Nah, I'm know what I'm talking about. I used the situations when itachi used yata and the drawings in that situation to show it's "weak point". Instead of calling my thread meaningless, try disproving me first, fanboy.
Yata doesn't block everything.
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CT was not directed at itachi, Itachi never used yata mirror in his edo state. You fail with your own post and logic.
What the hell are you talking about? Itachi can make yata mirror to a shield or any thing he likes. He can even make it circular and have it cover him completely. Your an idiot if you think the sound and light can get through yata mirror, when the AUTHOR OF THE MANGA states that yata mirror makes all jutsu meaningless regarding of the nature. Can you be more ignorant and arrogant than saying sound and light will get through yata because you can see through? Are you that short sighted? Do you know how itachis power works? You obviously dont man.
Was he not being sucked in by the gravity? If Yata hype was true he could have simply allowed Sussano to be sucked in with Yata equipped and had CT lose it's meaning, but you know why that didn't happen? Because it's not possible :|
And you post regarding him not using Yata in his edo state is irrelevant due to the fact that just because he didn't use it doesn't mean he didn't have it as we saw him seal Nagato with Totsuka
OH, I'm sorry. I guess you don't know anything about light and sound, because you're a complete idiot. Let me clear it up for you.
in his battle with sasuke, he was speaking with sasuke and with orochimaru.
In his battle with nagato, nagato was also being heard. Though after the conversation itachi was seen outside susanoo, when he first used it, it appeared that he was inside.
So what's my point? My point is that sound can get through yata mirror. Remember that yata covers itachi completely. If sound can get through, then any sound-based atack(such as those sound genjutsus) and any mechanical wave-like atack(with similar frequency and wave-length) would also get through.
Second- Itachi can still be seen when using yata, even when yata is right in front of him. That means that light gets through. We all know that to see some object, light has to "hit" this object and be reflected. Our eyes "capture" that reflected light, and then we can see it.
My point? My point is that any light-based atack(just like solar flare of dbz(couldn't think of anything else)) and any electromagnetic wave-like atack(with similar frequency and wave-length) would also get through.
This is a based on the drawings OF THE AUTHOR
The shield doesn't have a mind on his own to identify what are atack and what are not? Like" oh, that's an atack, I'mma block it". "Oh, that? Nah, that's cool". If you have a shield, and you put it on your face, it will block everything that was going in that direction. If someone tells you "Hey, catch", and it hits the shield, it will be "blocked", being an atack or not.
The shield won't know if it's an atack or not.
And there is nothing to indicate that itachi can shield something, and let other things go through. When he let sasuke inside his SUSANOO, the shield was nowhere to be seen. And the shield is a weapon, susanoo is itachi's chakra. If itachi was in a battle, and an accident occurs, he stabs naruto with totsuka. Will totsuka stop sealing naruto because he is a friend?
The same logic for the shield.
If you're willing to go against the drawings of the author, then you're an idiot. Manga>>>>>>> databook.
The databook has made many mistakes before(there was a thread with a list of these mistakes). Any source of information that has given false information many times can't be blindly taken as a fact.
This is common sense.
My point is: we should obviously take in consideration the databook. But we shouldn't blindly believe in it and take it's statements as "facts until proven otherwise". This would be stupid.
Another thing is: kishi can easily change his mind and opinions. This changes will most likely be seen in the manga. But it's likely that kishi won't care or won't remember to add that change to the databook.
Following this, maybe when he wrote the databook, yata could block all Atacks UNTIL THEN. Kishi hadn't created the powerful atacks we see nowadays, so he didn't think about them when writing the databook.
So, manga>>>>> databook. I used the manga. Light went through, so did sound.
Of course it doesnt. Lets say that someone wants to use Kamui or Amaterasu on Susanoo user. They focus their sight on the enemy, what happens? Susanoo user is either warped or start to burn - Yata gives no protection for those techniques simply becuase its transparent.
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damon hunt
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sorry mate your logic is flawed he could have simply used yata to block but resulted in destroying the core because naruto and killer bee were there he has yata to block but what to they have he had to come up with a plan to save them as well its common sense,genious.
He could've used yata and just told bee and naruto what they had to do. What would stop him from using that? Using yata wouldn't stop him from using yasata no magatama.
If yata could have blocked CT, he would've used it.
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why would he use yata if it didnt require him using it at the time he still didnt reach the core yet he was still far away why would he activiate yata from there plus why wouldnt he help naruto and killer be attack and just defend it defies logic ? why wouldnt he help them destroy the core but instead focus on defending himself with yata mirror please intruige me
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Agreed that Yata doesn't block everything, but basing it on the fact that light and sound went through makes absolutely no sense. Yata Mirror blocks attacks, two people having a conversation isn't a form of attack, the examples you mentioned with light, aren't forms of attack, so why would Yata block it?
@bold: lmao, why would he use Yata and Yasaka Magatama when only one would be needed to save him, and Yasaka Magatama would obviously be the better choice since he needed to help them destroy the core regardless.
Your assertion is correct, your arguments that support it make no sense.
This is also another case of extremely flawed logic, why would he use Yata to block CT (assuming it can, even though I doubt it can) when that would still leave B and Naruto in danger?
@bold: lmao, why would he use Yata and Yasaka Magatama when only one would be needed to save him, and Yasaka Magatama would obviously be the better choice since he needed to help them destroy the core regardless.
Your assertion is correct, your arguments that support it make no sense.
Why would using yata stop him from helping bee and naruto? What makes it so hard for him to use yara and throw yasatama no magatama?
He would just be defending himself in case of anything goes wrong, but at the same time, he would be helping bee and naruto.
The shield doesn't have a mind on his own to identify what are atack and what are not? Like" oh, that's an atack, I'mma block it". "Oh, that? Nah, that's cool". If you have a shield, and you put it on your face, it will block everything that was going in that direction. If someone tells you "Hey, catch", and it hits the shield, it will be "blocked", being an atack or not.
The shield won't know if it's an atack or not.
And there is nothing to indicate that itachi can shield something, and let other things go through. When he let sasuke inside his SUSANOO, the shield was nowhere to be seen. And the shield is a weapon, susanoo is itachi's chakra. If itachi was in a battle, and an accident occurs, he stabs naruto with totsuka. Will totsuka stop sealing naruto because he is a friend?
The same logic for the shield.
Basically, putting the shield in front of him would cover him from being seen. Yet, it didn't. He could be seen through the shield, even when he put the shield in front of him. Same thing for the sound, when he was covering himself as a whole, sound wouldn't go through, but it did.
Concerning CT, just read the other reply.
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i said explain to me why would he use yata if he still havent reached the core he was far away from the core when all 3 attacked the core why would he use yata mirror from that distance ?
@bold "if anything goes wrong" assumption.
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Your comparison with a normal shield doesn't hold up as this isn't a normal shield. Its already been stated Yata blocks ATTACKS, so if its not an attack, it won't be blocked. The process is nowhere near as ridiculous as what you are suggesting, its a matter of it being automatic. If its an attack, it gets blocked. If its not, it doesn't.
Throwing a ball is a form of attack whether or not it is intended to be an attack or not, so that example obviously doesn't hold. Not to mention you are referring to light and sound here.
-Can a thrown ball hurt and hit someone? Yes.
-Can Sound or Light on its own? No.
lol, he can do the exact same thing with Susanoo.
-He blocked Sasuke's attacks with Susanoo.
-He let Sasuke in his Susanoo at the end.
So yes, he can. The shield has been stated to block attacks, something that isn't attack won't be blocked. Simple as that.
-Light by itself isn't an attack, same with Sound, so there is no reason it wouldn't be blocked.
Are you really serious with this? I've seen a lot of silly retorts as to why Yata can't block everything, but this one takes the cake.
There is no need to do both when one or the other would work, your reply doesn't change that.
I'm just gonna say it again. The shield doesn't have a mind of it's own to tell if something is an atack or not. This was never stated nor hinted. So it should work as a big ass powerful shield. If you place a shield or in front of you face, and then someone throw somebting(not an atack) for you to catch, will it go through the shield? No.
When he let sasuke inside his SUSANOO, the shield was nowhere to be seen. He might have just deactivated it. And the shield is a weapon, susanoo is itachi's chakra. If itachi was in a battle, and an accident occurs, he stabs naruto with totsuka. Will totsuka stop sealing naruto because he is a friend?
Same for the shield. It's a weapon.
Wolfus already destroyed your flawed logic, not even gonna entertain this troll post
And I stated that just because Yata was never used, doesn't mean it couldn't have been
Some other person said that
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And I'm just gonna say this again since you intend to carry on with this flawed logic.
THERE IS NO NEED FOR IT TO HAVE A MIND OF ITS OWN TO TELL WHETHER SOMETHING IS AN ATTACK OR NOT.
Don't even know why anyone would delude themselves into believing what you are saying makes sense.
Yata Mirror was already stated to block attacks and blocking attacks is all it does. If its not an attack it doesn't get blocked as that goes against the definition given to us by the Databook. Its as simple as that. Yata isn't going to block all light out because all light isn't an attack, it cannot get anymore simple than this.
Throwing a ball is a form of attack whether or not it is intended to be an attack or not, so that example obviously doesn't hold. Not to mention you are referring to light and sound here.
-Can a thrown ball hurt and hit someone? Yes.
-Can Sound or Light on its own? No.
And please don't compare Yata Mirror to a regular shield again, unless your comparison includes some kind of similar item don't even bother making another comparison.
Repeating the same nonsensical BS isn't a rebuttal, sorry pal.
Nothing but a baseless assumption. Its not shown or hinted that he deactivated anything.
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Sasuke passed through it and him because ITACHI ALLOWED IT.
lol, where do you think the shield and sword come from? They are formed using Itachi's chakra. Hence the sword and the shield having the same exact look as Itachi's Susanoo. Susanoo also acts as a shield for the user's attacks, why doesn't Susanoo block out light, air, and sound on its own then? Huh? By your terrible logic it should.
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Is Totsuka the same as Yata Mirror? No, so there goes your flawed comparison. Its already been shown that Susanoo users can allow people to enter their Susanoo.
Nah, Wolfus dumb comparisons make no sense but since you agree It makes sense.... Anyways.. Why would Itachi use yata knowing it would only save him and leave naruto and bee captured? Itachi being Top 3 more analytical in the series knew that his long range weapon would be required to make sure EVERYONE Survived
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