Yata Mirror is unbreakable.

Draphsin

Kage in the Making 👑
Legendary
Joined
Jun 12, 2012
Messages
14,296
Reaction score
1,200
\
That's one of my points, Yata Mirror changes it's attributes to anything that stops lightning and so it stops Raikiri, just like it stopped Kirin. It's not like I'm making things up here, it's Manga fact.

I know, it was a rhetorical question directed at him :rolleyes: :p
 

Kyno

Member
Joined
Aug 28, 2011
Messages
417
Reaction score
24
Re: Yata Mirror and Totsuka Sword are supernatural items...

Thank you. #chihuisa*****
 

Joon

DalbitEcho
Supreme
Joined
Aug 4, 2011
Messages
23,681
Reaction score
1,480
Re: Yata Mirror and Totsuka Sword are supernatural items...

I thank you. However, this weapons are "fueled" with Chakra to stablize. I don't know, made that up. But hey! Every Jutsu has a weakness. My theory was sound.
 

Recable

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Regular
Joined
Aug 15, 2012
Messages
1,193
Reaction score
82
Ok I checked the yeta mirror could indeed turn into dust release because it can turn into any nature but if it does tht the caster being onooki controls the molecules so there for he could take the yeta mirror from its user that being itachi

I've checked tht is only loop hole with yeta mirror because while it can change to anything it cannot give te user the chakra affinities to control the substance it changed to


So yes while onooki cannot nesscairly destroy yeta mirror he can control it to either become nothing at all (it would prob des pawn at some time) or try to gain control over it


Fact here
"Dust Release (塵遁, Jinton; Viz "Particle Style") is an advanced nature kekkei tōta, an advanced version of kekkei genkai, which is created through simultaneous use of the earth, wind, and fire natures. The techniques of this nature initially form as a small three-dimensional object (e.g. a cube, a cone, etc.) composed of chakra that forms between the user's hands. When the technique is released, the form expands and surrounds the target. This nature allows the user to manipulate molecules, giving them the ability to disintegrate anything on a molecular level within the boundaries of the three-dimensional form."



So there for there is a loop hole into any yeta mirror theory

If you're saying that he can control Yata Mirror as it might become Dust release to block Dust release that's not true. Yata Mirror for one doesn't need to turn into Dust release but anything can counters it. If it did turn into Dust release then it still wouldn't be controlled by Onoki...
 

Uchiha812

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Regular
Joined
Mar 31, 2013
Messages
1,774
Reaction score
81
Re: Yata Mirror and Totsuka Sword are supernatural items...

Thank you for making that point
Maybe now some people will understand
 

Fanta

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
Nov 15, 2012
Messages
7,084
Reaction score
423
Re: Yata Mirror and Totsuka Sword are supernatural items...

I thank you. However, this weapons are "fueled" with Chakra to stablize. I don't know, made that up. But hey! Every Jutsu has a weakness. My theory was sound.

The weakness is that Itachi can only use it for a very short amount of time before he collapses.
 

TheTailedSage

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
Oct 9, 2012
Messages
5,140
Reaction score
319
Do you have any proof or at least slight evidence of him not using Yata Mirror to block Kirin?

The fact that he was unconscious after the attack is pretty self explainatory, if yata was used it would have deflected the move no diff but that wasn't the case. Plus its a manga fact yata only protects the front
 

Dęvîa Puęrî

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
Dec 4, 2011
Messages
8,478
Reaction score
409
If you're saying that he can control Yata Mirror as it might become Dust release to block Dust release that's not true. Yata Mirror for one doesn't need to turn into Dust release but anything can counters it. If it did turn into Dust release then it still wouldn't be controlled by Onoki...

How wouldn't it be controlled by onooki he controls the monlicules of dust release

Jinton has no weaknesses or something tht can counter it ...
 

Draphsin

Kage in the Making 👑
Legendary
Joined
Jun 12, 2012
Messages
14,296
Reaction score
1,200
Ok I checked the yeta mirror could indeed turn into dust release because it can turn into any nature but if it does tht the caster being onooki controls the molecules so there for he could take the yeta mirror from its user that being itachi

I've checked tht is only loop hole with yeta mirror because while it can change to anything it cannot give te user the chakra affinities to control the substance it changed to


So yes while onooki cannot nesscairly destroy yeta mirror he can control it to either become nothing at all (it would prob des pawn at some time) or try to gain control over it


Fact here
"Dust Release (塵遁, Jinton; Viz "Particle Style") is an advanced nature kekkei tōta, an advanced version of kekkei genkai, which is created through simultaneous use of the earth, wind, and fire natures. The techniques of this nature initially form as a small three-dimensional object (e.g. a cube, a cone, etc.) composed of chakra that forms between the user's hands. When the technique is released, the form expands and surrounds the target. This nature allows the user to manipulate molecules, giving them the ability to disintegrate anything on a molecular level within the boundaries of the three-dimensional form."



So there for there is a loop hole into any yeta mirror theory

Do you now know the meaning of "render any attack useless"

You have no proof that onoki can control jinton that's been negated by yata mirror, for all we know the jutsu could just automatically deactivate. Point is that yata mirror changes into anything in order to negate the attack.

If onoki is still able to manipulate jinton then the attack isnt negated now is it? Im sorry but theres no loophole here :'(.
 

Kyno

Member
Joined
Aug 28, 2011
Messages
417
Reaction score
24
Re: Yata Mirror and Totsuka Sword are supernatural items...

I thank you. However, this weapons are "fueled" with Chakra to stablize. I don't know, made that up. But hey! Every Jutsu has a weakness. My theory was sound.

Please tell me where it says that it is fueled by chakra. The only confirmed chakra needed is to use susanoo.
 

Kyno

Member
Joined
Aug 28, 2011
Messages
417
Reaction score
24
Re: Yata Mirror and Totsuka Sword are supernatural items...

The weakness is that Itachi can only use it for a very short amount of time before he collapses.

Itachi used it for a bit, while he was dying of sickness, after a full battle. He probably has a good full 5 mins of use at least from full chakra.
 

Owarij

Kage in the Making 👑
Legendary
Joined
Oct 3, 2011
Messages
13,322
Reaction score
990
Re: Yata Mirror and Totsuka Sword are supernatural items...

I thank you. However, this weapons are "fueled" with Chakra to stablize. I don't know, made that up. But hey! Every Jutsu has a weakness. My theory was sound.


The items aren't even chakra related as far as we know.. they aren't a jutsu, They didn't come with Susanno.. and they most definitely existed long before Madara , ie the first ms user..... people don't even believe the items exist anymore, and its passed off as myth and folklore, they have no true size, no form according to the datbook.. Itachi could have found them as anything, some golden pebbles....

You're right on the fact that if Itachi chooses to wield them in susanno, he can't keep it up for too long ...however that's not what i'm arguing.. i'm very aware of itachi's horrid stamina
 

Recable

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Regular
Joined
Aug 15, 2012
Messages
1,193
Reaction score
82
The fact that he was unconscious after the attack is pretty self explainatory, if yata was used it would have deflected the move no diff but that wasn't the case. Plus its a manga fact yata only protects the front

Itachi was sick looking from having to use Susano'o in his weak state and the fact that he was ill. Not because of the Kirin, if Susano'o blocked Kirin he still wouldn't have had any effect to himself as it's been blocked by Susano'o...

i think the idoits saying it can be broken should be ignored.

This is one of the reasons why itachi is top 5.

Give the man his credit instead of hateing on him

I'm not sure about top 5 but defiantly top 10. :)

Do you now know the meaning of "render any attack useless"

You have no proof that onoki can control jinton that's been negated by yata mirror, for all we know the jutsu could just automatically deactivate. Point is that yata mirror changes into anything in order to negate the attack.

If onoki is still able to manipulate jinton then the attack isnt negated now is it? Im sorry but theres no loophole here :'(.

Exactly this here, this is why Onoki's Dust release still wont work.
 

itachi izanami

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Regular
Joined
May 13, 2012
Messages
1,342
Reaction score
88
Re: Yata Mirror and Totsuka Sword are supernatural items...

Itachi used it for a bit, while he was dying of sickness, after a full battle. He probably has a good full 5 mins of use at least from full chakra.

indeed sir..
 

itachi izanami

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Regular
Joined
May 13, 2012
Messages
1,342
Reaction score
88
Re: Yata Mirror and Totsuka Sword are supernatural items...

Itachi used it for a bit, while he was dying of sickness, after a full battle. He probably has a good full 5 mins of use at least from full chakra.

indeed sir..
 

Dęvîa Puęrî

Sannin of the Scrolls 📜
Elite
Joined
Dec 4, 2011
Messages
8,478
Reaction score
409
If you're saying that he can control Yata Mirror as it might become Dust release to block Dust release that's not true. Yata Mirror for one doesn't need to turn into Dust release but anything can counters it. If it did turn into Dust release then it still wouldn't be controlled by Onoki...

Also it was other guy who said yeta mirror can turn into dust release to block it

The only way u can counter dust release is with another dust release user being tht the mirror while it can turn into dust release it however cannot turn its user into a dust release user

So the jinton user would be I control of all the monlicules so there for he would yes be Incontrol of what the yeta mirror turns into next he could even make the yeta mirror into nothing but
Like u said its a spiritual weapon so it most likely would respawb eventually like the same lines of a bijuu tht died inside its junjirchi
 

JaffaTalk

Leaf Village Regular 🍃
Regular
Joined
Jan 31, 2013
Messages
591
Reaction score
30
Re: Yata Mirror and Totsuka Sword are supernatural items...

they're ultimate, indeed:scorps:
 

Recable

Jōnin Strategist 🧠
Regular
Joined
Aug 15, 2012
Messages
1,193
Reaction score
82
Also it was other guy who said yeta mirror can turn into dust release to block it

The only way u can counter dust release is with another dust release user being tht the mirror while it can turn into dust release it however cannot turn its user into a dust release user

So the jinton user would be I control of all the monlicules so there for he would yes be Incontrol of what the yeta mirror turns into next he could even make the yeta mirror into nothing but
Like u said its a spiritual weapon so it most likely would respawb eventually like the same lines of a bijuu tht died inside its junjirchi

I can see where you're coming from but just because the Yata Mirror changes into Dust release (if it does) to block Dust release that doesn't mean Onoki could control it as it's still equipped to Itachi's Susano'o and as Itachi controls Susano'o he also controls the Yata Mirror.
 
Top