You guys are forgetting something!

[Dantee]

Like that guy said. Tobirama. He created the jutsu.

And no he was beig controlled and can't release himself. Besides Kabuto can change his seals at will.

Madara was bounded and restrain. No of course I'm not Kabuto are you? Manga does not prove anything that he was not being controlled.

Kabuto at no point in time controlled Madara in battle. If that's your argument, I will let someone else destroy that.

 

[theRPGdude]

Kabuto at no point in time controlled Madara in battle. If that's your argument, I will let someone else destroy that.

He does not need time. The seal does everything. And can change it at will and what if he just summon Madara himself while he stays in hidden alone. He has all the time he can have. Just one Edo.

And I'm discussing like its a verse thread. One Vs One. He can summon however much Edo's he wants. Just Madara can handle the job. I don't understand how time does anything?

 

[Dantee]

He does not need time. The seal does everything. And can change it at wi""z and what if he just summon Madara himself while he stays in hidden alone. He has all the time he can have. Just one Edo.

As fast as Kabuto can change his seal, Madara can also break out. Again with the make up scenario's in your head but the manga shows that Kabuto lets Madara do what he wants in battle.

 

[uchihamad]

i believe madara broke free homie...

I agree!

 

[theRPGdude]

As fast as Kabuto can change his seal, Madara can also break out. Again with the make up scenario's in your head but the manga shows that Kabuto lets Madara do what he wants in battle.

Sure yeah alright. And how does Madara break out again being controlled? And Edo Tensi no released?

What happens in the manga already happen. There's nothing I can say that will change it. You can say he was free. But in a different battle scene.

It's funny how you use scenes that already happen. But that does not help anything.

So what if he is controlled? Can he break free willy nilly?

 

[Dantee]

Sure yeah alright. And how does Madara break out again being controlled? And Edo Tensi no released?

What happens in the manga already happen. There's nothing I can say that will change it. You can say he was free. But in a different battle scene.

It's funny how you use scenes that already happen. But that does not help anything.

Madara was never controlled. There is not one scan of Madara ever being controlled only summoned. I have provided proof in the manga showing that it didn't matter if Edo Tensei was being released or not. Your proof? Non existent.

Madaras words " As long as you know the seals you can release Edo Tensei's summoning contract". It means whether the jutsu was being released or not Madara could have broken out at any time. Maybe you should stop underrating Madara.

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[theRPGdude]

Madara was never controlled. There is not one scan of Madara ever being controlled only summoned. I have provided proof in the manga showing that it didn't matter if Edo Tensei was being released or not. Your proof? Non existent.

Madaras words " As long as you know the seals you can release Edo Tensei's summoning contract". It means whether the jutsu was being released or not Madara could have broken out at any time. Maybe you should stop underrating Madara.

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Your Manga proof is out on context.

So he can just break out when he's controlled?

You underrated the power of Edo Tensi. Neither of us have any substantial proof that can back up. But from what I interpreted I know that being under controlled by the user of Edo Tensi. You are bind to the will of the user. And this can't break free.

That's what I learned from Kabutos explanation from Edo Tensi to Tobi at that point. I honestly don't know for sure weather he was or not.

It's funny how Tobirama created Edo Tensi and did not release himself. It's funny how a bunch of strong Edo's can't move at there own will. I don't know how you read the manga but Kabuto has them binded to his will. I don't understand what you are trying to prove. Please bro work with me.


What are you actually discussing here. Trying to prove me wrong? Or trying to change my views?

 

[Dantee]

Your Manga proof is out on context.

So he can just break out when he's controlled?

You underrated the power of Edo Tensi. Neither of us have any substantial proof that can back up. But from what I interpreted I know that being under controlled by the user of Edo Tensi. You are bind to the will of the user. And this can't break free.

That's what I learned from Kabutos explanation from Edo Tensi to Tobi at that point. I honestly don't know for sure weather he was or not.

It's funny how Tobirama created Edo Tensi and did not release himself. It's funny how a bunch of strong Edo's can't move at there own will. I don't know how you read the manga but Kabuto has them binded to his will. I don't understand what you are trying to prove. Please bro work with me.

It's not rocket science. Does Kabuto at anytime in this manga control Madara and I'm not talking about summoning. Show me 1 instance where Kabuto controls Madara. please just 1.

 

[theRPGdude]

It's not rocket science. Does Kabuto at anytime in this manga control Madara and I'm not talking about summoning. Show me 1 instance where Kabuto controls Madara. please just 1.

It's not rocket science that he can and can't. No I can't prove that he was control or not and neither can you.

Your points are strange. And you don't come across it clearly. Kabuto can control Madara it's his jutsu!

So you are telling me. Weather the Edo's are being fully controlled. They can be broken free if they know the contract seal. Is that correct?

 

[Dantee]

It's not rocket science that he can and can't. No I can't prove that he was control or not and neither can you.Your points are strange. And you don't come across it clearly. Kabuto can control Madara it's his jutsu!

I can surely prove Madara was never controlled infact it should be clear as day he wasn't. Kabuto probably could have controlled Madara, but the point is he chose not to and that gives Madara the ability to break out....

 

[theRPGdude]

I can surely prove Madara was never controlled infact it should be clear as day he wasn't. Kabuto probably could have controlled Madara, but the point is he chose not to and that gives Madara the ability to break out....

Alright. I'll take your word on that. But answer the last question I edit.

 

[Dantee]

So you are telling me. Weather the Edo's are being fully controlled. They can be broken free if they know the contract seal. Is that correct?

No or else Tobirama would have broke free. What I'm saying in a nut shell is that Kabuto is cocky and believes Edo Tensei is the all powerful perfect jutsu. He let Madara walk free because he thinks he can control him which we saw later is false.

 

[kotoamatsukami]

I think there is a manga scan of kabuto saying I'll let you do as you please?

 

[theRPGdude]

No or else Tobirama would have broke free. What I'm saying in a nut shell is that Kabuto is cocky and believes Edo Tensei is the all powerful perfect jutsu. He let Madara walk free because he thinks he can control him which we saw later is false.

Alright. Than we are settle. The other comment below makes sense.

I think there is a manga scan of kabuto saying I'll let you do as you please?

Well...I think? Lol it would be funny. All that time spent debating over nothing.

 

[Dantee]

I think there is a manga scan of kabuto saying I'll let you do as you please?

That would be scary. I can't even check because most of those chapters are deleted from NB.

 

[Varrah]

Err, Madara ultimately unrestricted himself, because Kabuto failed to fully exercise his control; whether that is because of the other Edo’s and/or Itachi/Sasuke dividing his attention is disputable. Madara seemingly could have released Kabuto’s control at any moment given his knowledge of it, as to why he did not is unidentified (likely he was suspicious of Obito, and being an Edo obviously has benefitted him).
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You're not wrong OP, but Kabuto summoning Madara is daring. ​