[YY] Yang w/ Drackos

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Alright, so starting with Daoism, a Chinese philosophical tradition which encourages adherence to the Dao (The Way), in order to achieve perfection. In order to do this, one must recognise and be cognizant of the universe's fundamental nature, the theory of creationism under Daoism. This is represented through Wuji (Nothingness / 'Without Ridgepole'), which is the first and foremost component of that theory. Wuji as a concept encompasses nothingness before creation, the void prior to the emergence of all that exists.

From this, Wuji, comes Taiji (Supreme Ultimate / 'Great Ridgepole'). It is all of existence which emerges from nothingness, a similar 'blanket' concept to Wuji. Fundamental to all things in existence, Taiji, is Yin and Yang. They naturally emerge alongside the Taiji because they are inherent to everything that exists. Yin and Yang are intrinsically connected, one cannot exist in the absence of the other. The best account I can give of their relationship is that of night and day. Yin, representing the darkness, the night, can only occur because Yang, representing the light, the day, flows into it as time itself too flows. Likewise, Yang can only exist once the night flows into the day with time. Their relationship can be rhythmic, or it can be one of constantly changing balance, cyclical. For example, for various tasks and activities we carry out in our daily lives, we stimulate our mind (Yin, the spiritual), or our body (Yang, the physical), to suit our needs. But in everything we do, both are present. Depending on what we're doing, whether its studying for an exam or running a marathon, the balance shifts to favour one over the other, Yin in the case of the former, Yang in the latter. Once we no longer need to stimulate our mind or body, we give them time to rest and recover, and both Yin and Yang will once again rebalance themselves.

Coming back to Daoism, it teaches us to be free-flowing, ever-changing, never confined to a single state of being, Wuji Dao (Way of Nothingness). Similarly to how Taiji is existence without distinction, one must themselves always be changing their state of existence, the balance of Yin and Yang must be constantly shifting in order to react to the world around you.

Now, in Naruto, both Yin and Yang materially do exist in the world in the form of energies. Going back to my earlier example of stimulating mind and body, doing these things produces distinct energies. Anything we do with our minds, such as studying, meditating or otherwise thinking, produces spiritual energy, which can be actively manipulated via Yin Release. By similar principle, anything we do with our bodies, such as running, climbing or fighting, produces physical energy, which can be controlled through Yang Release. These energies are inherent to all of existence in Naruto, similarly to how Yin and Yang are conceptually inherent to all things in the real world. Likewise, they are inseparable from each other, and so too are spiritual and physical energy. Both of these energies comprise chakra, as well as the techniques they fuel. Certain techniques and abilities lean further into both Yin and Yang to a greater extent than what you see in techniques from the Basic 5 Elements, but true control over spiritual and physical energies isn't possible until you possess Yin or Yang Release respectively, at least nowhere near the level of power or refinement you see in either. What's most important to note about these 'Releases' is that, despite their names, they aren't entirely separate from each other. No Yin or Yang Release technique is completely devoid of either energy. For example, every Yin Release technique has some level of physical energy in it, and every Yang Release technique has some level of spiritual energy in it, it's merely that one has been favoured over the other via manipulation of the ratio between the energies.

As for Yang's capabilities in the RP, it deals with all things in the realm of what can be called 'life', the ability of objects and beings to act of their own accord. It also interacts with and influences the constitution of other objects by manipulating their physical energy. An example of this would be abilities such as Birth of Nature, which causes Wood Release techniques to grow uncontrollably by forcibly injecting more physical energy into them, and Touch of the Sun and Power of the Sun, which can rejuvenate targets via exposure to large quantities of physical energy, allowing for regeneration of lost appendages and augmenting their physical capabilities in the case of Power. In the case of Ring of Hell, entirely new appendages can be generated. Examples of Yang, or physical energy, being used offensively would include the Eight-Branched Giant Snake and the White Tiger. While both techniques reduce a target's physical capabilities, such as reduced tracking and reaction speeds, and an inability to use physical techniques of higher ranks, they achieve this effect differently. The Eight-Branched Snake does so by producing a venom which actually reduces the physical energy, or vitality, within a target, whereas the White Tiger overloads a target's body with physical energy. This goes back to the concept of ratios between Yin and Yang, the spiritual and the physical, and how Yin and Yang Releases in the RP are as much about manipulating ratios between the aforementioned energies as they are about simply controlling them individually.

That's everything I've gathered from reading and prior knowledge. I might have missed some things or been too general, particularly on the Daoist concepts, so do fill in blanks or correct me on whatever is necessary.
 
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Well I mean you said that about as well as I could. So nice job, good effort. That effort is really evident here and I definitely commend you for it. Let me just add this bit to the training thread so you have it for reference. A lot of what you listed earlier is already in this, but it's a sort of 'official' description of what Yang is capable of. It was posted in my training and I just use it for every new student I have. It's useful, easy to grasp, and accessible.

"There are a few traits that are unique to Yang itself. Yang energy is very heated, but gives off no heat ( meaning if touched, incredibly hot flames will be felt but if you are near it, you generally won't feel it); It is life energy and encompasses just that, life ( what I mean by this is Yang is able to be used to breath life into form, obviously. Keeping in mind what I said earlier about how all Yang jutsu contain traits of Yin, you are able to use Yang to create living entities or appendages/alterations to the body. This can be best compared to Jugo's clan and how it is able to grow limbs that are enhanced by natural energy, or the Akimichi clan and it's ability to grow/manipulate the size of their body parts or even comparable to the Kaguya who are able to manipulate their skeletal system or even Inorganic Reincarnation which is able to infuse nonliving items with life and sentience like Yang can ); Yang energy is able to cause an imbalance of energy in the body that can have varying effects ( though logically, inserting too much of either Yin or Yang energy into the body will cause an imbalance, only Yang energy is able to affect the opponent in a way that this imbalance can hinder or harm them. This is because Yang requires greater control to handle due to it's highly energized state. This means that with Yang, you can insert high Yang energy and since they don't know how to control it yet, they will have adverse effects on their chakra system. This can present itself as difficulty in using it, inability to utilize certain fields, even things such as rapid aging of the body due to overflowing life energy, aging you to your peak and beyond); heal on a better level than Medjutsu or Hashirama cells ( one of the easier things to understand, Yang due to it's life energy, is able to heal wounds and even life threatening injuries. On the surface, this doesn't seem as useful because for the most part, the RP is a glass cannon one where almost any blow will kill you. But you can use Yang energy in ways to replicate or even make better forms of Medjutsu. You could create Yang energy that filters biological warfare attacks like poisons and things, you could use it to make abilities like the Yin seal of Tsunade's which is terribly named, you could also use it in conjunction with the life filling ability to make perfect clones that are living with their own chakra pools like a pseudo Creation )."

So tell me why someone with Yin and Yang, the energies separate, cannot make use of Yin-Yang Release? How does this relate back to Yang Release on its own too? You were right to point out that a Yang Release technique is never completely void of the other energy, Yin. But what does that mean exactly? Can someone with Yang indirectly manipulate their Yin by controlling their greater ratio in the RP? What about logically, assuming you forget about the RP's rules (if the answer to the first question is no).
 

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Yin-Yang Release is specifically the ability to utilise both Yin and Yang Release simultaneously, as opposed to just using one or the other at any given time. More broadly, being able to use Yin-Yang Release means that you can manipulate multiple chakra natures at once, which is stated in the thread for the ability itself.

Yin-Yang Release users have an advantage over other shinobi in various degrees due to their heightened skill in manipulating their chakra. At a base level, all Yin/Yang Release users possess a greater balance in their chakra due to the ability to manipulate and control the proportions of their chakra natures. This translates to all Yin/Yang Release users being capable of manipulating multiple nature elements simultaneously
As for your question, I'd say yes. But it's only really by technicality, in my opinion. Say for example, the Eight-Branched Giant Snake technique. The venom it produces drains a target of its physical energy, which would logically result in the internal ratios of spiritual energy to physical energy being greatly imbalanced. Just because that technique functions by interfering with a target's internal energies such that the spiritual is favoured over the physical, the effects are still centered on physical attributes being affected. The target doesn't experience any benefits or negative effects in regards to their mind or spirit.
 

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Yeah, essentially.

(Yoton: Jigoku ni henkō) - Yang Release: Change into Hell
Type: Supplementary
Rank: S-Rank
Range: Short
Chakra cost: N/A (+50, -10 per turn)
Damage points: N/A
Description: The user is able to use his Yang nature to embue life into an elemental technique, creating a Yang/Element sentient entity that will stay on the field to aid him. The only limit is the size of the technique originally used as an elemental source as the resulting entity will always be half the size. This entity can be interacted with, can act on its own and is made of the element sourced, with all its properties intact. Its strength is based on the original elemental technique used as a source. This doesn't consume time since its actually a skill applied to a technique used at the same time.
Note: Usable 3 times per battle and up to 6 times per event to create one entity with up to 300 chakra points that is able to use jutsu from the source it was created from.
Note: Yang Release masters can apply this technique to advanced fields and CE and advanced elements.

Let's play a game. You're going to spot where you think the Yin is in each of the Yang Release techniques. Some are more obvious than others. Some are very difficult to pinpoint. Use your imagination (pun intended). What are some of the limitations on the use of this technique?
 

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I'm guessing it would be where the entity retains the physical properties of the technique it's derived from? For example, if I used this on the Grand Fireball technique, the 'Yin' would grant the resulting entity the properties of flames, since that has to do with the state/form of the familiar itself and not with the life/sentience-granting aspect.

The most obvious limitation, or caveat, is the lack of 'boosting', I'd say. It doesn't give the targeted technique any additional chakra or damage, but hikes its cost considerably. I suppose the size reduction is a limitation of sorts, since it might reduce the technique's range, or that of its abilities that it can use. Because the familiar is sentient and has its own chakra pool, would it be susceptible to Genjutsu and/or other means of mental/spiritual influence? If so that would be another one.
 

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No. The technique doesn't read like it alters the technique's form aside from the size reduction, so things that travel are still bound to the trajectory they were initially sent on.
 

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Yean, and likewise anything that forms with a functioning set of legs (or something similar to it) would be able to walk. An interesting custom that you could combine this with would be the Fire technique you have that creates the skeleton familiars. I can't remember the name. Fifth Universe I think it was? How would those two interact, do you think?
 

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Obviously, the familiars would be made sentient and be able to use fire techniques, but the courtyard itself would be granted those benefits as well, which is the more interesting part. Unfortunately its size takes a big hit, but I suppose it's a fair trade for what it gets in return.
 

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Speaking from the rules side of things, as well as the way the technique is worded, I'd say no, because they aren't elemental techniques nor are they considered as Advanced Fields/Elements, so they're not eligible targets. From a purely logical standpoint, its either a flat out no or its arguably just useless, even supposing Change into Hell was worded to allow its usage in conjunction with things like ST or LDG. The technique targeted by Change into Hell already needs to have its own chakra, so to speak. When using Change into Hell on techniques like the Grand Fireball, or virtually any Basic 5 canon because the chakra used to create them is carried within the technique itself, and Change into Hell converts that innate chakra into a usable reserve of sorts. Techniques like ST and LDG don't actually contain chakra within them, its just that chakra is used to elicit their effects, e.g. LDG is purely pressurised air brought about through chakra-enhanced physical motion, and ST is manipulation of gravitational forces using chakra. The chakra acts on the forces of gravity, but doesn't become part of them, if that makes sense. Something being granted sentience doesn't magically give it the ability to produce chakra, nor does Change into Hell actually imbue the targeted technique with any of the chakra that's expended during its use like most infusion techniques. So at the very worst, you could use Change into Hell on either of those techniques, they'd be made sentient, but they wouldn't be able to use techniques since they'd have no chakra pool available to them.
 
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