Yata and totsuka blade a little overrated imo....

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In the manga Yata has already shown to grow in size and shape in dependence of the incoming attack. Just as the databook said it would.


If you read the databook you'd see it states it can change every one of its properties allowing it to alter its attributes in accordance to the attributes of the attack

No need to explain what that means. The english is clear.
It also showed only extending a half circle.

Yep, accordance to the attack, no "s." The English is clear.
 

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2. Yata mirror- im pretty sure everyone knows this can block anything, be it astral, physical, spiritual, ninjutsu, taijutsu ect., but it is only defending frontal attacks, specifically, ones coming from the side its on. Basically, a character with speed feats, which there are alot of, can expose the weak points yata cant defend like attacks from behind.
I kinda agree except the Yata Mirror can change all of its attributes to counter an incoming attack, this includes size and shape. The Yata Mirror blocks and keeps smiling at any attack, whether that's from behind or above, or below.
 

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It also showed only extending a half circle.

Yep, accordance to the attack, no "s." The English is clear.
at·tack
əˈtak/Submit
verb
1.
take aggressive action against (a place or enemy forces) with weapons or armed force, typically in a battle or war.


Yeah. It is.

It also showed only extending a half circle.

You can continue using your idiotic argumentum ad ignorantiam. I have no desire to debate with you on this matter
 
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at·tack
əˈtak/Submit
verb
1.
take aggressive action against (a place or enemy forces) with weapons or armed force, typically in a battle or war.


Yeah. It is.


You can continue using your idiotic argumentum ad ignorantiam. I have no desire to debate with you on this matter
That's still only using the singular of the word, not the plural.

Show Yata making a full circle.
 

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That's still only using the singular of the word, not the plural.

Show Yata making a full circle.
Yata was stated to be able to alter its properties to prepare for any incoming attack, i'm afraid the burden of proof is on you :x
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Anyway, the weapons are not overrated. Until proven otherwise the manga-definition of these items stand.

Although I do question whether or not Itachi's feet are still exposed because Susano'o doesn't cover that area.

Should just add that not only on top of sealing w/e it pieces, Totsuka was able to defeat Orochimaru's strongest Summoning (according to the databook, could be wrong).
 
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In the manga Yata has already shown to grow in size and shape in dependence of the incoming attack. Just as the databook said it would.


If you read the databook you'd see it states it can change every one of its properties allowing it to alter its attributes in accordance to the attributes of the attack

No need to explain what that means. The english is clear.
Again, when has yata shown to be able to change shape?

We have not seen enough of it to fully understand its limits and the data book is sketchy at best.

You cannot assume when it says it changes its properties, that includes size.

Im not saying it couldn't either but thats not somthing we are 100% sure of.

By properties they could mean elements, shape/size, niether or both, we are not 100% certain.
 

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Again, when has yata shown to be able to change shape?
As owarij said, youre using an argumentum ad ignorantiam & trying to shift the burden of proof.

Yata mirror has changed it's size & shape:

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We have not seen enough of it to fully understand its limits and the data book is sketchy at best.
Lol Yata mirror has done exactly what the DB said it can, & that's change every one of it's properties in accordance to the attack. & the word "attack" is singular because the implied context is any general attack [including two jutsus at once, simultaneous blows, & things of that nature].

You cannot assume when it says it changes its properties, that includes size.
Yes we can considering it's already been shown to do it. It's never been attacked from behind so what reason would it have to provide protection from that area?

Im not saying it couldn't either but thats not somthing we are 100% sure of.
But it's as clear as day.

By properties they could mean elements, shape/size, niether or both, we are not 100% certain.
Here's the definition of property they're referring to:



"A red object is said to have the property of redness". Redness is just used to describe the object. A property can literally be anything [characteristic, way to describe the object].

If it meant elements then it would mention elements, as those are specific properties.
 

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As owarij said, youre using an argumentum ad ignorantiam & trying to shift the burden of proof.

Yata mirror has changed it's size & shape:

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Lol Yata mirror has done exactly what the DB said it can, & that's change every one of it's properties in accordance to the attack. & the word "attack" is singular because the implied context is any general attack [including two jutsus at once, simultaneous blows, & things of that nature].



Yes we can considering it's already been shown to do it. It's never been attacked from behind so what reason would it have to provide protection from that area?



But it's as clear as day.



Here's the definition of property they're referring to:



"A red object is said to have the property of redness". Redness is just used to describe the object. A property can literally be anything [characteristic, way to describe the object].

If it meant elements then it would mention elements, as those are specific properties.
Sorry dude...your proof is not proof. 2 different angles and 2 different distances. This doesn't prove it can change its size.

Answer me this: if yata does have this 360 degree of invincibility you claim it does, what happened to Itachis face/clothes/cloak after kirin hit?
 

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Yata was stated to be able to alter its properties to prepare for any incoming attack, i'm afraid the burden of proof is on you :x
=============================================================================

Anyway, the weapons are not overrated. Until proven otherwise the manga-definition of these items stand.

Although I do question whether or not Itachi's feet are still exposed because Susano'o doesn't cover that area.

Should just add that not only on top of sealing w/e it pieces, Totsuka was able to defeat Orochimaru's strongest Summoning (according to the databook, could be wrong).
Any incoming singular attack.

These things are shown stabbing cripples and blocking exploding seals, and until these items that will never be seen again are shown being overcome somehow, they will forever rely solely on their hype and no-limit fallacies... just like everything about Itachi, gotcha.

Itachi's feet are still exposed.

Totsuka cut off the heads of Orochimaru's hydra transformation which has the power of regeneration. Although it is supposed to loosely tie in with mythology with how Susanoo chopped Yamata no Orochi to pieces (after getting it drunk on sake, because Susasnoo couldn't beat it otherwise). Also notice that Totsuka extends from a sake gourd, and those pierced by Totsuka are trapped in an intoxicating dream. Clever. Although, in the myth, Totsuka broke against Yamata no Orochi's Kusanagi sword.
 
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Sorry dude...your proof is not proof. 2 different angles and 2 different distances. This doesn't prove it can change its size.
Sorry dude but it kinda actually is proof.

Angles & distances don't matter, we can clearly see by comparing the shield to susanoo that it increased in size & changed it's shape. Perspective is irrelevant here.

Answer me this: if yata does have this 360 degree of invincibility you claim it does, what happened to Itachis face/clothes/cloak after kirin hit?
Because itachi didn't use yata to block it? Lol Thought this was obvious.
 

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Sorry dude but it kinda actually is proof.

Angles & distances don't matter, we can clearly see by comparing the shield to susanoo that it increased in size & changed it's shape. Perspective is irrelevant here.


Because itachi didn't use yata to block it? Lol Thought this was obvious.
You dont make any sense. Yata can "expand" so to speak so itachi just looked up at this big ass dragon made of raw lightning and thought "yeah I dont need yata for this"? Bullshit.

And again about your pictures after taking a 2nd look....your delving in too much of what simply looks like sloppy art. Go back and look at how susanoo is drawn in that picture when its zoomed out. Basically, it seems the artist didn't really care to depict the true size of the shield.
 

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Hahah
I think Chie gave up on this thread and I see why.
Im not even going to bother bringing arguments. This is hilarious.
The hate is so clear on this one you gotta be borderline retarded not to see it.

@OP, relax. You seem so mad like you're going to pop a vein soon. No need to get so frustrated over a character, thats literally so ****ing stupid, chill guys
 

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Basically, it seems the artist didn't really care to depict the true size of the shield.
What does "true" mean to you? Does it mean the size Kishimoto has drawn, or the size you want it to be? I think its the latter, but I might be wrong. well, not really =D =D =D
 
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Hahah
I think Chie gave up on this thread and I see why.
Im not even going to bother bringing arguments. This is hilarious.
The hate is so clear on this one you gotta be borderline retarded not to see it.

@OP, relax. You seem so mad like you're going to pop a vein soon. No need to get so frustrated over a character, thats literally so ****ing stupid, chill guys
Lol....who's getting frustrated? I enjoy the debate....its the only reason besides making troll threads I come to the base.
No one is mad bro, I think you just wanted to jump in the convo....lol
 

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You dont make any sense. Yata can "expand" so to speak so itachi just looked up at this big ass dragon made of raw lightning and thought "yeah I dont need yata for this"? Bullshit.
Proof that itachi had time to pull out his entire susanoo + spiritual weapons before sasuke's attack landed? Itachi had no susanoo activated until the attack nearly hit him, then he pulled out what he could at the last second. [ ] We already know that itachi wanted sasuke to kill him, so there is no bullsh*t, just you denying the manga.

And again about your pictures after taking a 2nd look....your delving in too much of what simply looks like sloppy art. Go back and look at how susanoo is drawn in that picture when its zoomed out. Basically, it seems the artist didn't really care to depict the true size of the shield.
All of this is merely your interpretation of the manga's clear facts. The bold is where you just don't understand how the mirror works. What is the "true" size of a shield that has no physical form? & Can change it's size & shape as it pleases? There is no "true" size of yata, it is whatever size & shape it wants to be according to the databook. & Manga facts support it.
 

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Sorry dude...your proof is not proof. 2 different angles and 2 different distances. This doesn't prove it can change its size.

Answer me this: if yata does have this 360 degree of invincibility you claim it does, what happened to Itachis face/clothes/cloak after kirin hit?
Itachi only activated Susanoo ribs not the whole thing with the mirror & sword

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Proof that itachi had time to pull out his entire susanoo + spiritual weapons before sasuke's attack landed? Itachi had no susanoo activated until the attack nearly hit him, then he pulled out what he could at the last second. [ ] We already know that itachi wanted sasuke to kill him, so there is no bullsh*t, just you denying the manga.



All of this is merely your interpretation of the manga's clear facts. The bold is where you just don't understand how the mirror works. What is the "true" size of a shield that has no physical form? & Can change it's size & shape as it pleases? There is no "true" size of yata, it is whatever size & shape it wants to be according to the databook. & Manga facts support it.
Even if the data book/manga provide proof that it can expand, you dont know how much. So saying 360° is still b.s.. ..just trying to give itachi feats.
 
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