[Discussion] Yami Teach vs Vergo
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Uzumaki Macho
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He believes that Ace beats DD so he probably sees Bannaro Teach as admiral level or very close.
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Vergo booty rape blitz Teach. Teach couldn't keep up with a pre TS G2 luffy. A haki laced bamboo stick swing or two to teach head and that's game U_U
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Uzumaki Macho
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Teach's only attacks seen are Black Hole, Liberation, and Kurozou. Vergo counters Black Hole with Geppo. Liberation just releases whatever Teach sucked in and wouldn't do anything to Vergo. Kurozou doesn't work on Vergo since he has no DF. His only option is hand to hand combat, which Vergo stomps him in.
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/facepalm. It's so annoying how people act like since Teach beat Ace that he can beat Vergo. BB's DF isn't even that useful against Haki beasts lie Vergo. Vergo wins this high diff.
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What? Its main use is only against DF users. Black Hole does nothing to someone with Geppo. Liberation is bad offensively. Kurozou only pulls in DF users. It comes down to hand to hand combat, which Vergo rapes in. I know that Ace fanboys like yourself like to overrate Yami Teach since he beat your fav.
Leave yami yami no mi, do u even watch OP really? DOes Garp not having DF makes him weak, there is always physical combat, thats the reason why BB beat ace, did yami yami no mi beat ace? No, that only took off his fruit and was able to beat him with his physical power, wich is one of the best physical abilites ever shown up to date, he was able to withstand Sengokus shockwaves and was able to take WB's bisento + a point blank range quake to the head and was still fighting like creazy against some one of the strongest top tiers which is Sengoku, are u telling me that a VA like Vergo is able to fight on even ground vs Sengoku? Sengoku can easily rofl stomp the shit out of someone like vergo, we had a shitton of VA's in the war none was showing anything impressive and none had the guts to do against teach, even though most of them know haki and there is no way Vergo is the strongest VA, do u think vergo being to war and he would do anything he would get some ronse treatment or lacroix, or he would just hide his ass or otherwise die from the AOE of top tiers, no matter how much haki vergo had his physical power is shit compared to teach, who did Vergo overpower? Law? as long as I know laws physical power is one of the shittiest ever going how law fights most with his DF, Vergo is not among the top dogs, do u actually think vergo would have any chance against the almost dead WB, even then vergo would get his shit quaked and get stomped, I doubt he would have the guts to go against him anyway, like most of the VA's who hid they're asses.
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Ace's durability is sh!t, he got too used to being intangible. You are confusing durability with stamina mate, Vergo has high durability and pretty good stamina while Teach only has great stamina and at best average durability.
No u are messing them, how vergo has high durability if the strongest thing he ever got hit by was some haki infused punches by Smoker and the lighting attack by Law, while Teach was hit by top tiers, again, do u even read OP? Its stupid to compare smokers pesky punches and laws pesky little attacks to Sengokus shockwaves and WB's quake attacks, attacks that can destroy a ****ing island and was able to take down any VA with one hit including a Giant VA like John Giant, and BB took it just fine and went on to fight Sengoku? how can u compare these two, its stupid.
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Durability is your ability to tank hits(which means receive absolutely no damage from them), which BB lacks in while Vergo excels in. Stamina is your ability to withstand an attack, which is what Teach is great in. You still have yet to prove that BBs punches can break through Vergo's full body Haki.
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Luffy pre-skip was able to withstand a direct blow from Sengoku. Besides, Teach at MF was stronger than he was at Bannaro, so those feats don't count for Yami Teach.
You've got it backwards. Ace's durability is good. It was BB's strength that was too much for Ace. Average durability? He took two serious blows from WB himself and still survived. Even VA's like John Giant couldn't handle one.. Even if that event was sometime after the battle on Banaro Island, BB could still have tanked it if he was some weeks younger.
And there's a big reason why Shanks was so wary of BB. It would count for nothing if someone who the strongest Yonko is keeping an eye on would be defeated by a VA.
Uzumaki Macho
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You're confusing durability with stamina. Ace's durability is sh!t, Pre TS Luffy didn't have his neck come lose to getting broken when BB hit him.
What hard hit did vergo ever take really? like I said except for smoker's pesky punches he never took any other hard hit to be able to tank and like I said teach fought way stronger ppl, if someone like law was able to bypass vergos haki why cant teach? For me teachs physical abilites far exceeds those of Vergo, the only thing vergo has to power himself up against Teach's blows is haki, but then again we have a few times where haki failed to block strong physical attacks even if that attack was pure physical strength i.e boa sisters vs luffy.
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Pre-skip luffy was able to withstand a punch sengoku threw on buddha mode, which he was surprised seeing luffy expand, if sengoku havent been careless he would have used shock waves into his blows, oh and on top of all that was a clusterfuk for the sake of the plot. Baseless, completely baseless there was never stated that teach got stronger than he was at banaro island, ur making shit up.