[YY] Yin Release

[Mirai]

*Dabs*

 

[Drackos]

Begin by explaining Yin in the Daoist context, including your understanding of Yin-Yang as a whole. This should include as much as you know, from literal definitions to symbolism involved. Then, explain Yin in the NRP context.

 

[Mirai]

I’ll be quite honest with you when it comes to the whole concept of of Yin and Yang outside of the rp context isn’t something I have divided too much into but Ill take a crack at it. It’s a very short coming understand but Yin in terms of it’s relation to that end is translated as the “Shady side” of the two sides, with it representing the spiritual balance of the two sides of Yin and Yang. I’ve honestly always thought to myself there as another meaning to it in context with it as in “For every light, there is darkness” and vice versa which the little is presented by the smaller circles within it. I know there is far more meaning behind but as I said my knowledge of it religious terminology is very vauge, but I hope you enlighten me on it.

Now the context of the Naruto world is where my knowledge of the art comes from. Ying Release is one side of the combined elemental nature of Yin – Yang but also splits off into it’s own branch of sub abilities including it’s own Yin Release. Yin represents imagination, giving form to the imaginative mind of an individual but also represents the spiritual side of chakra. The most common application seen in the show is the genjutsu which is a canon example of Yin Release but to a far lesser degree. It allows for abiltites such as the Nara’s shadows to become animated through, Yamanaka and their mind based techniques being enhanced etc.

 

[Drackos]

The philosophical side of Yin-Yang in the RP is probably one of the best aspects of it. And while you may not immediately appreciate that, it will eventually serve to make your customs and usage significantly better. It's also just cool as shit. Nothing you said was wrong, but let me just give you this. Read it and comment on it.

In Asian philosophy Yin is one half of a whole, this being Yin-Yang. While the two represent a single whole, they are also complimentary and contradictory forces in the universe and spirituality. It is a duality that simultaneously opposes itself, but comes together to form a perfect balance that is constantly in motion. Yin, specifically, is characterized as dark, fluid, and docile. It is also seen as passive and feminine, as well as represented as the moon.

Yin and Yang is present in many Asian philosophies; these are most notably Confucianism and Daoism. Because Reborn studies Daoism, and it was used as the basis for Yin on NB, I'll focus more on that rather than Confucian Yin (even though they are very similar). Daoism focuses on the balance aspect of Yin and Yang. It notes that the two forces are always flowing and never in a static state. In the Daoist philosophy, Wuji is the primordial universe; it is essentially 'nothingness' or the void. From nothingness came everything, or Taiji. But because there is no fundamental difference between nothing and everything, polarity is introduced in Taiji, which forms Yin and Yang. From Yin and Yang come the 8 Trigrams, and through that come Creation of All Things (10,000 Things).

Yin and Yang cannot be separated and exist independent of one another. This is represented by the Taichi symbol, which has Yin present in Yang, and Yang present in Yin. So while they are contradictory forces, they also sustain one another. They are opposite, but balanced together.

Now, in the context of Naruto Yin is the energy that governs spiritual energy, the imagination, and darkness. In simple terms, it is creation from nothing. Birth from imagination. Form created from lack of form. Yin is the application of imagination; because of this, it is capable, on its most basic level, of creating characteristics that would otherwise be impossible in techniques. Yin can grant fire the property of being cold, it can cause lightning to become solid, or make earth intangible. It has powerful chakra draining qualities, notably in the Phantom Dragons, Hands of Sloth, and Hungry Ghost.

Beyond this, because Yin governs the spirit and spiritual energy, it is intrinsically connected to the mental state. It affects the minds of others, or even the user's, as well as the balance of spiritual and physical energy in the body. Yin's nature allows one to take Genjutsu techniques to a level beyond what would normally be possible. Illusory techniques can be empowered to bend the will of the user's victim, weaken their spiritual energy and wipe out the balance between spiritual and physical. One of the most important aspects of this is that, because the balance between spiritual and physical energy in a body is thrown off, Yin can render someone unable to mold chakra.

A lot of fields stem from Yin. The obvious one is Genjutsu (as previously discussed). Yin is inherently the basis for Genjutsu; it affects the spiritual energy of a target and can bend their will and throw off the balance of energies. Yin also forms the basis for Nara and Yamanaka techniques, both being spiritual in nature. But its important to always remember that Yin is vastly larger than these. These are products of Yin. But Yin at its core, and the reason for why I picked it as my starting energy, is that it is creation from imagination. Form from nothingness.

 

[Mirai]

Hm, pretty cool. I'll keep that in a note pad and can use it as a guide. Thanks for the information

 

[Drackos]

Gonna toss this in too cause it's just a great addition to understanding Yin. Helps with custom creation as well.

"As I said, Yin has unique traits exclusive to it just like Yang had. Yin is cold, receptive energy ( much like Yang on regards to it's heat, Yin gives off no cold air or anything; however, it is chilling to the touch. Picture a cold chill down your spine when scared or 'spooked'. If touched, you'll notice extremely cold but not when just near it ). It is spiritual energy and by extension works by manipulation of the spirit ( You're able to create spiritual entities that target the enemy and have vitality draining abilities. You're also capable of creating Genjutsu and Genjutsu like jutsu that target the enemy's spiritual nature or the users. These appear with some custom abilities such as the Kurama Clan, who utilize their Yin natured abilities to augment Genjutsu by making them 'real', or Uchiha, who utilize Gen heavy special abilities and some Yin and lesser Yang related abilities [one could argue that Susano'o is a YY natured technique, for example], Tayuya and her Doki, easily the greatest Yin natured canon tech that creates spiritual entities that attack the enemy's vitality and drains it, etc ). While Yin logically may be capable of disrupting the body's balance, only Yang energy is able to cause an imbalance of energy in the body that can have varying effects ( only Yang energy is able to affect the opponent in a way that this imbalance can hinder or harm them due to Yang requiring greater control over the dominant and wild energy ) and a few more smaller things that I'll point out in jutsu by jutsu."

 

[Mirai]

Understood, not gonna lie im reading ya training with LoK and others too so while I wait for replies I just try to keep the art fresh in my mind.

 

[Drackos]

Note that there are changes to Yin-Yang approaching, and they'll be covered in our training when they do occur. Until then, we proceed as normal. I'll probably find out in my own training what changes happen. Hopefully not too drastic.

(Inton: Ten ni henkō) - Yin Release: Change into Heaven
Type: Supplementary
Rank: S-Rank
Range: Short
Chakra cost: N/A (+50)
Damage points: N/A
Description: The user manipulates a technique of the basic 5 elements with Yin nature, allowing him to change its properties. Fire can become solid. Lightning can become tangible. The possibilities are as endless as is the user’s own imagination. The end resulting technique is neutral to all basic elemental natures. This doesn't consume time since it’s actually a skill applied to a technique used at the same time.
Note: Yin Release masters can apply this technique to advanced fields, CE and advanced elements.
Note: Usable 6 times per battle

First technique. We'll discuss the technique first and then discuss its limits.

 

[Mirai]

Ah yes, one of my favorites so far aside from 5 Element Illusion but this technique is the ulimate canon manipulation technique. This allows the person who uses it the ability to mold their technique towards their desire. There are lots of potential usages, turning fire invisible or removing the heat, making water scolding hot, making wind freezing or have intangibility etc. There is a lot of room to take this but id liike to know the limits so let me know please.

 

[Drackos]

The three most important limitations here are the size of the technique this is applied to and how that technique is perceived. Under no circumstances can the size of the technique be altered. You can't use your imagination to create a mountain out of a pebble, and you can't change a lake of water into an ocean of lava. Likewise, if you remove the 'form' of the technique, meaning what makes it corporeal, the size still won't change. It will always stay the same in terms of space occupied, even if it no longer technically occupies space.

The second important limitation here is sensory perception. Basically how your opponent can perceive this technique. There must always be a way to detect it, even if it isn't obvious. But it must always be there. You can't make a technique invisible to all 5 senses. It just can't work that way.

Now what I'm going to say next aren't necessarily 'hard' limitations like the above two. These are more of logical limitations to how you can change a technique. It's important you always consider how this will impact the nature of the element itself. If you turn Fire cold, then you have cold Fire. But if you turn fire into a liquid that is also cold (technically possible with Change into Heaven), then do you really have Fire anymore? It begs the question of whether or not the strengths of the element you've changed have been impacted. So this isn't to say this is off limits, but it gets sort of janky. So remember to be logical.

 

[Mirai]

Alright, understood. Really still gives you massive room to work with at the end of the day.

 

[Drackos]

Alright here's the big one for you.

(Inton: Gogyou Gen) - Yin Release: 5 Elements Illusion
Type: Supplementary
Rank: S
Range: N/A
Chakra Cost: N/A (+50)
Damage: N/A
Description: This technique allows the user to combine their elemental chakra with Yin Release in order to create stronger, more potent genjutsu. When the user casts a genjutsu, rather than using their raw chakra they will use one of the basic elemental natures, thus increasing the potency of the jutsu. The jutsu increases in strength by one rank and due to the massive amount of chakra used, the jutsu can penetrate through any subversive method against genjutsu. By using nature chakra rather than raw chakra, the properties of the genjutsu can change in accordance to that nature and become stronger. For example, using Crushing Snake Constriction with Fire Release chakra would make the snakes appear, feel, and sound as though they were on fire. As well, the technique would follow the rules of elemental genjutsu. The user is free to alter the effects of a genjutsu within reason as long as the primary effects remain the same.
Note: Can only be used 6 times per battle.
Note: Cannot be used on techniques above S-rank.
Note: Yin Release masters can use advanced elements and CE

I'm sure you've studied this one extensively, and probably know it even better than I do. It's important to note that with this technique, like all other Yin-Yang Release techniques, the chakra infusion itself doesn't make the Genjutsu more difficult to break out of. That aspect comes from the technique increasing the rank of the illusion itself. So just be aware of that difference. I am going to assume you have no questions on the wording of the technique, but if you do go ahead and ask them in your post.

What do you think are the limits of the technique in terms of how you can expand on the illusion? What I mean by that is this technique allows you to freely alter the illusion as long as their primary effects remain the same. So how much creative license does that grant you? And based on my own Yin-Yang training, where do you see the Yang in this technique? I discussed ratios earlier in this technique and, no matter how much Yin favored a technique is, Yang is always present. Don't sweat this question too much. It's just interesting speculation.

 

[Mirai]

Oh how I have coveted this technique for many eons…but alas that is no longer a dream. However, yes Im aware the boost in chakra doesn’t make it harder to break but it still acts as an inherit boost in the rank so it can be harder to break the normal. Anyways as for the question, it believe it’s pretty linear in what the technique means in terms of the limits. An example would be the Snake Constriction Technique, while it creates a snake to coil around the enemy to squeeze them to death – you cant make the snake turn into rat or bird after, it has to remain a snake but you can make the snake with fire chakra be on fire and deal illusionary burning damage. The core effect of the illusion is to paralyze or restrainment so in my head canon id assume you can switch how the snake achieves this, so i.e consuming the person inside it’s body and basically squeezing them from the inner part of the snake.



This of course is only an assumption but if im wrong let me know. I also believe you can pretty much change a lot which with the snake again, you can alter how big the snake is as well as anything else within the realms of the illusion like if the terrain is made of grass and such, you can then turn the ground into an ocean via water release infusion etc. The last part of the question…well I honestly have no clue because the only time I see Yang existing in this is causing actual bodily reactions to the opponent. The perfect example is when a Kurama brings an illusions effect to life, by breathing Yin into it to make it real but then Yang to possibly give it sentience if an animal is made or anything like that.

 

[Drackos]

If you change the environment in an illusion that buries someone alive to water, do you think you'd be able to have them feel the sensation of drowning?

And that's a good thought. My impression for this was taken from what I've talked to Reborn about. The Yang in this technique comes from the fact that you perform physical actions to subject the spirit to an illusion.

 

[Mirai]

In my head canon, yes if you actually infuse water they would feel wet and so call "drown". Of course this can be wrong and I'm looking too deep into this honestly lmao.

And ah, noted.

 

[Drackos]

Somewhat of a trick question. It actually depends on the illusion itself. So if you have an illusion that buries someone alive and induces that sensation of suffocation under the earth, then yeah you could make them feel like they're drowning. But if it's an illusion like False Surroundings, which can be altered in such a way to create a world of water with an infusion of Water chakra probably can't induce a sensation of drowning because the base illusion doesn't cause any sensation like that.

 

[Mirai]

Ah that makes sense, thanks for clearing it up.

 

[Drackos]

(Inton: Gaki no Jutsu) - Yin Release: Hungry Ghost Technique
Type: Supplementary
Rank: S
Range: N/A
Chakra Cost: N/A (+50)
Damage: N/A
Description: Hungry Ghost is a spiritual parasite created through the user’s Yin Release chakra. When using an elemental jutsu, the user will form the ram hand seal to seal the hungry ghost within their technique. Sealing the hungry ghost inside one’s technique happens within the same timeframe as their elemental technique. When the user’s technique clashes with another technique, the parasitic Yin Chakra will eat away at the chakra within the technique, weakening it by one rank. Once the hungry ghost consumes foreign chakra it is released and immediately attaches itself to the source of the foreign chakra (the opponent). From there, the parasite continues to eat away at the enemy’s chakra every time they use techniques (all techniques reduce in rank and power by 1 degree). Once the Hungry Ghost is released, its tether is immediate and cannot be blocked or circumvented by ordinary means. The effects of Hungry Ghost last for 4 turns.
Note: Can only be used 5 times per battle and cannot be used on the same target more than twice.
Note: Surges or Barriers that utilize Yin, Yang, or Yin-Yang chakra can break or prevent the tethering of the Hungry Ghost.
Note: Yin Release master can apply this technique to advanced elements and CE
Note: Hungry Ghost can only be used on S-rank techniques and below.

If you have no other questions then, we'll move right along. Next up is the Hungry Ghost. Another infusion technique, and a frightening one at that. We've discussed it somewhat already. But this technique crystallizes Yin's characteristics as a 'draining' element. While Yang gives, Yin takes away. That sort of image symmetry that comes from our discussion of Yin-Yang philosophy. See this is why it's important to know about the YY philosophical side. It gives rise to these techniques.

So the technique itself is very straight forward. The debuff itself is potent, but not outright frighteningly strong. What truly makes this technique powerful it so easily and directly tethers itself to your opponent. The spiritual tether it creates is formed in any chakra to chakra based clash. So that means you can't infuse this into a Taijutsu punch and then slap your opponent. It has to be chakra to chakra.

Do you think this technique can be applied to things like Moving Earth Core that can instantly make contact with your opponent? Like in the previous question, where do you think the Yang is in this technique?

 

[Mirai]

Lovely technique, and as you said the debuff is quite niche but its not unbeatable. The only thing a person has to really try and do is prevent techniques from clashing by outright dodging the interaction if they are able to control it. As for the question, no it doesn’t work simply because its applied on contact with the person directly but rather their chakra/techniques. So if the person is tossed into the air by this and they decided to use a lightning technique to counter it, once it clashes then the effects come to life.

The yang in this is the parasite physically attaching to the person, draining them of their chakra which causes the reduction in power as I believe Yang has draining properties too by taking away vitality from a person.

 

[Drackos]

If you have Yin or Yang, dealing with this technique becomes significantly easier. It really is a technique that separates those who have the skill from those who don't. Since the only way to block or remove it is through a surge of Yin/Yang energy. And yeah, as you said they can prevent the clash from happening. But that is difficult to do without metagaming. Since why would you want to avert your technique at the last second before they clash with an opponent's defense. That's just bad strategy unless you have a way to detect the presence of this parasite.

The Yang in this is that you're creating this spiritual parasite. It isn't just a mass of chakra that drains. It is an entity with purpose and direction, however limited that is. At least that's my interpretation.