"You seem to be shouldering an interesting fate" Discussion

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Who was Momoshiki referring to when he said this? (Pray to God that these links work smh)

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At first, I thought he was just overall talking to Naruto. Because:

> The discussion turns to how Naruto cannot pass down his power to the next generation,

However, at NF, someone's comment got me thinking. The discussion starts off like this:

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Then after viewing both Naruto, and Bolt (with the Byakugan), he states this:

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But here's where I'm confused. Why would Momoshiki be referring to Naruto's fate, when he:

I. before (Boruto was here too, but obviously the target was Naruto aka focus).

II. Held Naruto captive for hours and basically had him under his care. The only person he didn't actually take notice of or cared about, was Bolt, until he found out he was Naruto's offspring.

The last 'implication' of this goes back to what I was showing you earlier. After Momoshiki states , the next panel goes towards Boruto alone.

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The discussion question:

> Go re-read the scene, after reading the analysis, and tell me yourself. Who do you think Momoshiki was referring to by 'an interesting fate'

This is all speculative by the way, no theories beyond who he was talking to.
 
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I thought he was saying That because naruto couldn't pass down the kyuubi to his son... or something like that, doesn't he say it on the next page
 

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I thought he was saying That because naruto couldn't pass down the kyuubi to his son... or something like that, doesn't he say it on the next page
I thought the same thing at first too, but that's because I didn't really look at the panels carefully. It wouldn't make sense for him to look at Naruto, and say what he did. Because he already looked at Naruto prior with his Byakugan, and the only other person he never really looked at was his son.

So it's confusing.
 

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I thought the same thing at first too, but that's because I didn't really look at the panels carefully. It wouldn't make sense for him to look at Naruto, and say what he did. Because he already looked at Naruto prior with his Byakugan, and the only other person he never really looked at was his son.

So it's confusing.

Hmm I see what your saying, maybe he saw something in boruto that no one else has, and narutos interesting fate is how to deal with that? Or how to deal with it as "the fox"

Edit: he only seems to think that once he realizes boruto is narutos son
 

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Maybe Momo sees something related to the new tattoos in Boruto.
 

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Hmm I see what your saying, maybe he saw something in boruto that no one else has, and narutos interesting fate is how to deal with that? Or how to deal with it as "the fox"
Cannot say for certain. What they theorized is that:

When Momoshiki saw Boruto with his Byakugan, he saw something, hence the interesting fate quote. Then Momoshiki goes on to say that it's a pity he cannot pass down his power onto Boruto, unlike he (and Kinshiki).

Since we are not completely sure if he's talking to Naruto, or Boruto, and if he is talking to Boruto, we aren't sure what he's referring to which makes it 'interesting' anyway... It's a dead end for now, unless it gets picked up in the next chapter.

Overall I just wanted to see if it made sense or not, the idea that he might be referring to Boruto before he tells Naruto he can't pass down his power unlike the Otsutsuki.

If the theory is right, this plot point might even show up in the future.

Maybe Momo sees something related to the new tattoos in Boruto.
So do you think it is possible he was referring to Bolt? It's seems 50/50, but I do see some valid points here and there.
 

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So do you think it is possible he was referring to Bolt? It's seems 50/50, but I do see some valid points here and there.

I'd say so, considering he makes that comment after acknowledging Boruto and looking at him with Byakugan.

He's either referring to Boruto directly, possibly about the power Boruto and Kawaki later are shown with, or referring to Naruto and how he will react to and deal with said new power.

I don't remember Momo saying this in the movie, so it's something that's connected to the manga events. The new tattoo powers are the only thing it can really be referring to.
 

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Cannot say for certain. What they theorized is that:

When Momoshiki saw Boruto with his Byakugan, he saw something, hence the interesting fate quote. Then Momoshiki goes on to say that it's a pity he cannot pass down his power onto Boruto, unlike he (and Kinshiki).

Since we are not completely sure if he's talking to Naruto, or Boruto, and if he is talking to Boruto, we aren't sure what he's referring to which makes it 'interesting' anyway... It's a dead end for now, unless it gets picked up in the next chapter.

Overall I just wanted to see if it made sense or not, the idea that he might be referring to Boruto before he tells Naruto he can't pass down his power unlike the Otsutsuki.

If the theory is right, this plot point might even show up in the future.


So do you think it is possible he was referring to Bolt? It's seems 50/50, but I do see some valid points here and there.

If it does come back I will be ecstatic as it's a pretty cryptic clue on something big happening to or between them (imo)

Also, I like what Zawerni said about the tats. For some reason the first thought I had when I saw the new fused form of the shiki's was that it looked kinda like the tats, just completely unchecked or regulated
 

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Maybe he see Kurama ? Or it could be possible to see even Ashura no ?
 

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Maybe he see Kurama ? Or it could be possible to see even Ashura no ?
I'm not 100% sure if anyone can see Indra/Ashura in Naruto or Sasuke respectfully other than Hagoromo. No one else has until he met them, but it was sort of dropped on us last minute.

Momoshiki saw Kurama in Naruto when he went to capture him earlier. Although, I'm not sure if he see's Kurama in Bolt.

If it does come back I will be ecstatic as it's a pretty cryptic clue on something big happening to or between them (imo)

Also, I like what Zawerni said about the tats. For some reason the first thought I had when I saw the new fused form of the shiki's was that it looked kinda like the tats, just completely unchecked or regulated
Agreed. I would really like the idea of them dropping some flash forward hints while the Movie is undergoing. That would make this rehash a lot more bearable.

Momoshiki's new design too is a plus.

I'd say so, considering he makes that comment after acknowledging Boruto and looking at him with Byakugan.

He's either referring to Boruto directly, possibly about the power Boruto and Kawaki later are shown with, or referring to Naruto and how he will react to and deal with said new power.

I don't remember Momo saying this in the movie, so it's something that's connected to the manga events. The new tattoo powers are the only thing it can really be referring to.
Interesting. You're completely right, though, this scene happened in the Movie.

I don't know who else the conversation would be about since the story is mainly going to be featuring Boruto (and the next generation). It would be weird to give a 'future' plot point when we've already seen everything Naruto.

Plus... wouldn't that mean his Byakugan his special? Momoshiki's I mean. There were hinting at him seeing the future, although that's HIGH out there in the theory box. It could be anything really, like a source of chakra he can see.
 

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Interesting. You're completely right, though, this scene happened in the Movie.

I don't know who else the conversation would be about since the story is mainly going to be featuring Boruto (and the next generation). It would be weird to give a 'future' plot point when we've already seen everything Naruto.

Plus... wouldn't that mean his Byakugan his special? Momoshiki's I mean. There were hinting at him seeing the future, although that's HIGH out there in the theory box. It could be anything really, like a source of chakra he can see.

Did it happen in the movie? I can't seem to find the point.

I'm not sure about his Byakugan being special, unless the new tattoo powers aren't chakra-based.
 

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Boruto inherited some of Naruto's bijuu chakra and possibly a weaker version of Hamura's dojutsu
 

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Boruto inherited some of Naruto's bijuu chakra and possibly a weaker version of Hamura's dojutsu
Don't you need Rikudou Chakra tho?

Did it happen in the movie? I can't seem to find the point.

I'm not sure about his Byakugan being special, unless the new tattoo powers aren't chakra-based.
It didn't happen in the Movie, you are right! It's a new scene.

They were referring to Momoshiki's Byakugan being special.
 

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It didn't happen in the Movie, you are right! It's a new scene.

They were referring to Momoshiki's Byakugan being special.

Your post confused me a bit about the movie. XD

If the tattoos are chakra-based, then Momo seeing it isn't anything special since that's the Byakugan's ability.
 

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Your post confused me a bit about the movie. XD

If the tattoos are chakra-based, then Momo seeing it isn't anything special since that's the Byakugan's ability.
I figured you were confused LOL. To clarify, the scene where Momoshiki talks about the interesting fate, never happened in the Boruto Movie. Interesting enough, it did not happen in the Boruto Movie Novel, which is what Ukyo did by himself.

Possibly. It's kind of sketchy for me, I feel like the tattoos are something created, not awakened. It's hard to tell tbh
 

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Don't you need Rikudou Chakra tho?

Well Naruto has Hagoromo's chakra, some of it could've been passed down

His chakra is also fused with the chakra of all the bijuu, if it was passed down to Boruto it's possible that he might be able to use Six Path Senjutsu (but a weaker version) because having the chakfa of 9 bijuu is the same as having Juubi chakra.
 

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Well Naruto has Hagoromo's chakra, some of it could've been passed down

His chakra is also fused with the chakra of all the bijuu, if it was passed down to Boruto it's possible that he might be able to use Six Path Senjutsu (but a weaker version) because having the chakfa of 9 bijuu is the same as having Juubi chakra.
Well at this point I would not be surprised if Boruto awakened the Tenseign because he's Naruto's son and has Hyuuga genes. It'll fit right with plot.

"He can do this because of so and so genes" -- We both know how important genes are in Naruto lol...
 

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I figured you were confused LOL. To clarify, the scene where Momoshiki talks about the interesting fate, never happened in the Boruto Movie. Interesting enough, it did not happen in the Boruto Movie Novel, which is what Ukyo did by himself.

Possibly. It's kind of sketchy for me, I feel like the tattoos are something created, not awakened. It's hard to tell tbh

Now that I think about it, it is entirely possible Momo's Byakugan is special.

He seemed to notice something after looking at Boruto, but Hinata didn't see anything odd when she used her Byakugan on Boruto. (aside from the ninja tool he was wearing)

Kaguya's Byakugan also seemed special. She could see Ashura and Indra's chakra in Naruto and Sasuke, which no other Byakugan user could see, apparently.

Maybe eating the chakra fruit has something to do with it.
 

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Who was Momoshiki referring to when he said this? (Pray to God that these links work smh)

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At first, I thought he was just overall talking to Naruto. Because:

> The discussion turns to how Naruto cannot pass down his power to the next generation,

However, at NF, someone's comment got me thinking. The discussion starts off like this:

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Then after viewing both Naruto, and Bolt (with the Byakugan), he states this:

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But here's where I'm confused. Why would Momoshiki be referring to Naruto's fate, when he:

I. before (Boruto was here too, but obviously the target was Naruto aka focus).

II. Held Naruto captive for hours and basically had him under his care. The only person he didn't actually take notice of or cared about, was Bolt, until he found out he was Naruto's offspring.

The last 'implication' of this goes back to what I was showing you earlier. After Momoshiki states , the next panel goes towards Boruto alone.

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The discussion question:

> Go re-read the scene, after reading the analysis, and tell me yourself. Who do you think Momoshiki was referring to by 'an interesting fate'

This is all speculative by the way, no theories beyond who he was talking to.

The way I understand is momoshiki is either addressing naruto or the kyuubi by referring to him as fox when he sees his kid he notices his considerably less chakra reserves either just in general or small amounts of kyuubi chakra leaked into him.

He says that to show in the okutsuki clan they can get stronger by absorbing the power of the old generation

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