Yondaime's Hirashin is greater than Madara's Time-Space Jutsu

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yellow flash may be faster, but he's limited to where his tags are placed. while madara can go anywhere he wants, it just takes longer. these jutsu are very powerful, but both have downfalls. for the purpose of this argument, i'd have to say madara's is better
 
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Yeah..For Me Madara Is Way More Faster Than 4th Hokage..Maybe If It's Strength Or Mind..Maybe Im To The 4th..But If Its With Speed/Agility..Hell Im To Madara..When Madara Do This Space/Time Thing..Damn He's Like Immortal..He Becomes Intangible Like Instant Transmission Of Gokou Or Something..And He Doesn't Need Any Handseals..And Its Been Answered Before..Hell..Kakashi Answered It As Well.."Its More Advance Than 4th Hokage's Space/Time Ninjutsu"
 

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Have any of you considered that Madara might also have a "trick to his trade", Maybe he is not able to teleport or warp any where? Maybe he is limited to the rings in Akatsuki, meaning he can only teleport close to people that wears the Akatsuki rings or something, also body parts, like how he dodged Naruto's rasengan?

I also want to explain the 4ths abilities a little better, because I think there is a couple of delusional people out there, that gets confused about his, abilities.

The 4ths flying thunder: He gives his subordinate a kunai, with a tag, this enables him to locate that persons specific position, its like a mobile gps for the 4th to enable him to "teleport" to that person, the flying thunder technique is similar to Haku's ice mirrors, where time between the mirrors seems to stand still. Another way to explain this, is if you close your eyes, you see total darkness, and lets say a lot of lights pop up, those lights are the kunai of all shinobi that you gave a tag, so you know exactly where teleport, other wise how would the 4th have known where to teleport? So the 4th threw the kunia at the enemies, and move with lighting speed between the kunai to kill the enemies, same as what Haku does.

Ok, the body fliker part, That is used to teleport without the kunai, we call it line of sight teleport. LOS. That is were he move, with the speed of light, which is considered teleport. from 1 location to another withing his sight.

Now just to clear things up, I dont know how's jitsu is better, like a person previously said in this thread, there are downfalls to both jitsus,full credits to him.

Madara's jitsu is not yet explained in so much detail, and I think we will get to learn his jitsu a little better later on. My theory is that he can only teleport to certain people or places? Like the Akatsuki members that have rings, this is only a guess but I think that is his weakness. :D
 

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interesting point u have there but i really dnt get how ppl can say which is better at the moment bcoz we've pnly seen madara teleport once, and that was to the location of one of his members (itachi), and the fact that the 4th's jutsu has been seen a little bit more than madaras doesnt really clarify which is better, seen as we dnt knw for sure if he needs the kunai's to teleport over long distances , maybe he can go wherever he wants too but when it comes to battle its just a safety precaution to make sure he isnt vulnerable to attack from enemies.

in my opinion both jutsu may have different requirements to work like zumorikato said but there is no solid proof that they need these things in order to use their jutsu.
 

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Yeah..For Me Madara Is Way More Faster Than 4th Hokage..Maybe If It's Strength Or Mind..Maybe Im To The 4th..But If Its With Speed/Agility..Hell Im To Madara..When Madara Do This Space/Time Thing..Damn He's Like Immortal..He Becomes Intangible Like Instant Transmission Of Gokou Or Something..And He Doesn't Need Any Handseals..And Its Been Answered Before..Hell..Kakashi Answered It As Well.."Its More Advance Than 4th Hokage's Space/Time Ninjutsu"[/QUOTE

but thats because madara haves the ems
 

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interesting point u have there but i really dnt get how ppl can say which is better at the moment bcoz we've pnly seen madara teleport once, and that was to the location of one of his members (itachi), and the fact that the 4th's jutsu has been seen a little bit more than madaras doesnt really clarify which is better, seen as we dnt knw for sure if he needs the kunai's to teleport over long distances , maybe he can go wherever he wants too but when it comes to battle its just a safety precaution to make sure he isnt vulnerable to attack from enemies.

in my opinion both jutsu may have different requirements to work like zumorikato said but there is no solid proof that they need these things in order to use their jutsu.
Thanx MS_Evolution, I agree with you.

Like I said we are all speculating regarding this, without full knowledge of the jitsu's, or how the work, thus we are all making assumptions on which is better and which is not.
 

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Dont worry, i have got a lot of cookie love for everybody!!!! :D

The cookies are formulated to have a combination of choc chips and caramel!!!! And its extra crunchy!!!!! ; )

(Starts to flick out cookies like a deck of cards!!!)

Thinks to self, maybe Madara uses cookies to teleport, just like the 4th used the kunai!!!!!!

We did it, we solved the confusion behind Madara's teleportation!!!!
 
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