[Discussion] Wtf is Smoothie doing?

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If that "competent" thing is not impressive enough, then yes. A good branch among countless of bad ones would never save a whole forest
Then what's the point of your post? You question why people care about Big Mom's side doing competent things to redeem themselves, saying it wouldn't matter, and then admit that doing such things can redeem them? Just pointless.
 

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Then what's the point of your post? You question why people care about Big Mom's side doing competent things to redeem themselves, saying it wouldn't matter, and then admit that doing such things can redeem them? Just pointless.
Because apologists can't admit how incompetent Big Mom pirates have been shown to be this entire arc
 

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Because apologists can't admit how incompetent Big Mom pirates have been shown to be this entire arc
And....this objectively invalidates whether or not the Big Mom pirates redeem themselves through enough competent actions? Your initial post had nothing to do with the actions of "Big Mom apologists." Your post was a judgement on the BM pirates themselves, saying that they can't redeem themselves despite doing competent things in the future. Then you say they COULD if it's enough, despite saying it's not possible at all later, and then you say that depends on Big Mom apologists? None of this makes sense.
 

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Because apologists can't admit how incompetent Big Mom pirates have been shown to be this entire arc
Dude, you're so fucking weird to add all this nonsense. It's not the rest of the people, It's really you and and the gang of impatient pricks.

The fights has been underway for 8 pages and you're running your mouth. Also don't you see the pattern ? Luffy is going to be the pirate king. In every arc the enemy is incompetent, handicapped or just weaker.

If Big Mom was slightly more focused on Luffy and less on the wedding, he would be as dead as a door nail. If Smoothie was more "competent" according to you Brook wouldn't have made it out with the plans.

All this bitching and moaning because you can't handle the 1 chapter a week rate. And complaining after the fact. Probably going to say err mah gawd i feckin hate Whole Cake island after you finished it. Because you have been non-stop whining about it for 90 weeks. It's no wonder that you don't come to like it.

Drop the series for 6 months and binge read it if you're having so much trouble with the pace.

It's just a story, not a dick don't take it so hard.
 
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I didn't say he was a loser, I said he's failed at every turn since the chaos started. Nothing he's attempted to do has ended in success. Him trying to shoot Sanji and killing the priest instead is still a failure regardless of what people around him are doing.

Him being unable to stop the cake from being destroyed shows the limits of his foresight relative to the rest of his abilities.

Him failing to even notice Brook going for the picture shows his inability to adapt beyond his visions, making his foresight a liability as it's just distracted him so far.

Trying to act and resulting in failure is just as bad as not acting, period.

Plus as Love Cook has mentioned, the chaos has been relatively brief. It literally JUST started and you're already expecting them to be super on top of what's going on?



Right, because I'm sure Big Mom would put her Poneglyph/valued treasure behind a door that's easy to break down? Don't forget that there are materials in this world that even top tiers like Whitebeard can't break, like the siege wall in Marineford and seastone, so it's pretty stupid to ridicule a character for not busting a door the Emperor she serves has to protect that Emperor's extremely valued items.
Being fair to the guy, it was quite the plan really. Luffy having so many clones and then coming right out and stating who he was, thereby taking FULL focus from all the other Luffy's who they now think are just animals (what with the noises they were making), to then Jinbei taking attention of Big Mom and everyone else so that Brook, disguised as just another fodder Luffy, could go behind even Big Mom's back and break the Mother Caramel picture.

I'd like to know if that was the plan that Jinbei and Brook cooked up.

And also, what I found disappointing was how Bege bigged up the BM crew saying hey only have seconds before they're all attacked and I'd say from the time of Luffy busting out of the cake to Brook breaking the picture has been way more then a mere few seconds, so what are her crew doing??
 

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Dude, you're so fucking weird to add all this nonsense. It's not the rest of the people, It's really you and and the gang of impatient pricks.

The fights has been underway for 8 pages and you're running your mouth. Also don't you see the pattern ? Luffy is going to be the pirate king. In every arc the enemy is incompetent, handicapped or just weaker.

If Big Mom was slightly more focused on Luffy and less on the wedding, he would be as dead as a door nail. If Smoothie was more "competent" according to you Brook wouldn't have made it out with the plans.

All this bitching and moaning because you can't handle the 1 chapter a week rate. And complaining after the fact. Probably going to say err mah gawd i feckin hate Whole Cake island after you finished it. Because you have been non-stop whining about it for 90 weeks. It's no wonder that you don't come to like it.

Drop the series for 6 months and binge read it if you're having so much trouble with the pace.

It's just a story, not a dick don't take it so hard.

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Don't quote me troll filth, if the only thing you have to say is bullshit. Your meme from 2008 is not doing you any favors either. Law said on Punk Hazard that their odds were against them even if everything went according to plan. Well everything isn't going down to plan right now. Bege acknowledged that by saying they have 0% chance if Big Mom would see the attack coming.

Luffy was already dead to rights locked away in a book and taken care of. HENCE and listen well you dumb troll, IF BIG MOM WAS SLIGHTLY MORE FOCUSED ON LUFFY HE WOULD BE DEAD.

Go prepare your avatar space for a big mom avatar.
 

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Don't quote me troll filth, if the only thing you have to say is bullshit. Your meme from 2008 is not doing you any favors either. Law said on Punk Hazard that their odds were against them even if everything went according to plan. Well everything isn't going down to plan right now. Bege acknowledged that by saying they have 0% chance if Big Mom would see the attack coming.

Luffy was already dead to rights locked away in a book and taken care of. HENCE and listen well you dumb troll, IF BIG MOM WAS SLIGHTLY MORE FOCUSED ON LUFFY HE WOULD BE DEAD.

Go prepare your avatar space for a big mom avatar.
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Only reason the Sanji Retrieval Team is still alive is because the wedding was keeping BM happy & calm. BM would've had Luffy killed in that book if the wedding wasn't happening. That is just one of many circumstances that Luffy is only alive through luck in this arc.
 

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Don't quote me troll filth, if the only thing you have to say is bullshit. Your meme from 2008 is not doing you any favors either. Law said on Punk Hazard that their odds were against them even if everything went according to plan. Well everything isn't going down to plan right now. Bege acknowledged that by saying they have 0% chance if Big Mom would see the attack coming.

Luffy was already dead to rights locked away in a book and taken care of. HENCE and listen well you dumb troll, IF BIG MOM WAS SLIGHTLY MORE FOCUSED ON LUFFY HE WOULD BE DEAD.

Go prepare your avatar space for a big mom avatar.

Luffy > Big Mom

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Only reason the Sanji Retrieval Team is still alive is because the wedding was keeping BM happy & calm. BM would've had Luffy killed in that book if the wedding wasn't happening. That is just one of many circumstances that Luffy is only alive through luck in this arc.

I respectfully disagree.

(But props for actually expressing your thoughts and opinions in a calm mature manner.. unlike the troll that is Love Cook.)
 

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Only reason the Sanji Retrieval Team is still alive is because the wedding was keeping BM happy & calm. BM would've had Luffy killed in that book if the wedding wasn't happening. That is just one of many circumstances that Luffy is only alive through luck in this arc.
Be careful with using manga facts and logic around here. Someone might call you retarded, because they're inept at dealing with an discussion in an intelligent way.

I respectfully disagree.

(But props for actually expressing your thoughts and opinions in a calm mature manner.. unlike the troll that is Love Cook.)
Disagree with a page from the manga, and you call me a troll.

You call yourself a member to remember. Everyone will remember you as a troll. Great achievement.
 

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Be careful with using manga facts and logic around here. Someone might call you retarded, because they're inept at dealing with an discussion in an intelligent way.



Disagree with a page from the manga, and you call me a troll.

You call yourself a member to remember. Everyone will remember you as a troll. Great achievement.
- says one of the biggest trolls on here


You literally disagree with pages from the manga all the time though :bdpf:



You disagree? LMAO this isn't an opinion. This isn't objective. Big Mom would have executed Luffy if the wedding wasn't happening. Period.

Luffy > Big Mom

:bdpf:
 

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You disagree? LMAO this isn't an opinion. This isn't objective. Big Mom would have executed Luffy if the wedding wasn't happening. Period.
Luffy would've never been in that position in the first place if the wedding wasn't happening.. no wedding = no Sanji going to WCI = no Luffy letting Sanji attack him = Luffy never even being in that predicament.

LMAO this isn't an opinion. This isn't objective. This is fact. Period.
 

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- says one of the biggest trolls on here


You literally disagree with pages from the manga all the time though :bdpf:


:bdpf:
I showed an example where you did. Now you show me an example where I did.

Prove it, let me see where I'm trolling. Otherwise shut the hell up bottom feeder. You have nothing left here, every post you make isn't being taken serious. You might think it's funny now. But that joke will get old in a couple of months and then you'll piss off to troll purgatory like many did before you.

Luffy would've never been in that position in the first place if the wedding wasn't happening.. no wedding = no Sanji going to WCI = no Luffy letting Sanji attack him = Luffy never even being in that predicament.

LMAO this isn't an opinion. This isn't objective. This is fact. Period.

Yes Luffy would never be beaten by Big Mom if he never went to the island of Big Mom. genius ! Did you come up with that yourself or did Oda pass you that amazing bit of intel ?

Hope he can steer clear of all the yonkou until he reaches Raftel then.
 

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I showed an example where you did. Now you show me an example where I did.

Prove it, let me see where I'm trolling. Otherwise shut the hell up bottom feeder. You have nothing left here, every post you make isn't being taken serious. You might think it's funny now. But that joke will get old in a couple of months and then you'll piss off to troll purgatory like many did before you.
Lmao.. you sound so bitter.. get some money.. get some p*ssy.. life is such a wonderful thing, you have no reason to be this negative.

You're such a fkng troll dude I swear..

No one is going to take you seriously if you keep on trolling like this just so you know. :hint:



Yes Luffy would never be beaten by Big Mom if he never went to the island of Big Mom. genius ! Did you come up with that yourself or did Oda pass you that amazing bit of intel ?

Hope he can steer clear of all the yonkou until he reaches Raftel then.
Do you hear yourself?

Do you actually read what you write?


Do even read the fkng manga?!?!?



Oda > u

Sanji > u

Zoro > Cracker

Law > ur fav

Doflamingo > ur fav


Luffy > Big Mom
 

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I will have to agree that smoothie isnt living upto my expectations as a Yonkou commander. Katakuri and Cracker are beast but Smoothie isnt doing anything for now. Also BM is a terrible leader, its not her crew that's incompetant, but the way she rules over the WCI and runs it with fear, kinda makes her crew half baked. Pretty sure if it were WB's Crew, Luffy would have been an unofficial part of it already.
 

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Lmao.. you sound so bitter.. get some money.. get some p*ssy.. life is such a wonderful thing, you have no reason to be this negative.

You're such a fkng troll dude I swear..

No one is going to take you seriously if you keep on trolling like this just so you know. :hint:





Do you hear yourself?

Do you actually read what you write?


Do even read the fkng manga?!?!?



Oda > u

Sanji > u

Zoro > Cracker

Law > ur fav

Doflamingo > ur fav


Luffy > Big Mom
Cool not a single argument. Thanks, you've proven my point.
 
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