Yata Mirror's loophole?

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I was thinking about this recently and I'm sure the argument on the limits of Yata Mirror will never cease, but bear with me on this. It's quite a big stretch and is all hypothetical.

First off here's the description of its abilities in the databook and the scan from the manga.

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In both it says it has the ability to repel any attacks. We've never seen its true potential, but for the most part we know it was able to block Sasuke's kunai.

But here is where the loophole is. It can only block something that is meant to be an attack, something that is threatening the user of Yata Mirror.

An attack can only come from a sentient creature, whether it be an animal, insect, or human.

Meaning anything that doesn't have a potential threat to the user can freely move through Yata Mirror.

We see in this panel that Sasuke is able to pass through the Yata Mirror when Itachi was walking toward him

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So my assumption is that because Yata is able to change its properties, it means it is able to sense the attack and also decides what is defined as an attack.


So what does that entail? As I said before, and attack is something that is created from a sentient creature. It does not mean that Yata can block all threats the Earth holds, such as drowning in the ocean or being devoured by a hurricane.....because those are not considered attacks, merely unfortunate events.

-Which means one could walk through the Yata mirror and then attack from within, rather than jumping in with an attack.

-It also means something like Kamui is an exception, for it is not posing a threat to the user. The threat of Kamui is being left in the dimension to starve to death, not the ability itself.



-Something like Genjutsu might not be blocked because it can be both offensive and defensive. The only offensive jutsu I can think of is Tsukuyomi because it damages the mind, but something that is meant to control or restrain such as Kabuto's Genjutsu doesn't injure the mind nor the body.



-It could also mean that attacks targeting the shield could possibly break it. What I mean is, say for instance the shield only becomes immune to all attacks if only those attacks are focused on the holder of Yata. But if the target is focused on Yata, then there is no threat to the user, thus Yata Mirror is left vulnerable.


-Bansho Tenin cannot be blocked....it doesn't pose any harm to the user, it merely manipulates the gravity around the user.





Again, this is all very hypothetical and just trying to give some ideas to possible weaknesses of the Yata Mirror
 
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I doubt Kishi would be so specific. When he wrote the hyperbole he most likely intended it to mean it blocks any threat, regardless of its intended target or purpose. Kishi wouldn't let a rock slide pass through the Yata mirror.
 

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itachi controls susanoo so he can decide who enters it and who doesnt, there are no loopholes
 

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itachi controls susanoo so he can decide who enters it and who doesnt, there are no loopholes

is that why he didn't block any of Kabuto's Sage Arts?
 

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well, i doubt Itachi will simply let someone just walk on through Yata Mirror. lol, but I see what you mean.
 

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This is a very interesting observation. good job.
 

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You actually have a very interesting point. Just what does the Yata Mirror define as an attack? How does it know when to change its properties and allow what through? I don't think you can attack the shield in hopes of breaking it without directing attacking the user. But I agree moves like Kamui or Bansho Tenin would work because their not actual attacks. If Yata Mirror's hype is able to defend any attack, then it's fair to say moves that aren't really attacks should be able to work since that still fits within the databook reasonably IMO.
 

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nice thread dude...! but it's way too much speculation...! i would rather say that it can only block attack that are physical.! meaning attacks that collide head on with the opponent.! attack like kamui or fuin jutsus or genjutsus can not be blocked since they are not physical...!
 

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manga scan of itachi bringing out yata mirror during the fight? yata wasnt even out so of course the attacks wont get blocked


So what you're saying is that Itachi couldn't react to the attack and didn't have time to block it.....ok I like that answer
 

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maybe he felt that he didn't need to block the attacks, since he was immortal at the time.
 

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So what you're saying is that Itachi couldn't react to the attack and didn't have time to block it.....ok I like that answer
um no, he reacted to kirin and all of kabuto's attacks are activated slow compared to it, itachi simply wasnt going all out as stated U_U
 

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Would be interesting if kamui wasn't defined as an attack.
 

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um no, he reacted to kirin and all of kabuto's attacks are activated at the pace of snail, itachi simply wasnt going all out as stated U_U

Kirin was floating above him for a good ten seconds before Sasuke let it loose.

and I'm not gonna argue with you because you're way to stubborn to accept any flaws in Itachi.
 

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Kirin was floating above him for a good ten seconds before Sasuke let it loose.

and I'm not gonna argue with you because you're way to stubborn to accept any flaws in Itachi.

Doesn't matter how long he looked at it for, Susano'o wasn't up until Kirin was already striking at him at 1/1000th of a second.

Point a gun at my head for 10 minutes and i still won't have a better chance of dodging the bullet.
 

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Kirin was floating above him for a good ten seconds before Sasuke let it loose.

and I'm not gonna argue with you because you're way to stubborn to accept any flaws in Itachi.

kirin reached the ground in 1/1000 of second and itachi intercepted it U_U

i am not stubborn as i accept that itachi has one flaw as he cannot spam his attacks U_U
 

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Doesn't matter how long he looked at it for, Susano'o wasn't up until Kirin was already striking at him at 1/1000th of a second.

Point a gun at my head for 10 minutes and i still won't have a better chance of dodging the bullet.


he didn't dodge it, he blocked it.....just like sasuke blocked A's Liger Bomb and the Susanoo didn't reveal itself only after the attack went through.

you can't seriously believe that Itachi can dodge something at lightspeed.....

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he didn't dodge it, he blocked it.....just like sasuke blocked A's Liger Bomb and the Susanoo didn't reveal itself only after the attack went through.

you can't seriously believe that Itachi can dodge something at lightspeed.....

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So you're saying his Susano'o was invisible for 10 seconds?
 

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So you're saying his Susano'o was invisible for 10 seconds?

if you reread the chapter, all the panels with Itachi were zoomed in

you couldn't even tell if he activated susanoo or not

obviously he was in the process of activating it while sasuke was talking.......it would make more sense than being able to react to lightspeed.

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if you reread the chapter, all the panels with Itachi were zoomed in

you couldn't even tell if he activated susanoo or not

obviously he was in the process of activating it while sasuke was talking.......it would make more sense than being able to react to lightspeed.

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And Sasuke with his Sharingan, and both Zetsu halves were unable to see this?
 
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