Y these filler tryna make orichimaru help the leaf

[kelvin432]

He got no love towards konohahaha

 

[KingHashirama]

Boy was sheddin a tear when trying to kill Hiruzen. Anyone who believes Orochimaru didn't a give a sh*t above konoha is obviously lieing to themselves.

 

[itachiuchiha21]

What is konohahaha? XD

 

[Joker]

Boy was sheddin a tear when trying to kill Hiruzen. Anyone who believes Orochimaru didn't a give a sh*t above konoha is obviously lieing to themselves.

He mostly doesn't though, he even enjoyed the fight.

 

[Made in Heaven]

Maybe he still has yet to abandon said hahahaha?

 

[KingHashirama]

He mostly doesn't though, he even enjoyed the fight.

No he had to kill his inside self to even attack the leaf.. he still held a bond with the village.

He does care for his master mate =p.

 

[Fair Warning]

He's just pissed that Minato > Him

 

[Kαmi]

What is konohahaha? XD

The village where Itachi Uchihahahaha originated from of course u_u

 

[Hypemaster]

What is konohahaha? XD

How do you not know?

 

[HiddenSound]

No he had to kill his inside self to even attack the leaf.. he still held a bond with the village.

He does care for his master mate =p.

He tortured Hiruzen. Badly. He wanted him dead. He wanted Konoha destroyed. Perhaps some part of him still cared for Konoha, but we've seen how Orochimaru handled that part of himself. Saying "yeah I guess Orochimaru was just a good guy at heart all along" is just... Laughably stupid.
OT: Orochimaru didn't really care about being Hokage. His duties would have interfered with his experiments.

 

[xjimbox]

Well im pretty sure he loved the village at one point.... and stopped lol

 

[Joker]

No he had to kill his inside self to even attack the leaf.. he still held a bond with the village.

He does care for his master mate =p.

He was smiling the whole time; only time he was enraged was when Hiruzen was sucking his soul out. Even when he mention Jiraiya's death he was smiling. I don't think you know his character like I do.

 

[KingHashirama]

He tortured Hiruzen. Badly. He wanted him dead. He wanted Konoha destroyed. Perhaps some part of him still cared for Konoha, but we've seen how Orochimaru handled that part of himself. Saying "yeah I guess Orochimaru was just a good guy at heart all along" is just... Laughably stupid.
OT: Orochimaru didn't really care about being Hokage. His duties would have interfered with his experiments.

Even your beloved Orochimaru was a good guy at first. And actually he did want to be Hokage, other wise he would've never brought it up in front of the Hokage.

@Bold, and who is saying that?

He was smiling the whole time; only time he was enraged was when Hiruzen was sucking his soul out. Even when he mention Jiraiya's death he was smiling. I don't think you know his character like I do.

-sheds a tear

- tries to play it off

Wasn't really that hard to understand that he was killing off his emotions so he could get the job done.

Even Sasuke figured it out:

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I like the whole concept of there being a non- "evil" born villain. Even the "joker" who is considered as just "pure villain" is initially someone who is butt hurt over the past. Orochimaru is no other way.

 

[NarutoChangeSasuke]

What filler? theres no new episode :L

 

[Chibiusa]

This is actually a really good and intriguing topic. Orochimaru's character is more complex than most think.

Y'all should have like an actual debate thread. It'll be interesting. Kinda like debating morals in a way

 

[Joker]

Even your beloved Orochimaru was a good guy at first. And actually he did want to be Hokage, other wise he would've never brought it up in front of the Hokage.

@Bold, and who is saying that?


-sheds a tear

- tries to play it off

Wasn't really that hard to understand that he was killing off his emotions so he could get the job done.

Even Sasuke figured it out:

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I like the whole concept of there being a non- "evil" born villain. Even the "joker" who is considered as just "pure villain" is initially someone who is butt hurt over the past. Orochimaru is no other way.

We'll see, I genuinely believe he's even to the core, as Ikibi stated. Snakes are known to have evil intentions anyway; Sasuke may think he knows, but he doesn't KNOW. It wouldn't be the first time Orochimaru lied, Kimmimaro, Anko, countless subordinates.

 

[Sir Blades]

Very deep deep deep deep deep within his heart, Orochimaru actually has feelings.

 

[KingHashirama]

We'll see, I genuinely believe he's even to the core, as Ikibi stated. Snakes are known to have evil intentions anyway; Sasuke may think he knows, but he doesn't KNOW. It wouldn't be the first time Orochimaru lied, Kimmimaro, Anko, countless subordinates.

No its not just Sasuke thinking he might knows, he actually asked. And look at that look on Orochimaru's face. Its not that Sasuke THINKS he knows it.. its that hes figured it out now.
I mean Madara is killing of shinobi like nothing, but never see anyone claim he is a ruthless villain and pure evil (though the manga keeps implying at that over and over).

Danzo was killing off his subs also.. but people like HiddenSound still want to defend him to be a "Good guy at the heart".. come on now man.

But i do understand where you are coming from.

 

[Joker]

Very deep deep deep deep deep within his heart, Orochimaru actually has feelings.

I don't know if it's just me, I just want him to be pure evil. I want there to be like some kind of revelation confirming his evilness like;
Hiruzen: O-orochimaru, what would your parents think about this?!
Orochimaru: You still haven't caught on, have you...?
Hiruzen: ...!?
Orochimaru: [Tongue sticks out, he grabs his bottom eye lid, showing his slit pupils] I was the one who killed them!
Hiruzen: You monstrosity, (how could he take out such high level ninja at that age...?) how could you?!
Orochimaru: It was to further my plans at that age, achieving immortality! I saw them as a threat, so they had to be eliminated. Even a child can be surrounded by pure darkness!

 

[Ovan]

They always come home to daddy.