"You seem to be shouldering an interesting fate" Discussion

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I'm not a minamoto copycat bro........me minamoto and sozo share teh same bad english and teh same tobidara struggle

btw ur time in teh ignorelist just got extended by a week for tis bull$hit$.......be carfull or u will be in teh ignorelist longer then lakooki......!!!!

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Who was Momoshiki referring to when he said this? (Pray to God that these links work smh)

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At first, I thought he was just overall talking to Naruto. Because:

> The discussion turns to how Naruto cannot pass down his power to the next generation,

However, at NF, someone's comment got me thinking. The discussion starts off like this:

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Then after viewing both Naruto, and Bolt (with the Byakugan), he states this:

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But here's where I'm confused. Why would Momoshiki be referring to Naruto's fate, when he:

I. before (Boruto was here too, but obviously the target was Naruto aka focus).

II. Held Naruto captive for hours and basically had him under his care. The only person he didn't actually take notice of or cared about, was Bolt, until he found out he was Naruto's offspring.

The last 'implication' of this goes back to what I was showing you earlier. After Momoshiki states , the next panel goes towards Boruto alone.

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The discussion question:

> Go re-read the scene, after reading the analysis, and tell me yourself. Who do you think Momoshiki was referring to by 'an interesting fate'

This is all speculative by the way, no theories beyond who he was talking to.

He actually finished his statement. The interesting fate that he was referring is that Naruto has nobody that he can pass his power onto. I guess he was saying that Boruto isn't strong enough to gain naruto's power.
 

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Didn't he say that in the movie too?
 

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Begone! :dafq:

minamoto doesn't see through ur illusion.......u wear a skin of kindness around minamoto but in teh inside u have a heart of deception.........u r looking 4 teh right time to betray a minamoto to teh h8ers!!!!!!!!
 

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I thought it was referring to Boruto's inability to be able to live up to his father's power because he can "never" have a power like the fox.
 

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He's referring to bolt. Bolt does have a powerful heritage so something will happen eventually.

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From my understanding, momo saw something unique in bolt and then asked if Naruto and him were related and then told how sad it was for Naruto not to be able to pass his power down to bolt.


Then again the interesting fate thing could just be a continuation of the fox... bubble lel
 
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He was talking to Naruto. Boruto was intrigued about the meaning of Momo words. I don't think there is anything highly subjective here. The panels are pretty straight forward.

1) If Naruto passes the fox he will die.
2) Isn't a seal needed in order to pass/seal Kurama ?
Was this knowledge passed down to Naruto ? Or it got lost with Minato ?
3) Is Kurama so attached to Naruto (By Hagoromo "order"?) that it can't be extracted which could explain why Momoshiki wasn't able to do it ?
 

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I'm not 100% sure if anyone can see Indra/Ashura in Naruto or Sasuke respectfully other than Hagoromo. No one else has until he met them, but it was sort of dropped on us last minute.

huh?...the indra and asura/naruto and sasuke thing was hinted at since chapter 462...even BEFORE then
 

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huh?...the indra and asura/naruto and sasuke thing was hinted at since chapter 462...even BEFORE then
I was talking about someone physically seeing Indra/Ashura inside of them with a Dojutsu...lol

He was talking to Naruto. Boruto was intrigued about the meaning of Momo words. I don't think there is anything highly subjective here. The panels are pretty straight forward.

1) If Naruto passes the fox he will die.
2) Isn't a seal needed in order to pass/seal Kurama ?
Was this knowledge passed down to Naruto ? Or it got lost with Minato ?
3) Is Kurama so attached to Naruto (By Hagoromo "order"?) that it can't be extracted which could explain why Momoshiki wasn't able to do it ?
I don't think anything in that scenario was highly subjective or straightforward given the context of the scene itself.

It's a stretch to claim which is what.

Both sides have valid points, although, making an argument.
 

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I don't know, but it's interesting. Maybe it does have some reference to the tattoos that Boruto had in the first chapter. Maybe there's a hidden chakra in him that is waiting to manifest, plus, you have the face that Bolt had the Byakugan in one eye.

I guess we gotta wait until this arc ends, which would probably be until summer of next year.


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huh?...the indra and asura/naruto and sasuke thing was hinted at since chapter 462...even BEFORE then

Yep, even during the time when Sasuke was attacking the Kage Summit, Obito told Naruto and the others the history of how Indra/Ashura were destined to continue to fight.
 

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Pretty interesting, i wonder what the viz will say.
 

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He was referring Boruto in regards to fate which is why boruto was emphasized after , then the attension was switched to Naruto the Fox. The writer made sure to change Momo's transformation for a reason and his appearance specifically the dark area's around his skin look exactly akin to Boruto's Dark Tatoo's in the future + both of their Byakugan being Veinless for further emphasis.

-I have a feeling Momo saw some sort of similarity to boruto's chakra compared to his clan's chakra due to his lineage which is why he said he had a interesting fate , but i think the translation isn't exactly concrete enough for me to have much opinion tho its clear to me that this chapter is being linked to the future events..
 

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I don't know, but it's interesting. Maybe it does have some reference to the tattoos that Boruto had in the first chapter. Maybe there's a hidden chakra in him that is waiting to manifest, plus, you have the face that Bolt had the Byakugan in one eye.

I guess we gotta wait until this arc ends, which would probably be until summer of next year.

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Very true. Good stuff here.

I really wish the tattoo part would be true tbh, but I have this strange feeling that since Kawaki also has one, it might not be due to his genetics. Cause if so, then that would mean Kawaki is a genetic hybrid too.

Which isn't directly impossible given the whole theories of him being genetically related to both Naruto and Sasuke. ANYWAY - If that doesn't ring true, it's possible that the tattoos are something created, whether seals or technology enforced.

What it might foreshadow is a power inside of him, whether that dojutsu will be special or not, or if that drawing Kishimoto made of him having a double byakugan chakra form. Who knows really.

B]He was referring Boruto in regards to fate which is why boruto was emphasized after[/B] , then the attension was switched to Naruto the Fox. The writer made sure to change Momo's transformation for a reason and his appearance specifically the dark area's around his skin look exactly akin to Boruto's Dark Tatoo's in the future + both of their Byakugan being Veinless for further emphasis.

-I have a feeling Momo saw some sort of similarity to boruto's chakra compared to his clan's chakra due to his lineage which is why he said he had a interesting fate , but i think the translation isn't exactly concrete enough for me to have much opinion tho its clear to me that this chapter is being linked to the future events..
Good analysis. I'm glad there are a few people who picked this up.

Bold - Which is what I thought too. If he was talking to Naruto, then why did Boruto get a full close up panel by himself right after Momoshiki stated that 'he will have an interesting fate'

When the VIZ Chapters get released on Monday, I'll post them in this thread.
 

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Good analysis. I'm glad there are a few people who picked this up.

Bold - Which is what I thought too. If he was talking to Naruto, then why did Boruto get a full close up panel by himself right after Momoshiki stated that 'he will have an interesting fate'

When the VIZ Chapters get released on Monday, I'll post them in this thread.

Thanks man and yea its a simple writing technique used to convey emphasis so it should be clear if ur reading Manga properly. I have a feeling those scientist who came along with the Team are gonna have further emphasis in the coming chapters and future events heavily around Boruto especially since their creations were referenced to being similar to Momo's ability.

My wild theory is that a body part belonging to Momo will be secretly recovered and studied in order to advance the technology which will likely turn out deadly to everyone apart from Boruto and Tawaki. Considering Gaiden and its emphasis on DNA and link to this series its likely that all of this will connect in the continuity.

-Im also curious about the relation between between Momo and Kin because correlating perspective with the dialog he gave Boruto could indicate that Kin was his pops and that the method they used to pass on power is a long standing Otsuki tradition. That or Kinshi was simply a close relative who had a role similar to the Hyuga's side Branch.
 

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Yep, even during the time when Sasuke was attacking the Kage Summit, Obito told Naruto and the others the history of how Indra/Ashura were destined to continue to fight.

that was the chapter I was referring to...chapter 462
 

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I thought it was referring to Boruto's inability to be able to live up to his father's power because he can "never" have a power like the fox.

Your correct
 

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He was talking to Sasuke and he was talking about Sarada. He has 360 vision and used his dojutsu to see inside Sasuke's memories, noticed Sarada and then recognized that she was something special. A Haruno/Uchiha hybrid is something to fear and admire, after all.
 
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