fighting normally in Edo tensei form.. while she couldn't in living form. With Edo tensei You don't come down from the utmost limit of your body. Your basically in the "prime" form of the body. =].

What bs did I post, I never received any negative comment from anyone and u mentioned I'm butthurt while ur the one going around spreading insults to everyone. And aren't u a Muslim?

Edit: my post count? lol weird insult ..decent debate u say? In fact it the other way around u need to provide something legitmate, u don't even use a brain before posting or consider using actual facts

U just blindly post, ur a deluded fanboy who needs attention...and look, someone has a new sig, made out of this thread

Ur arguments are all invalid

What bs you posted? "Went fully retarded". What does "retarded" have anything to do with the OP. You come in with your smartass insulting others cause they had a different opinion from you , which you couldn't even bring down with your WEAK posts.. and then you carry on to claim your better then me, instead of actually focusing on proving your point.

Insult? I simply stated a fact. I did provide legitmate, that had something to do with OT. And you failed to provide a scan of where Hanzo DEFEATED the Sanin, key word is Sanin, not team Sarutobi.


My arguments are still valid. I just feel bad that idiots like you are actually considered elite with their fanboy logic. Who call others fanboys..... I mean hell your probably one of those people who claim Nagato to be on Hashirama's level.. lmao.

 

[Lightbringer]

Firstly you assume its speed. It may very well be nagato using deva path.
He did use deva to repel the kunai assault. Who can say he didn't use deva path again which can explain this supposedly speed feat.

Secondly lets assume its a speed feat. How many times has the manga shown us shinobi's moving like they are speed demons when in actual fact its nothing special.

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One inconclusive scan which where it may be deva path usage or shunshin doesn;t equate to nagato having equal speed feat/hype to sasuke or itachi who might i add have a 4.5 and 5/5 respectively.

What exactly in that scan shows that nagato equals them.

Sasuke

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Sasuke 4.5
Itachi 5

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Healthy nagato commands 4.5 or a 5?. I am not convinced.

Even with it being Deva Path, it's still considered speed; much like how we consider FTG and A's body flicker to be speed......

also, all those scans you've posted I had previously knowledge on.....but as I said, none of them were as impressive as what Nagato did to Bee.

Itachi defeating those 3 Uchiha; only 1 of them has shown to have an active sharingan

secondly, Itachi was mentioned to be an Uchiha prodigy

thirdly, he attacked without warning mid-speech.



Both Sasuke's and Itachi's speed feats happened within a few feet of the opponent and when the opponent was mostly stationary

.....whereas Nagato getting behind Bee happened after shinra tensei, meaning he was flying for more than a few meters mid-air before Nagato caught up to him

Bee was flying at high speed from the force of Shinra Tensei

 

[Blaze Release]

Even with it being Deva Path, it's still considered speed; much like how we consider FTG and A's body flicker to be speed......

also, all those scans you've posted I had previously knowledge on.....but as I said, none of them were as impressive as what Nagato did to Bee.

Itachi defeating those 3 Uchiha; only 1 of them has shown to have an active sharingan

secondly, Itachi was mentioned to be an Uchiha prodigy

thirdly, he attacked without warning mid-speech.


Also both of their speed feats happened within a few feet of the opponent and also when the opponent was mostly stationary

.....whereas Nagato getting behind Bee happened after shinra tensei, meaning he was flying for more than a few meters mid-air before Nagato caught up to him

You waffle too much. Even if we consider the use of deva path as speed or his shunshin, to say he equals sasuke/itachi is a joke, no matter how you look at it, especially when the scan literally means nothing.
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There has been loads of shinobi's who appear to be fast, but it ends up being nothing special.

As for the scan you hold dear about getting behind bee, it was his usage of his lizard summoning more so than speed.
If so then aim high and claim due to this, crippled nagato > itachi/sasuke speed.

The wank is filthily strong in this thread its a joke

 

[KingHashirama]

Chiyo seemed to fight normally living

and also Nagato has shown that he could fly, so deva path would probably be the reason to it

Using deva path to increase speed is still speed

Go watch the Sasori fight again.. and then say she fought normally. She got tired out quick.

Hmm, true he could've have used the push to increase his momentum, which would be considered speed. But at the max it was anbu level speed. the quick "flash" type that the anbu do. Personally I found that fight to be inconsistance. How could Nagato be fine when he was leaning on Itachi when he was walking? And he himself stated he couldn't on his own...

 

[Lightbringer]

You waffle too much. Even if we consider the use of deva path as speed or his shunshin, to say he equals sasuke/itachi is a joke, no matter how you look at it, especially when the scan literally means nothing.
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There has been loads of shinobi's who appear to be fast, but it ends up being nothing special.

As for the scan you hold dear about getting behind bee, it was his usage of his lizard summoning more so than speed.
If so then aim high and claim due to this, crippled nagato > itachi/sasuke speed.

The wank is filthily strong in this thread its a joke

really? I could only make out 1 tomoe on the two of them

and you're saying this thread is wanking Nagato when you're obviously wanking Sasuke who was overwhelmed by Bee's speed

Kisame was able to effectively outmaneuver Bee in his V1 speed

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so that already shows that Sasuke's speed is nothing noteworthy

Sasuke could hardly keep up with Danzo's as it is




What does the lizard have to do with getting behind Bee? It showed nagato come from under then behind Bee mid-air, the Lizard is pretty huge to fit under Bee to carry Nagato if that's what you're implying.

I never said that cripple Nagato>Itachi, I'm saying healthy nagato>Itachi

 

[Midday]

Blitzing fodder within a few meters vs outrunning an explosion. It's not laughable to compare Nagato's speed to Sasuke and Itachi.

 

[Blaze Release]

@ Lightbringer okay now i know you are trolling, your response makes me believe this, therefore ill stop here.

Anyway nobody in their right mind believes nagato equals sasuke/itachi speed

 

[Lightbringer]

@ Lightbringer okay now i know you are trolling, your response makes me believe this, therefore ill stop here.

Anyway nobody in their right mind believes nagato equals sasuke/itachi speed

Nobody in their right mind? Yet most people here believe it so.

When arguing against Nagato being faster than Itachi, you're not just dismissing it, but you're denying even the possibility of it being true, calling this thread a complete joke

I'm sure it has nothing to do with any biased opinions of Itachi


As Midday already stated, blizting a few fodder within a few feet isn't as impressive as outrunning an explosion

yet you're not getting it.....Nagato outran Shinra Tensei's force and got behind Bee


That's like outrunning a thrown kunai after a few seconds of it being thrown or something faster