You need to he this straight! It's pissing me off! (relating to Nagato)

[ChrisWolf]

I'm getting so tired of people saying 6 paths of pain vs sum1 but not Nagato and Nagato vs sum1 not pain. People keep acting like pain and Nagato are two different people and that they should be considered separate when speaking in terms of a vs thread or anything like that.....

The 6 paths of pain are jus part of nagatos arsenal! When you say Nagato vs sum1 that should imply his pains are included, now Ik he did fight naruto, bee and itachi without his pains and naruto did fight his pains but not Nagato without his pains during that battle at konoha but thats the same as how kankuro only fought sasoris puppets but not him or how later on it shows sassori fighting kankuro in the war without his puppets.....would you do a sasori vs thread and think its implied he is without his puppets? No you wouldnt so why treat Nagato like that.

Nagatos pains are puppets, they aren't controlled with puppet strings so it's not the technical puppet master jutsu but Nagato is controlling them which means they are his ninja tools, his. Puppets via chakra reveivers.

So when you say Nagato vs sum1 it should imply he has his 6 paths and you shouldnt say just 6 paths of pain vs sum1 because Nagato would still be controlling them.

Now I think it's safe to assume Nagato can't control his pains and fight at full power at the same time, especially since he needs to be attached to that tower thing, but in a fight he could hide in the distance and use his pains and if they manage to get destroyed or he just feels that that strategy isn't working so well then he can switch with them and come into the fight himself......just like how puppet masters send their puppets in 1st, his pains are even made out of real people like sasoris puppets.

Flame if you will but I am correct on this and I'm getting tired of people acting like Nagato and his pains are separate entities.

 

[Ldude]

Completely agree.

 

[King Of Sharingan]

I couldnt follow what you were saying

 

[King Of Sharingan]

Never mind i completly understand and btw
Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes Yes

 

[Hipster Madara]

It's ok if they want to separate them because they have different advantages and disadvantages.

 

[Blaze Release]

Think because he hasnt shown the feat of fighting along with his paths therefore people cannot decide how strong he would be with his paths by his side

 

[Prince Charles]

Obv plp don't put them together because it wud make nagato the victor for mosts fights

 

[Fusion Reborn]

I agree with Hips.

They do have Advantages and Disadvantages

 

[OnPoint]

Nagato does not need to fight with his realms; they're merely the ability of the outer path. You try to compare it to Sasori's puppets when, in truth, he is nothing without them - is Nagato 'nothing' without his paths? No. He's not inclined to have to use them (except in plot). There's nothing which even indicates that Nagato, when using his paths along side him, could use abilities independantly - say, using Deva Path trhough himself whilst using it through Tendo, and essentially having two sets of Shinra Tenseis etc.

 

[Punk Hazard]

The reason people say Nagato and Pein separately is because while Nagato can use Peins like Kankuro uses puppets, he doesn't have to fight with them.

Using Kankuro as an analogy here is pretty bad since his puppets need him to be in the same area in order for them to be operated, while Nagato can be a big distance away.

By the way, who are you to say how we can and can't discuss? If people want to say "Pein but Nagato isn't with them" and vice versa, then they have to the right to do so. You can't change that just because you, one person out of 100,000, feel that Pein and Nagato should always go hand in hand.

 

[Hattake Ryuzaki]

agreed

 

[LiirKo]

It's ok if they want to separate them because they have different advantages and disadvantages.

Pretty much this ^

 

[Shame]

Technically it does not matter if they seperate them because Nagato has all those ability's anyways. But you can consider them as summons and that would also be fine.

 

[XxFlyingxRajinxMinatoXx]

very true

 

[Urda]

Technically, Nagato is not presenced when his Realms are all gathered (eg. Destroy Konoha Arc and Jiraiya Battle). It would be sorta pointless to include him within Vs. Threads and adding knowledge to both parties within Vs. Threads that include the Realms of Nagato which would also be pointless. Nagato alone, with limitations (meaning mobility) has more of an open field of possibilities such as access to each Realms abilities and strength the surpasses he weaken state. Other than the latter, I agree to disagree.

 

[The Thinker]

It's ok if they want to separate them because they have different advantages and disadvantages.

This

 

[ChrisWolf]

I wasnt saying its wrong or incorrect to say nagato without his paths vs sum1 but I am saying a lot of the time when people say Nagato vs sum1 I read the thread and quickly find that they mean Nagato without his pains, which is ok of course but why wouldn't they explain that in their original post?

Of course people can discuss how they want rickerslade......but they shouldn't say Nagato vs sum1 and think that it's implied he is without his pains unless they say so.

As to the comparison to kankuro and sasori, of course they aren't exactly the same.....they have different advantages and disadvantages but my point is that that is just a talent of Nagato just like the puppet masters puppets are their talent.

Of course Nagato fighting on his own and him fighting with his pains have different advantages and disadvantages but that doesn't mean he can't fight both ways in one fight, his pains are still a part of his arsenal no matter how you look at it.

 

[Shame]

I wasnt saying its wrong or incorrect to say nagato without his paths vs sum1 but I am saying a lot of the time when people say Nagato vs sum1 I read the thread and quickly find that they mean Nagato without his pains, which is ok of course but why wouldn't they explain that in their original post?

Of course people can discuss how they want rickerslade......but they shouldn't say Nagato vs sum1 and think that it's implied he is without his pains unless they say so.

As to the comparison to kankuro and sasori, of course they aren't exactly the same.....they have different advantages and disadvantages but my point is that that is just a talent of Nagato just like the puppet masters puppets are their talent.


Of course Nagato fighting on his own and him fighting with his pains have different advantages and disadvantages but that doesn't mean he can't fight both ways in one fight, his pains are still a part of his arsenal no matter how you look at it.

I look at it this way pain's=Nagato. Nagato= pain's.
So you can't take anything away from either sides they be the same.

 

[Punk Hazard]

I wasnt saying its wrong or incorrect to say nagato without his paths vs sum1 but I am saying a lot of the time when people say Nagato vs sum1 I read the thread and quickly find that they mean Nagato without his pains, which is ok of course but why wouldn't they explain that in their original post?

Of course people can discuss how they want rickerslade......but they shouldn't say Nagato vs sum1 and think that it's implied he is without his pains unless they say so.

As to the comparison to kankuro and sasori, of course they aren't exactly the same.....they have different advantages and disadvantages but my point is that that is just a talent of Nagato just like the puppet masters puppets are their talent.

Of course Nagato fighting on his own and him fighting with his pains have different advantages and disadvantages but that doesn't mean he can't fight both ways in one fight, his pains are still a part of his arsenal no matter how you look at it.

Well, if people are always doing it, shouldn't you have caught on by now and adjusted?

And bro, seriously. You're already looking at your computer screen. Is it THAT hard to glance up and see it's spelled RIKERSLADE?

 

[ChrisWolf]

Well, if people are always doing it, shouldn't you have caught on by now and adjusted?

And bro, seriously. You're already looking at your computer screen. Is it THAT hard to glance up and see it's spelled RIKERSLADE?

Are you really gonna get on my case for a typo? I honestly thought you were above that....I know how to spell it, it was just a mistake and all I'm trying to say is that the 6 paths of pain are part of nagatos arsenal, they are part of his skill set and many people don't see it that way.