Yellow Flash vs 3rd Raikage

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Ok, a bigger bomb should. But it also has its cons like: Longer Charge = (Raikage can use speed advantage) blitz.

So it will be practically useless.
It's like you guys forget what shadow clones or summonings are for... Distractions!! Can be used to hold off opponents while the original prepares a jutsu.

Besides it doesn't even need to be a massive tailed beast bomb, a normal sized one with senjutsu added to it will suffice.
 

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Why do you think so?

Because it was implied[ ]. There is no reason for Hachibi to think he can, as he acknowledges his resilience. That fact that it was stated he can go up against Buijuu man to man too[ ]. And the fact that all Buijuu's, whos personal durability from one another[ ](since they fired point blank) are able to tank this tech, as much as Hachibi[ ]

Gives no reason to say he can't.

It's like you guys forget what shadow clones or summonings are for... Distractions!! Can be used to hold off opponents while the original prepares a jutsu.

Its kinda hard to be a distraction when you have a big target monster charging a blast

Besides it doesn't even need to be a massive tailed beast bomb, a normal sized one with senjutsu added to it will suffice.

Which he canonically couldn't do with his skill set.
 

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Because it was implied[ ]. There is no reason for Hachibi to think he can, as he acknowledges his resilience. That fact that it was stated he can go up against Buijuu man to man too[ ]. And the fact that all Buijuu's, whos personal durability from one another[ ](since they fired point blank) are able to tank this tech.

Gives no reason to say he can't.



Its kinda hard to be a distraction when you have a monster charging a blast



Which he canonically couldn't do with his skill set.
Erm the shadow clone is the distraction. Let's not forget BM minato can just FTG if he's being charged at and then continue preparing his attack else where.

Not sure what you mean, he asked Naruto to add senjutsu to his attacks since Naruto was right there and already in sage mode. Don't try and make it sound like a more difficult feat than it is because it's not. If minato can add senjutsu to a rasengan than of course he can do it with a tailed best bomb. Naruto had never even attempted to do it before yet did it on his first attempt, so how would minato who is smarter and more skilled than Naruto have trouble adding senjutsu? If anything it may just take minato longer to prepare, but it's not something he cannot do.
 

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Because it was implied[ ]. There is no reason for Hachibi to think he can, as he acknowledges his resilience. That fact that it was stated he can go up against Buijuu man to man too[ ]. And the fact that all Buijuu's, whos personal durability from one another[ ](since they fired point blank) are able to tank this tech, as much as Hachibi[ ]

No,it was't implied.When Naruto qustioned Hachibi about that wound then Hachibi without a second though said that it might be TBB.If TBB is not effectve against Raikage as you implied then Hachibi must be aware of this fact so he has no reason to bring TBB into conversation yet Hachibi though that it might be TBB.According to manga 3rd alone fought against Hachibi only one time and Hachibi did not use TBB during that battle as conformed by Hachibi.Based on manga knowledge, 3rd fought hachibi along with a team in almost every battle and he has a tool of SO6P to easily deal with Hachibi so 3rd most likely has no need to deal with TBB.
 

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Erm the shadow clone is the distraction. Let's not forget BM minato can just FTG if he's being charged at and then continue preparing his attack else where.

Even though there is a delay in repeated teleport time. Ay has shown to try and take advantage off.

Not sure what you mean, he asked Naruto to add senjutsu to his attacks since Naruto was right there and already in sage mode. Don't try and make it sound like a more difficult feat than it is because it's not.

Actually it is difficult when you don't have to skill set to properly use Sage Mode, and then attempting to use BM with it.

If minato can add senjutsu to a rasengan than of course he can do it with a tailed best bomb.

Never said he can't add senjutsu into his attacks, as thats the whole purpose of senjutsu.

Naruto had never even attempted to do it before yet did it on his first attempt, so how would minato who is smarter and more skilled than Naruto have trouble adding senjutsu?

Um no, it took a while for Naruto chakra/senjutsu to connect with Kurama. And Kurama explained the situation of it being possible now.


First attempt[ ]

If anything it may just take minato longer to prepare, but it's not something he cannot do.

Definitely not enough time for 3rd Raikage.
 

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No,it was't implied.When Naruto qustioned Hachibi about that wound then Hachibi without a second though said that it might be TBB.If TBB is not effectve against Raikage as you implied then Hachibi must be aware of this fact so he has no reason to bring TBB into conversation yet Hachibi though that it might be TBB.According to manga 3rd alone fought against Hachibi only one time and Hachibi did not use TBB during that battle as conformed by Hachibi.Based on manga knowledge, 3rd fought hachibi along with a team in almost every battle and he has a tool of SO6P to easily deal with Hachibi so 3rd most likely has no need to deal with TBB.

Try reading viz then:

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2nd: He canonically tanked a more repetitive attack anyway via Rasenshiruken.

How is his resilience any lesser then Buijuu's.
 

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Without intel minato literally gets stomped I believe the 3rd raikage has more stamina than minato and minato can teleport do this snd that all he wants it still requires chakra so its a battle of chakra pools and raikage already has tailed beast levels according to Karin soo..plus nothing in minato arsenal is even phasing the 3rd like narutos rasenshuriken did

Minato's FTG doesn't take chakra.. he can spam it whenever he wants multiple times. He can leave the battle field whenever he feels threatened and come back if he feels safe lol plus he has incredible reaction speed and reflexes so there's no way 3rd raikage is hitting him. He could go SM and beat him like Naruto did, or put him under genjutsu summoning via ma and pa. Also 3rd can't avoid getting marked as he is a close ranged fighter and much faster fighters still got marked by Minato with full intel whereareas I dont think 3rd even has intel on Minato.
 

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Try reading viz then:

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2nd: He canonically tanked a more repetitive attack anyway via Rasenshiruken.

How is his resilience any lesser then Buijuu's.

Viz changes nothing here.Even in Viz Hachibi clearly said that " With my Bijju Bomb I think?".TBB is far stronger than FRS and seems like you forgot the fact that he was an EDO tensei,if he was alive then he would have suffered considerable damage from FRS.You are abit overrating his defence bro,even .
 

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3rd raikage will never hit him. He's not even as fast as V1 ay. Minato easily dodges this guy without FTG.

this ^^

Minato bested who?

Ay having no prior knowledge quickly analyzed Minato's use of ftg.

Bee predicted his movements and countered ftg.

The fact of the matter IS, your scan is meaningless and BEE already dehyped Minato's use of ftg.

They had intel on Minato.. and still couldnt touch him. I just dont see how Minato can be hurt here.
 

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Viz changes nothing here.Even in Viz Hachibi clearly said that " With my Bijju Bomb I think?".TBB is far stronger than FRS and seems like you forgot the fact that he was an EDO tensei,if he was alive then he would have suffered considerable damage from FRS.You are abit overrating his defence bro,even .

1. Naruto asked how he got a scar with his resilience body. Hacibi thought it might be TBB that might gave him a scar. How is this even hard to understand.

2. Proof that TBB is stronger than FRS? There is none. I have proof that FRS is a more repetitive attack.

3. Edo Tensei was already proven that it can only put the user close to their prime.

4. You are abit underrating his defense, while misinterpreting Edo skin to damage output.
 

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3rd raikage will never hit him. He's not even as fast as V1 ay. Minato easily dodges this guy without FTG.

The qustion is how can Minato hurt 3rd?
 

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Such scenarios shouldn't be created as we have never seen minato go up against someone he can't damage...! he fought obito and damaged him, was confident about his tech against jubito and went in with a SM rasengan against madara (implying he could have damaged him if hit....!)... i just hope madara starts using susano so atleast we get a clear idea of what can minato do against strong defenses....! since he has never encountered anyone he can't damage so it's impossible to say what he is capable of in strength department....! and rasengan is his signature move like kakashi's is raikiri, that doesn't mean he only has rasengan....!

yeah u r right. thats why Minatos arsenal is not shown much yet.
 

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Even though there is a delay in repeated teleport time. Ay has shown to try and take advantage off.



Actually it is difficult when you don't have to skill set to properly use Sage Mode, and then attempting to use BM with it.



Never said he can't add senjutsu into his attacks, as thats the whole purpose of senjutsu.



Um no, it took a while for Naruto chakra/senjutsu to connect with Kurama. And Kurama explained the situation of it being possible now.


First attempt[ ]



Definitely not enough time for 3rd Raikage.
What delay? The fact that it was said minato could wipe out a platoon of ninja in an instant what's me believe other wise. Or am I forgetting something, you're going to have to show me the exact scan and quote of someone saying there is a delay in repeated teleportation. And no I don't want to hear that it's just an assumption/theory on your part. Ay wanted to surprise attack minato by not giving him time to react by already being at the kunai that minato planned to teleport to, unfortunately for him that still didn't work.


It's nothing to do with skill set, he's a perfect sage... doesn't get much more skillful than that.'its about how long he can last and maintain sage mode. Minato has no problem with chakra and nature energy balancing, plus Minatos chakra control is one of the greatest.

Kurama is the one that told him he could enter sage mode and BM simultaneously. Naruto didn't know before which is why he was surprised when Kurama told him he could. Hence why Naruto was amazed that entering sage mode is even faster in BM.

If Narutos shadow clone was enough after making over 100 clones which results to each clone being much weaker than the original. I don't see why 1 minato clone won't be able to hold him off or why a food card destroyer won't keep him pinned down. Especially when minato is much after than the Raikage. And FTG solves all problems, teleport elsewhere, prepare and then come back.
 

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1. Naruto asked how he got a scar with his resilience body. Hacibi thought it might be TBB that might gave him a scar. How is this even hard to understand.

2. Proof that TBB is stronger than FRS? There is none. I have proof that FRS is a more repetitive attack.

3. Edo Tensei was already proven that it can only put the user close to their prime.

4. You are abit underrating his defense, while misinterpreting Edo skin to damage output.

You said he would have tanked TBB's considering the fact that he fought Hachibi on more than one occasion which means that if Raikage really tanked a TBB during any of their battles then Hachibi must be aware of the fact that it won't work on his so he would never bring TBB into discussion coz Hachibi knows that it won't work on him.If I know something won't work on you/can't hurt you then I have no reason to think of it as a reason for your wound. Simple as that.

Are you seriously asking me to prove that TBB is stronger than FRS?

His hand has no cracks on it and you can clearly see that in first panel of that page and even in that panel there are no cracks on his hand exept around the place where Naruto's Rasengan made contact with his body.Rasengan managed to put cracks on his body even though he has his defence which is more than enough to say that his defence isn't as great as you think.
 

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You said he would have tanked TBB's considering the fact that he fought Hachibi on more than one occasion which means that if Raikage really tanked a TBB during any of their battles then Hachibi must be aware of the fact that it won't work on his so he would never bring TBB into discussion coz Hachibi knows that it won't work on him.If I know something won't work on you/can't hurt you then I have no reason to think of it as a reason for your wound. Simple as that.


@bold, I said that? Where?

Are you seriously asking me to prove that TBB is stronger than FRS?

Yes. TBB has shown more impressive range cover, thats it. Prove it that it is stronger then FRS. Otherwise conceded that it can match the effects of FRS.

His hand has no cracks on it and you can clearly see that in first panel of that page and even in that panel there are no cracks on his hand exept around the place where Naruto's Rasengan made contact with his body.Rasengan managed to put cracks on his body even though he has his defence which is more than enough to say that his defence isn't as great as you think.

Thats call in inconsistent reanimated drawing. Kishimoto is ok to not having to draw cracks every single time. Kishimoto will make it clear when damage output to a Edo is being input. So once again your just nitpicking a picture and already ignoring that he already took a much powerful attack, which Naruto stated "not even a scratch".
 

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The qustion is how can Minato hurt 3rd?

Minato has shown that he can teleport anything touching one of his tagged kunai's. He simply tosses the kunai and raikage then sends teleports him to the tag iin the ocean. Raikage loses by BFR U_U.

Or, Minato uses RDS because apparently it's now acceptable that suicide move = victory if you survive a few minutes after your opponent is dead.

Other than that, I'm sure he can find a way with a combination of toads, seals and rasengan. Maybe he does what naruto did, who knows.
 

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Nothing alive minato has in his arsenal hurts raikage. Minato gets beat at his own game and outlasted
 
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