Yata Mirror's loophole?

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Kishi is not really specific when it comes to shit like these. I mean, I think it's pretty much left to the readers to think for themselves.
 

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So you honestly believe that Itachi can react to lightspeed? Like really?

1. Lightning is not Lightspeed.
2. Manga facts are suggesting that yes, he can. There's more proof for than there is against.
 

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We see in this panel that Sasuke is able to pass through the Yata Mirror when Itachi was walking toward him
Itachi let Sasuke not be harmed by Yata's reflection in that scene because Yata Mirror wasn't out anymore I think.
Only Susano'o was. Itachi let it down because he wanted to give Amateratsu to Sasuke. There wasn't any fighting anymore.

Yata Mirror being defensive against threats only is the same thing as Gaara's automatic sand gourd shield defense mechanism.
Gaara's sand : will it still guard Gaara's body if you are just trying to walk near him or will it still come up?
It is his mother's will so if his mother thinks it will be something dangerous then she will defend , but if she doesn't then she wont. Its pretty simple actually.

Kabuto's DSM sound genjutsu did affect Itachi , but Itachi still fought through it . I don't think Yata was out in that moment.

Yata Mirror and Susano'o are two completely different things. I bet Itachi could probably bring Yata Mirror out without Susano'o since Susano'o is his own chakra and MS jutsu , but where does Yata really stand on the weapon wielding scale?
 

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1. Lightning is not Lightspeed.
2. Manga facts are suggesting that yes, he can. There's more proof for than there is against.

yet he cannot react to Kabuto's White Rage

"every jutsu has a weakness" right? Yet he didn't pull out his yata mirror or try to destroy the orb.

anyways I don't see the point on arguing how fast Itachi can react because I'm almost certain neither of us would reach a consensus. So I'd rather we stick with the topic of the thread.
 

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yet he cannot react to Kabuto's White Rage

"every jutsu has a weakness" right? Yet he didn't pull out his yata mirror or try to destroy the orb.

anyways I don't see the point on arguing how fast Itachi can react because I'm almost certain neither of us would reach a consensus. So I'd rather we stick with the topic of the thread.

I already responded to your topic, but you did not respond to that.
 

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2. Manga facts are suggesting that yes, he can. There's more proof for than there is against.

BUHAHAHHAAHA
Nope.jpg

can react to Lighting,yet cant react to Kabuto speedblitz :|
#manga phact
 

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BUHAHAHHAAHA
Nope.jpg

can react to Lighting,yet cant react to Kabuto speedblitz :|
#manga phact

Then you agree it's equally as likely that he can react to it as he cannot. The feats are divided 50/50.

How do you explain the kirin situation?
 
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I already responded to your topic, but you did not respond to that.

Well in regards to that comment, I agree, Kishi probably hasn't thought that much through and it's likely that my theory is wrong altogether.

This theory was merely to present some ideas to possible flaws within Yata.

I honestly do not believe and highly doubt that Yata Mirror has no weaknesses whatsoever.

One example is that some people believe that Yata Mirror protects Itachi from all sides and is able to mold it's form....that's something I don't believe.

Changing properties is vague and doesn't conclude it being able to change its form.
 

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Well in regards to that comment, I agree, Kishi probably hasn't thought that much through and it's likely that my theory is wrong altogether.

This theory was merely to present some ideas to possible flaws within Yata.

I honestly do not believe and highly doubt that Yata Mirror has no weaknesses whatsoever.

One example is that some people believe that Yata Mirror protects Itachi from all sides and is able to mold it's form....that's something I don't believe.

Changing properties is vague and doesn't conclude it being able to change its form.

Well there is already reasonable proof that Yata molds around the user. However, I do agree that it does not protect 360 degrees. It just has a wide frontal defense that.
 

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Well there is already reasonable proof that Yata molds around the user. However, I do agree that it does not protect 360 degrees. It just has a wide frontal defense that.

well the only proof people use is this image

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the image isn't even conclusive and can be interpreted differently. To me it just seems like the aura of the shield being blown back from the force of the explosion, making it seems like it's surrounding Itachi.

even in the anime the shield remains in its original form in the same scene.

Yes the anime may not be the best source, but it's a more reliable reference than many interpretations of that image from members of the base.
 

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Changing properties is vague and doesn't conclude it being able to change its form.

I bet it could change forms and properties, but it probably has a certain amount of time to wait for it to change shape again kind of like the trade offs for Pein's Deva Path using his jutsu after waiting 5 seconds and Kamui totaling 5 minutes.

Well there is already reasonable proof that Yata molds around the user. However, I do agree that it does not protect 360 degrees. It just has a wide frontal defense that.

I think Yata Mirror can move around like Gaara's sand defense .
 

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Great thread and good analysis. But like others, I think Kishi would elaborate so much on this.
 

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I see what your getting at and i agree to a point,i also agree with NecroMancer4276

If itachi perceives it as a thread and it is of viable matter then it can be blocked.

Such as elements,psychical weapons.

Though i am certain that pure chakra based attacks could possibly overcome it.

Not destroy the shield itself as it is not a psychical thing and thus can't be destroyed.

But,if the attack goes through then i guess the user wouldn't ever have the chance to use the mirror again anyway since they wold most likely be dead.
 
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