Yata Mirror Grossly Underated- HardCounter to Dust Release

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Exactly, he was fooling the readers as well, Kishi was just giving us a perspective of pre-MS Sasuke. This was before we ever knew about PS, BM and the power levels of NV, we just assumed no one would have stronger ninjutsu than explosive tags and Kirin. He also said Naruto was a Senju which is false.

You can't say he was fooling readers. If he would lie, he lies to the people around him. Who was around him ? White zetsu. White zetsu is actually a person who got trapped in IT, so he is BZ's agent. He has no reason to lie to White Zetsu.
 

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Madara's sword turns Yata into dust. FACT. 1) databook 2) kishi says so 3) madara says so. Not only that, Madara is a reference to Indra, who is a Lord of the Heavens in Hindu religion

2) Show me proof that Kishi said Madara's sword turns Yata into dust.
3) WHo gives a **** about what Madz says?
4) Naruto is Japanese not Indian. If you want to believe PS beats YATA, go read Indrato. its an Indian manga. Very good.
 

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You can't say he was fooling readers. If he would lie, he lies to the people around him. Who was around him ? White zetsu. White zetsu is actually a person who got trapped in IT, so he is BZ's agent. He has no reason to lie to White Zetsu.

Well the author was anyways, calling Yata the strongest at that time was acceptable because the power levels were so low, Kirin was the strongest jutsu we had witnessed by then. This was when Amaterasu was considered the strongest ninjutsu and you saw what happened later.
 

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2) Show me proof that Kishi said Madara's sword turns Yata into dust.
3) WHo gives a **** about what Madz says?
4) Naruto is Japanese not Indian. If you want to believe PS beats YATA, go read Indrato. its an Indian manga. Very good.

Manga says it wipes out everything in the universe, Yata is in the universe. U_U
 

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Well the author was anyways, calling Yata the strongest at that time was acceptable because the power levels were so low, Kirin was the strongest jutsu we had witnessed by then. This was when Amaterasu was considered the strongest ninjutsu and you know how that went down.

It still doesn't change BZ's credibility and assessment considering his role in the manga.
 

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Manga says it wipes out everything in the universe, Yata is in the universe. U_U

Yata is not in the Universe. Yata is from another dimension because it is a SPIRITUAL weapon. SPIRIT. Not from this plane of existence. Got it? Yata negs GG
 

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Yata is not in the Universe. Yata is from another dimension because it is a SPIRITUAL weapon. SPIRIT. Not from this plane of existence. Got it? Yata negs GG

So post a manga scan of a jutsu losing it's meaning then
 

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So post a manga scan of a jutsu losing it's meaning then

Don't have to. History, significance, databook, Kishi already proves that Yata is what its described in the databook.
 

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Don't have to. History, significance, databook, Kishi already proves that Yata is what its described in the databook.

Yata proved to deflect snakes and an explosion something a normal shield can do. I can state that Yata has no relevent or significant feats and be correct. However you can't prove the DB to be fact. By your logic, Kamui can envelop Yata
 

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Yata proved to deflect snakes and an explosion something a normal shield can do. I can state that Yata has no relevent or significant feats and be correct. However you can't prove the DB to be fact. By your logic, Kamui can envelop Yata

That is bold claim. Show me a "normal" shield deflecting a hydra's attack. Normal shields got no feats. lol.

DB can't be proven as fact? then what the **** is DB for?

If we went with your way, 3rd kazekage gets wrecked by Temari because he got no feats. Mu? Meh no feats either. He ain't good as what people say he is.

BZ + Data book + Kishi + spirit proves Yata deflects everything.

What backs Kamui up? Only DB. LOL.
 

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That is bold claim. Show me a "normal" shield deflecting a hydra's attack. Normal shields got no feats. lol.

DB can't be proven as fact? then what the **** is DB for?

If we went with your way, 3rd kazekage gets wrecked by Temari because he got no feats. Mu? Meh no feats either. He ain't good as what people say he is.

BZ + Data book + Kishi + spirit proves Yata deflects everything.

What backs Kamui up? Only DB. LOL.

not about to debate with a nuub that tried to discredit the fact that "I rely on feats"

When you post a manga scan of a relevant feat, then I'll be convinced. Kamui has proven it's DB entry with feats
 

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BZ + Data book + Kishi + spirit proves Yata deflects everything.

He still can't put a scan to prove it.
The absolute believer , no need to argue , he is blind.


1) Is English your first language?
2) The Bijuu bomb is not a Hydra attack
3) That jutsu did not deflect the bomb

3/Yes it did , read the scan , or do you need the definition of "deflect" and "change trajectory".
 
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not about to debate with a nuub that tried to discredit the fact that "I rely on feats"

When you post a manga scan of a relevant feat, then I'll be convinced. Kamui has proven it's DB entry with feats

Kamui did not prove your interpretation of the DB entry with its feats.

There is no point asking for manga scans because Itachi's life was short lived and we did not get to see Yata much but does that mean its not like what BZ or DB says?

This is your logic.

BZ and DB knows what Yata can do but it didn't get much screen time. Because of that, you discredit BZ and DB statements.

I also won't argue. You're in a STATE OF DENIAL and you can't save people from that kind of thought. If people want to believe Bill Gates is their daddy, you can't help it. But its best you go to an insane asylum.
 

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Kamui did not prove your interpretation of the DB entry with its feats.

There is no point asking for manga scans because Itachi's life was short lived and we did not get to see Yata much but does that mean its not like what BZ or DB says?

This is your logic.

BZ and DB knows what Yata can do but it didn't get much screen time. Because of that, you discredit BZ and DB statements.

I also won't argue. You're in a STATE OF DENIAL and you can't save people from that kind of thought. If people want to believe Bill Gates is their daddy, you can't help it. But its best you go to an insane asylum.

Lol , you are in denial and say that he is in denial , such an interesting discussion , you are the believer.
Those who believe in something unproved are insane.

Just one exemple:

Temari can blow the universe according to the databook , because you believe in everything the databook says , that means that you take that as a fact.
So now , what would happen for Itachi if Temari blows the universe?

1) Is English your first language?
2) The Bijuu bomb is not a Hydra attack
3) That jutsu did not deflect the bomb

2/Do you think that hydra attack>bijuu bomb associated with the sword that can destroy everything in the universe (you'll agree , because you believe in every words that a villain says) ? :what:
3/Yes it did , read the scan , or do you need the definition of "deflect" and "change trajectory".
 
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1) Is English your first language?
2) The Bijuu bomb is not a Hydra attack
3) That jutsu did not deflect the bomb

Are you blind ?

1. It deflected the bijuu bomb to the other side of the lake

2. Bijuu bomb > hydra attack

3. Shield used is "normal" because Orochimaru also had access to it

Showed better feats than Yata. Stop being in denial, Itachi doesn't even make top 10
 

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Kamui did not prove your interpretation of the DB entry with its feats.

There is no point asking for manga scans because Itachi's life was short lived and we did not get to see Yata much but does that mean its not like what BZ or DB says?

This is your logic.

BZ and DB knows what Yata can do but it didn't get much screen time. Because of that, you discredit BZ and DB statements.

I also won't argue. You're in a STATE OF DENIAL and you can't save people from that kind of thought. If people want to believe Bill Gates is their daddy, you can't help it. But its best you go to an insane asylum.

Actually Kamui has proved it's entry the only thing that Kamui failed to stop was Obito and that's because Obito already went to the SHARED dimension that both eyes share. Other than that, name me anything else Kamui failed to snipe

No there's no point in asking for scans because you have none Lol

Now let me use your shitty logic

Since Hiruzen did not get much screen time in Shippuden it does not mean he cannot use Amateratsu and Sussano because

1. The DB said he was the God of Shinobi and mastered every Jutsu in Kohona

2. Uchiha Techs are considered Kohona techs since the reside in Kohona

3. Iruka said so
 

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Actually Kamui has proved it's entry the only thing that Kamui failed to stop was Obito and that's because Obito already went to the SHARED dimension that both eyes share. Other than that, name me anything else Kamui failed to snipe

No there's no point in asking for scans because you have none Lol

Now let me use your shitty logic

Since Hiruzen did not get much screen time in Shippuden it does not mean he cannot use Amateratsu and Sussano because

1. The DB said he was the God of Shinobi and mastered every Jutsu in Kohona

2. Uchiha Techs are considered Kohona techs since the reside in Kohona

3. Iruka said so

The logic of a believer is crazy , you pointed that very well.
 

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The thing I have a question about is where the attack begins. Would all of it be considered an attack, therefore Yata could block it? Or is the explosion the attack, therefore the "carrier" could bypass Yata since that by itself is not harmful to Itachi. Similar to Kamui, it's not an attack to walk through a defense.
 
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