Yin seal counters Gentle Fist (Revised)

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I have revised my old thread on this matter.

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Naruto's Situation:

Naruto was able to recover from gentle fist, using Kuruma's chakra. Gentle fist works by inserting one's chakra into the chakra point, Kuruma's chakra must have overpowered Neji's tiny bit of chakra and opened the point since Kuruma's chakra reserve is so large, enough of it was able to push it open.

Another way it may have opened was because Kuruma's chakra heals. If the points needs to be healed like a cut to open then that is what happened.

You cant just say Kuruma's chakra just opened the points because it did, there has to be a reason.

Yin seal situation:

The yin seal reserve is much larger than the the body's regular reserve. So when released, tons of chakra will overpower the tiny bit in place to open the point.

Or if it does not work that way then creation birth which is used to heal, will heal the points the same way Kuruma's chakra heals.

The yin seal exists outside the chakra network, meaning their is no point for it on the network.

- Hinata had her points closed, her organs were damaged and must have been healed using mystical palm but for mystical palm to work, her points have to be opened to allow chakra in, so the medic's chakra have to have overpowered the tiny bit of Neji's chakra put in.


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Yin seal markings:

Yin seal is a seal obviously but do any of you remember when Kakashi sealed Sasuke's curse mark? Well the markings moved to seal the curse mark, then the markings must allow chakra flow.

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Another point is Orochimaru's curse mark. Seal writing would appear all over the body, meaning the chakra is coming from the seal and does not have to with the chakra network.

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When released, seal markings cover all over her body and they must allow chakra flow. So if the seal doesnt open the points then the markings will just allow for chakra flow.This makes perfect sense since if your are trying to heal a giant wound you are going to need more chakra than your tenkestu can carry so the markings allow for more chakra flow.

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The seal does not need hand signs:

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Tsunade and Sakura have released their seals without hand signs. Meaning if their points are closed they can still release the seal.

Gentle fist can't just destroy the seal:

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Neji had hit the chakra points on the Naruto's stomach many times, as we know of gentle fist, it does not only target the chakra point itself but the organs and area around it. If it was true gentle fist could destroy seals then Naruto's seal would have bee broken.


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I have provided sufficient evidence to show that the yin seal does infact counter gentle fist. Hopefully this stops certain debates that are happening still.
 
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If they use the the Gentle Fist while she doesn't have the seal activated it counters it by being activated

If they use the Gentle Fist while the seal is activated she can't counter it
 
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If they use the the Gentle Fist while she doesn't have the seal activated it counters it by ing activated

If they use the Gentle Fist while the seal is activated she can't counter it

Throughout this war Tsunade and Sakura have released their seals more than once.
 

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Throughout this war Tsunade and Sakura have released their seals more than once.
What about it? They would need a lot of time to get enought chakra to make the chakra flow working again
 

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What about it? They would need a lot of time to get enought chakra to make the chakra flow working again

No they do not. Think from the time Sakura and Tsunade summon 10% Katsuyu to when Sakura activated Byakugou. That is a short amount of time.

Or when Tsunade activated Byakgou to when she and Sakura summon 10% Katsuyu.
 

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ur thread...umm...is a bit....umm..strange....umm ....i dunno why..

u are comparing two different mechanisms. Gentle fist is physical ataack. seal is a kinnda encoding/decoding. I don't think any kind of seal could be broken by merely fisting and doing physical hit.
 

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ur thread...umm...is a bit....umm..strange....umm ....i dunno why..

u are comparing two different mechanisms. Gentle fist is physical ataack. seal is a kinnda encoding/decoding. I don't think any kind of seal could be broken by merely fisting and doing physical hit.

Some peoeple think otherwise.
 

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No they do not. Think from the time Sakura and Tsunade summon 10% Katsuyu to when Sakura activated Byakugou. That is a short amount of time.

Or when Tsunade activated Byakgou to when she and Sakura summon 10% Katsuyu.
No it's not, at least in a fight it's not, if Sakura can't use chakra for even 10 second she gets stomped by Neji and Hiashi
 

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No it's not, at least in a fight it's not, if Sakura can't use chakra for even 10 second she gets stomped by Neji and Hiashi

Because the Hyuga's never tire right? Because they have as much chakra as Sakura or Tsunade. No, they will hit 64 palms thinking its over then its really over when Sakura or Tsunade release their seal.

Again this is not a thread for this, I made my point.
 

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Some peoeple think otherwise.

it's like comparing hardware and software. Each has it own mechanism. Seal is like software. To counter any seal you must do some codes and seal-related jutsu, not just physical attack no matter how badass that physical attack is
 

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Because the Hyuga's never tire right? Because they have as much chakra as Sakura or Tsunade. No, they will hit 64 palms thinking its over then its really over when Sakura or Tsunade release their seal.

Again this is not a thread for this, I made my point.
Look if Sakura has the seal activated and get hit by 64 palms she will need time to gather chakra in the seal again, in that time Neji or Hiashi can easily kill her

And why would Sakura have more chakra than them? Tsunade is part Uzumaki and part Senju, Sakura is a normal perso
 

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Look if Sakura has the seal activated and get hit by 64 palms she will need time to gather chakra in the seal again, in that time Neji or Hiashi can easily kill her

And why would Sakura have more chakra than them? Tsunade is part Uzumaki and part Senju, Sakura is a normal perso

I dont know because she has been storing chakra in her head for 3 years. Also you skipped the part where gentle fist is not destroying the seal writing.
 

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I dont know because she has been storing chakra in her head for 3 years.
Oh so that's what you mean? Then yeah she has, but still doesn't change the fact that if they use 64 palms while she has the seal activated is game over
 

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ok.. to open a seal stuff.. simplicity matter of "unsealing".. it can be different ways, but we cannot force open a seal.. (duhh) no matter how forceful the external things to open it(for example here,chakra). unless the you know "the key"

anyway.. byakugou here is a form of unsealed yin, i think this guy below said what im trying to say

If they use the the Gentle Fist while she doesn't have the seal activated it counters it by ing activated

If they use the Gentle Fist while the seal is activated she can't counter it
 

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Tsunade :nosebleed:
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But i fully agree with your thread:coffee:, excellent job :flowers
 
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If they use the the Gentle Fist while she doesn't have the seal activated it counters it by being activated

If they use the Gentle Fist while the seal is activated she can't counter it

Basically this, but awesome thread though
 
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