[YY] Y/Y Completion

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Oh from scratch. Cool! How do Yin and Yang come together in a philosophical and mechanical way in the roleplay?
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Yin and Yang in a philosophical sense is boiled down to; That the two are opposites. One however cannot exist, without a fraction of the other. The classic, is that if theres light, there will also be darkness, and vice versa. I guess the idea, is built on the fundamentals of balance - When there a high periods, there will be down periods as well. There would be a sort of chaos in the universe, if it didnt, and I suspect the banks should get this memo.

Mechanical-wise - YY are two "natures" that of which form Chakra, and of which the five basics is generated from. This done by balancing the two natures, which is the natural state - So easy for shinobi. Then we have diverted usages of either Yin or Yang, such as Akimichi and Tayuyas ghost spirits.

Yin is the spiritual side of things, it allows for shape, texture. The idea created from Yin however is void without Yang, which is supposedly meant to give it "life". Though we do have Yin based techniques, but these as far as I am aware tear away at your opponents spritual side as well, which enforces imbalances.

RP wise, I've read that;
* possessing YY allows using multiple elemental natures simultaneously.
* Sense chakra, distinguish between chakra natures and signatures.
* Raw-like chakra techniques are made neutral to basic natures(Does this include KG, HA AN, CEs?)
* This phrase is from the ability thread of YY "utilizing Yin or Yang Specialist restricted techniques as well as different proportions of Yin and Yang chakra for techniques at will" Does the bolded part refer to the limitation in some techniques of YY or what is the meaning of this sentence, practically? ✔
 

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Basic natures means basic 5 elements. So once you start getting into KG and CEs, no. ANs and HAs are not CE or KGs in that sense.

That bit is really just for flare. In terms of actually using a technique in the RP you're still limited to what that technique does. You can't, on a whim, just say you modify the ratio for a technique to give it difference effects. That said, you can use other techniques that modify the ratio (Change into Hell/Heaven, the most basic example) or make other customs that would do something to this effect.
 

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Basic natures means basic 5 elements. So once you start getting into KG and CEs, no. ANs and HAs are not CE or KGs in that sense.

That bit is really just for flare. In terms of actually using a technique in the RP you're still limited to what that technique does. You can't, on a whim, just say you modify the ratio for a technique to give it difference effects. That said, you can use other techniques that modify the ratio (Change into Hell/Heaven, the most basic example) or make other customs that would do something to this effect.
O'right,

I am ready to move on. ✔
 
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O'right,

I am ready to move on. ✔
So the first technique for Yin/Yang is to create chakra itself:


(In'yōton, Onmyōton: Chakra no Sōzō) Yin-Yang Release: Chakra Creation
Type: Supplementary
Rank: S-Rank
Range: Short
Chakra: N/A (+300 per turn)
Damage: N/A
Description: A unique ability available only to Yin-Yang masters, Chakra Creation pertains to the ability to focus on ones physical and spiritual energies and draw more from one's essence. This allows the user of the technique to replenish and regenerate a limited amount of chakra. This is done by clapping one's hands and focusing, meditating for a moment.
Note: Must meditate for 1 full turn before ones chakra starts to regenerate

Break this down and any questions you may have.
 

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So the first technique for Yin/Yang is to create chakra itself:


(In'yōton, Onmyōton: Chakra no Sōzō) Yin-Yang Release: Chakra Creation
Type: Supplementary
Rank: S-Rank
Range: Short
Chakra: N/A (+300 per turn)
Damage: N/A
Description: A unique ability available only to Yin-Yang masters, Chakra Creation pertains to the ability to focus on ones physical and spiritual energies and draw more from one's essence. This allows the user of the technique to replenish and regenerate a limited amount of chakra. This is done by clapping one's hands and focusing, meditating for a moment.
Note: Must meditate for 1 full turn before ones chakra starts to regenerate

Break this down and any questions you may have.
Essentially it requires me to clap my hands together and focus on my Yang and Yin energies. By combining a proper mixture of the two, I generate chakra which gets added to my mana pool. Obviously this does not allow me to go beyond my cap, but only replenish mana that is lost/used. S-rank tech.

It requires a full turn of meditation. Could you elaborate what a FULL turn means, to be exact, or how would you use it, and would you ever use it in combat? Can it work as a chakra surge against Genjutsu? The tremendous amount of chakra regained would clearly undo most if not all genjutsu when it comes to chakra vs chakra?
 

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Essentially it requires me to clap my hands together and focus on my Yang and Yin energies. By combining a proper mixture of the two, I generate chakra which gets added to my mana pool. Obviously this does not allow me to go beyond my cap, but only replenish mana that is lost/used. S-rank tech.

It requires a full turn of meditation. Could you elaborate what a FULL turn means, to be exact, or how would you use it, and would you ever use it in combat? Can it work as a chakra surge against Genjutsu? The tremendous amount of chakra regained would clearly undo most if not all genjutsu when it comes to chakra vs chakra?
A full turn equates to one turn in a fight. So you'd sit in one turn to meditate, then by your next turn, if it's not interrupted, you gain 300 chakra. This continues until you reach your chakra cap or the meditation is broken.

In the nw, this would be every 45 minutes, as that is how often you can post. Same with meditating for sage chakra, it's gained once every 45 mintures.

Would I use this in a fight? Almost definitely not. It's the same as having to remain still to gather natural energy, you leave yourself so open, it's not viable. If it was a team match or you have personal summons etc, it might work. Though you have to remember, in a fight, are you ever realistically using 2-3000 chakra. Most fights end within 5 moves in the battle arena and in the nw it isn't much longer as someone usually messes up, lets be honest.

I'd use this in the ninja world as I'm preparing for a fight to make sure I'm at my fullest. In the past, I've used the multi shadow clone jutsu, then had all of us use this technique to get to max chakra before entering combat. You may also use it after a fight to be ready for the next.

It has it's uses, though I wouldn't heavily rely on it.

You need to realise, this doesn't draw in and flood your body with external chakra. You're using the balance of yin and yang to create chakra itself within you, replenishing the tank. It's not flooding your body in a surge, so it would not break a genjutsu. Even if it did, it's not even a good counter to gen, because you still have to remain still for a whole turn.
 

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A full turn equates to one turn in a fight. So you'd sit in one turn to meditate, then by your next turn, if it's not interrupted, you gain 300 chakra. This continues until you reach your chakra cap or the meditation is broken.

In the nw, this would be every 45 minutes, as that is how often you can post. Same with meditating for sage chakra, it's gained once every 45 mintures.

Would I use this in a fight? Almost definitely not. It's the same as having to remain still to gather natural energy, you leave yourself so open, it's not viable. If it was a team match or you have personal summons etc, it might work. Though you have to remember, in a fight, are you ever realistically using 2-3000 chakra. Most fights end within 5 moves in the battle arena and in the nw it isn't much longer as someone usually messes up, lets be honest.

I'd use this in the ninja world as I'm preparing for a fight to make sure I'm at my fullest. In the past, I've used the multi shadow clone jutsu, then had all of us use this technique to get to max chakra before entering combat. You may also use it after a fight to be ready for the next.

It has it's uses, though I wouldn't heavily rely on it.

You need to realise, this doesn't draw in and flood your body with external chakra. You're using the balance of yin and yang to create chakra itself within you, replenishing the tank. It's not flooding your body in a surge, so it would not break a genjutsu. Even if it did, it's not even a good counter to gen, because you still have to remain still for a whole turn.
That makes sense. I haven't oft noticed confusion of how long a turn takes tho, and when have one meditated or similar for a whole turn. In essence;
User uses this tech turn 1.
Opponent uses a tech to interrupt turn 1:

Entering turn 2, when the user as to respond; I have seen people argue whether or not this account for a full turn then. But I don't know if the rules are more clear on this today?

Thanks for the examples, it makes sense. I understand the technique U^U.
 

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That makes sense. I haven't oft noticed confusion of how long a turn takes tho, and when have one meditated or similar for a whole turn. In essence;
User uses this tech turn 1.
Opponent uses a tech to interrupt turn 1:

Entering turn 2, when the user as to respond; I have seen people argue whether or not this account for a full turn then. But I don't know if the rules are more clear on this today?

Thanks for the examples, it makes sense. I understand the technique U^U.
Before we move on.

If I wish to regenerate 900 chakra in the ninja world, how would I used this technique to do so?
 

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Before we move on.

If I wish to regenerate 900 chakra in the ninja world, how would I used this technique to do so?
As you mentioned, it's possible to 3x times per 45 min, after my initial post, to gain 900 chakra. If we're multiple people posting, speeding up the turns, I could speed this proces up.

I could also use Kage Bunshin, dependent on how much chakra that I regain when dispersing them. But I haven't read the shadow clone tech thoroughly, as of late. Am I correct, Sensei-dono-sama-kun? o^o
 

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As you mentioned, it's possible to 3x times per 45 min, after my initial post, to gain 900 chakra. If we're multiple people posting, speeding up the turns, I could speed this proces up.

I could also use Kage Bunshin, dependent on how much chakra that I regain when dispersing them. But I haven't read the shadow clone tech thoroughly, as of late. Am I correct, Sensei-dono-sama-kun? o^o
(Kage Bunshin no Jutsu) - Shadow Clone Technique
Rank: B
Type: Supplementary
Range: Short
Chakra Cost: 20 (total chakra is divided by the final number of clones plus the user)
Damage Points: N/A
Description: The Kage Bunshin distributes the ninja's chakra evenly among the clones and himself and creates a real copy with form and substance. The clones, a max number of 4, are capable of performing techniques on their own and can even bleed, but will usually disperse after hit by a strong enough force, returning 10% of its individual chakra to the user. Shadow clones can't be distinguished from the original with Sharingan, Byakugan, Rinnegan or normal Chakra Sensing. The clone itself can also utilize any jutsu the original ninja knows. When the clone finally disperses, any new knowledge it has gained is passed back to the original ninja and any additional clones.


You'd only gain 10% of chakra back from each clone. So splitting your remaining chakra to have them gather chakra is hella redundant. As a sage you'd have 2000 chakra. To want to replenish some, you'd probs have spent around 500 chakra in a fight?
So with 1500 chakra left, you'd make 2 clones, each of you have 500 chakra.

Even if you all sit for one turn, you each have then 800 chakra. You disperse those two clones and gain 80 chakra from each of them. At that point you'd have your 800 + 160 chakra, leaving you with 960 chakra. It's really a pointless effort to even try that unless you're going for the specs that increase the returns. You're better off just literally sitting still for 3 hours, that's 4 turns, 1200 chakra. Or use the chakra pills on your bio etc.
 

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(Kage Bunshin no Jutsu) - Shadow Clone Technique
Rank: B
Type: Supplementary
Range: Short
Chakra Cost: 20 (total chakra is divided by the final number of clones plus the user)
Damage Points: N/A
Description: The Kage Bunshin distributes the ninja's chakra evenly among the clones and himself and creates a real copy with form and substance. The clones, a max number of 4, are capable of performing techniques on their own and can even bleed, but will usually disperse after hit by a strong enough force, returning 10% of its individual chakra to the user. Shadow clones can't be distinguished from the original with Sharingan, Byakugan, Rinnegan or normal Chakra Sensing. The clone itself can also utilize any jutsu the original ninja knows. When the clone finally disperses, any new knowledge it has gained is passed back to the original ninja and any additional clones.


You'd only gain 10% of chakra back from each clone. So splitting your remaining chakra to have them gather chakra is hella redundant. As a sage you'd have 2000 chakra. To want to replenish some, you'd probs have spent around 500 chakra in a fight?
So with 1500 chakra left, you'd make 2 clones, each of you have 500 chakra.

Even if you all sit for one turn, you each have then 800 chakra. You disperse those two clones and gain 80 chakra from each of them. At that point you'd have your 800 + 160 chakra, leaving you with 960 chakra. It's really a pointless effort to even try that unless you're going for the specs that increase the returns. You're better off just literally sitting still for 3 hours, that's 4 turns, 1200 chakra. Or use the chakra pills on your bio etc.
Hot damn. Yeah, that would be awful.

Using clones, I would be able to create them, then replenish my stock to 2000.
How much chakra would the clones be able to contain? The original split value when creating them or?

Excuse me, if we're getting off track. Lmao.
 

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Hot damn. Yeah, that would be awful.

Using clones, I would be able to create them, then replenish my stock to 2000.
How much chakra would the clones be able to contain? The original split value when creating them or?

Excuse me, if we're getting off track. Lmao.
The idea of training is to cover all aspects, so it's not off track, don't worry.

Clones are a copy of you, their chakra capacity is the same as your maximum.
 

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(In'yōton, Onmyōton: Chakra no Jokyo) Yin-Yang Release: Chakra Removal
Type: Supplementary
Rank: S-Rank
Range: Short
Chakra: N/A (-200 per turn)
Damage: N/A
Description: A unique ability available only to Yin-Yang masters, Chakra Removal pertains to the ability to focus on ones physical and spiritual energies and draw in chakra from those nearby. This allows the user of the technique to drain a limited amount of chakra from opponents. This is done by clapping one's hands and focusing, meditating for a moment. After two full turns, a collective max of 200 chakra is drained from those in the landmark per turn for up to 4 turns each. Should one be touched directly, the user doesn't need to meditate.
Note: Must meditate for 2 full turns before ones chakra starts to drain

Up next is this. Break it down, ask any and all questions you may have. What is good about this? What is bad?
 

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Similarly to the chakra creation technique I am to use this technique to replenish myself, however, it requires more meditation time - 2 Turns, and can at max, replenish 200 per turn. This amount of 200 is divided between all the targets. So, if there are 4 targets, each of these per turn, loose 50 chakra. This can be done up to four turns, per individual.

If I am capable of touching said person, I do not need to meditate beforehand.

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Is this per usage, or per NW event?
Can this disrupt and disable my target's ability to mold chakra or similar?

Can I drain targets, despite being at max chakra capacity?
 

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Similarly to the chakra creation technique I am to use this technique to replenish myself, however, it requires more meditation time - 2 Turns, and can at max, replenish 200 per turn. This amount of 200 is divided between all the targets. So, if there are 4 targets, each of these per turn, loose 50 chakra. This can be done up to four turns, per individual.

If I am capable of touching said person, I do not need to meditate beforehand.

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Is this per usage, or per NW event?
Can this disrupt and disable my target's ability to mold chakra or similar?

Can I drain targets, despite being at max chakra capacity?
"Is this per usage, or per NW event?"
I need you to elaborate on this question, are you asking about the amount you can drain? How many uses etc?

You can drain them even if you are at maximum chakra, you'll just never go over your own personal chakra cap.

You also haven't told me the weaknesses of the technique.
 
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