wtf? Is sasuke actually faster than naruto?

[olisa]

Seriously, I'm a bit puzzled here. It's sure as shit sasuke's a hell of a lot faster... but let's keep looking at this [

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Madara was flying away from them at top speed; so sasuke had to cover that distance rather quickly to blitz him. Now, let's neglect sasuke's confusing new jutsu and just assume, for argument sasuke that he teleported towards madara... I don't care about that; What I do care about is the fact that madara was unable to react. Check this shit out...

Minato teleported and

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. Completely taken by surprise, madara still gave him that

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7th gate guy then

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Naruto

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in sm-base-whatchamaccalit...

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. (madara blocks with his staff)

*Naruto tries here, He almost succeeds if not for ringa [

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]. But i'm not sure if that has more to do with madara still being occupied by the attack he's performing or a true blitz. In any case, kudos to him. But we expect this shit from that rikudou mode naruto's in...

Now, Back to sasuke. Remember the first scan I linked? If you look at it carefully, madara was watching sasuke while sasuke was like 6 feet away or more. So, he didn't get the drop on madara anymore than guy or minato. In fact, he's further away than minato who teleported and needed to swing his arm. Yet, the next panel, he's sliced madara in half. [

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]Notice how madara's staff is still on his side and uncut? That means he never even got the chance to block himself (like against minato, guy and naruto).

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Seriously, Thoughts? Because I need to see next week for some explanation of this shit. Sasuke's in base as far as we can tell, with a nice new shiny eye, yet he's blitzing a Juubi jin as good, if not better than naruto? Wtf...?

EDIT: Everyone keeps talking about 'teleportation technique'. AGAIN, i'm not talking about sasuke covering the distance. That could have been teleportation, i don't care. I'm talking about the actual arm swing/forward slash when he was 6 feet away. Teleportation doesn't carry forward momentum great enough to propel madara back.

You're actually overlooking one very important thing here; LIMBO. Madara does not have it on that panel when Sasuke cuts him because Naruto is dealing with it. Think for a second, the only way Madara reacted fast enough to Naruto's attack in the first place in this chapter was because of Limbo, without it his defense is not that effective. heck, by looking properly at Madara's expression and words you can see he wasn't too surprised by Sasuke's attack, he just couldn't react fast enough to it but had he some limbo goodness he would've blocked it like he did Naruto's.

the only one we've seen speed so great that Madara had absolutely no time at all to use limbo was Guy.

 

[slimreaper]

That's not what happened he was shocked that he sword that had previously missed was now inside, and that happened because the bodies joined back together, i shouldn't be surprised you tried to twist that scan thou

for that reaction he went eh. he then made the ! reaction to sasuke being where his sword was. I didn't twist shit, you're just retarded

 

[Berserker]

You're actually overlooking one very important thing here; LIMBO. Madara does not have it on that panel when Sasuke cuts him because Naruto is dealing with it. Think for a second, the only way Madara reacted fast enough to Naruto's attack in the first place in this chapter was because of Limbo, without it his defense is not that effective. heck, by looking properly at Madara's expression and words you can see he wasn't too surprised by Sasuke's attack, he just couldn't react fast enough to it but had he some limbo goodness he would've blocked it like he did Naruto's.

the only one we've seen speed so great that Madara had absolutely no time at all to use limbo was Guy.

Madara reacted to Narutos attack just fine. It was the counter attack that didn't land.

 

[Senju Bean]

Obviously.

It's as if he could use FTG without seals.

I've been saying this all along.

 

[A v i]

i know right? fanboys but it was pretty epic what sasuke kun did lel

I like you man.

U may didn't get my point completly but unlike that clown you actually tried to understand what Iam trying to say.

 

[Kutrone]

1. I've never refered to him as "sasuke-kun)

2. I don't give a ****, this chapter makes sasuke the most OP character the manga has seen for the moment

1. I wasn't singling you out, don't take it personally. But a lot of fanboys have made the whole fanbase look bad.
2. Current Madara is way more OP. He's still got tricks up his sleeve, and he can use kamui now. He'll put up a fight, but he'll lose.

 

[lucario14]

I think it's just a jutsu. We never see him moving toward madara he just happened to appear near him. Also in the page before notice how his face becomes black and focuses on his eye. I think it's meant to mean that sasuke has slipped into the invisible world, the same world that madara's limbo came from. Either that or he can somehow dilate time for himself? Either way, I think it's some kind of space/time jutsu. Remember when he dodged the black lightning. Madara said sasuke just moved? We see a panel of him activating his eye so imo it's a s/t jutsu he activates with his rinnegan.

 

[shadowcb]

You're wrong Op, Sasuke is not faster than Naruto.

1 - The reason Sasuke was able to get close to Madara without him noticing was because Madara was completely focused on gaining and implanting Kakashi's sharingan. By the time Madara finished implanting his sharingan and turned around Sasuke had already stated his attack and was about a foot away from him. He wasn't even surprised by Sasuke. The manga has proven time and time again that a slower ninja can hit a faster ninja if they attack the faster ninja while they are distracted. IE. Choji was able to hit Kakuzu because he was focused on fighting Shikamaru.

2 - The reason Madara did not try to counter or evade Sasuke's attack was because he was not concerned about Sasuke's attack. Naruto and Sasuke together were giving him trouble. He knew that if he wants to stand a chance against them he will need his other rinnegan so he was only concerned about warping to Obito's world.

The manga proves it. He was cut in half by Sasuke yet never slowed him down at all. Sasuke even realized his attack was not effective. When Guy and Naruto attacked connected with Madara it put him on his ass and he needed time to recover.

 

[KisameTheShark]

Aside from the fan arguments I think I am going to stick with the theory that Sasuke isn't faster but can now manipulate time within a short radius around himself for a short moment.

 

[slimreaper]

You're wrong Op, Sasuke is not faster than Naruto.

1 - The reason Sasuke was able to get close to Madara without him noticing was because Madara was completely focused on gaining and implanting Kakashi's sharingan. By the time Madara finished implanting his sharingan and turned around Sasuke had already stated his attack and was about a foot away from him. He wasn't even surprised by Sasuke. The manga has proven time and time again that a slower ninja can hit a faster ninja if they attack the faster ninja while they are distracted. IE. Choji was able to hit Kakuzu because he was focused on fighting Shikamaru.

2 - The reason Madara did not try to counter or evade Sasuke's attack was because he was not concerned about Sasuke's attack. Naruto and Sasuke together were giving him trouble. He knew that if he wants to stand a chance against them he will need his other rinnegan so he was only concerned about warping to Obito's world.

The manga proves it. He was cut in half by Sasuke yet never slowed him down at all. Sasuke even realized his attack was not effective. When Guy and Naruto attacked connected with Madara it put him on his ass and he needed time to recover.

he never even stopped once getting kakashi's eye

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for that reaction he went eh. he then made the ! reaction to sasuke being where his sword was. I didn't twist shit, you're just retarded

Lol please calm down, don't get mad, i think its possible you can read because in the very next set off panels Sasuke explained that Madara's Shadow came back to him a shadow he previously attacked.

 

[olisa]

Madara reacted to Narutos attack just fine. It was the counter attack that didn't land.

Yes, with Limbo, which was exactly my point. He does not have limbo when Sasuke attacked him at the end.

 

[Berserker]

You're wrong Op, Sasuke is not faster than Naruto.

1 - The reason Sasuke was able to get close to Madara without him noticing was because Madara was completely focused on gaining and implanting Kakashi's sharingan. By the time Madara finished implanting his sharingan and turned around Sasuke had already stated his attack and was about a foot away from him. He wasn't even surprised by Sasuke. The manga has proven time and time again that a slower ninja can hit a faster ninja if they attack the faster ninja while they are distracted. IE. Choji was able to hit Kakuzu because he was focused on fighting Shikamaru.

2 - The reason Madara did not try to counter or evade Sasuke's attack was because he was not concerned about Sasuke's attack. Naruto and Sasuke together were giving him trouble. He knew that if he wants to stand a chance against them he will need his other rinnegan so he was only concerned about warping to Obito's world.

The manga proves it. He was cut in half by Sasuke yet never slowed him down at all. Sasuke even realized his attack was not effective. When Guy and Naruto attacked connected with Madara it put him on his ass and he needed time to recover.

Sounds like you're trying hard to downplay his abilities. Why can't you just say he was fast enough to hit Madara but it doesn't mean he's faster than him. Sasuke obviously has some form of ftg, Minato and the others couldn't dream of hitting him. Madara also had a headstart and he is the Juubi Jin. A clean hit on one is praise worthy and Madaras praise is feat-worthy enough.

Yes, with Limbo, which was exactly my point. He does not have limbo when Sasuke attacked him at the end.

Ok I see better what happened. Madara used Limbo to block his attack, but how many people keep up with Juubi Madaras speed on feet, land hits and posses ftg on top of this.

 

[slimreaper]

for that reaction he went eh. he then made the ! reaction to sasuke being where his sword was. I didn't twist shit, you're just retarded[/QUOTE]
Lol please calm down, don't get mad, i think its possible you can read because in the very next set off panels Sasuke explained that Madara's Shadow came back to him a shadow he previously attacked.

that doesn't explain how sasuke popped up where the sword was.

 

[Mr SwizZz]

No he isnt =D stop fapboying

The reason Madara got cut was because he was busy taking kakashi's eye + teleporting to kamui world to get obito's rinnegan.
Quite simply, he didnt have time/didnt care about sasuke, simple as that.

On the other hand, when Naruto was attacking Madara had his guard up and tried to defent against Naruto's attacks at full power.

But in the page you showed, Madara simply didnt give half a shit about Sasuke there.

Naruto has the senjutsu of the six paths + SM before sage powerup+bm, so its safe to say Naruto will always be stronger/faster than the sidekick =D

 

[shadowcb]

he never even stopped once getting kakashi's eye

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So what's your point. I never said that Sasuke is not fast I stated he is not faster than Naruto. Like I said he was not focus or worried about Sasuke. We all saw how Sasuke's attack did not effect him all. It didn't stop him from warping and he did not need time to recover.

When Naruto attack him head on he was surprised, but he wasn't with Sasuke.

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[6ari8]

Well,that trick point is just my opinion and I guess it is wise to wait for a proper explanation.It is most likely similar to teleportation though and ofcourse Sasuke's striking speed greatly increased just like Naruto(I belive that Naruto is superior.).He was in no condition to counter someone of Sasuke or Naruto's caliber and it was more like Madara is not concerned about Sasuke's attack than Madara being unable to block him coz Madara's top priority is his Rinnegan in other dimension.

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You're actually overlooking one very important thing here; LIMBO. Madara does not have it on that panel when Sasuke cuts him because Naruto is dealing with it. Think for a second, the only way Madara reacted fast enough to Naruto's attack in the first place in this chapter was because of Limbo, without it his defense is not that effective. heck, by looking properly at Madara's expression and words you can see he wasn't too surprised by Sasuke's attack, he just couldn't react fast enough to it but had he some limbo goodness he would've blocked it like he did Naruto's.

the only one we've seen speed so great that Madara had absolutely no time at all to use limbo was Guy.

I think Madara didn't concern himself with that attack much plus Naruto was holding down the shadow Madara so that Sasuke could go after the original. In Naruto's case, Madara was fully prepared to counter yet he couldn't counter with his staff; He had to resort to Limbo. IMO, Naruto still has the advantage on speed. I'm still not sure what ability Sasuke's rinnegan hold yet but it seems to have some sort of a range and we'll understand it next chapter probably.

Also, don't forget that the chapter is supposed to showcase Sasuke's abilities so it's natural for him to do this much.

 

[KisameTheShark]

that doesn't explain how sasuke popped up where the sword was.

The answer is simple my friend.

Time manipulation affecting anyone within a short radius around him. This would also explain how his Rinnegan ability didn't affect Madara as he went further away.

But it is still a theory but a pretty plausible one at that.

 

[Berserker]

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I think Madara didn't concern himself with that attack much plus Naruto was holding down the shadow Madara so that Sasuke could go after the original. In Naruto's case, Madara was fully prepared to counter yet he couldn't counter with his staff; He had to resort to Limbo. IMO, Naruto still has the advantage on speed. I'm still not sure what ability Sasuke's rinnegan hold yet but it seems to have some sort of a range and we'll understand it next chapter probably.

Also, don't forget that the chapter is supposed to showcase Sasuke's abilities so it's natural for him to do this much.

Why are you assuming he could only counter with Limbo. Madara was busy looking at Sasuke, when Naruto attacked as well. If anything they are on par with foot speed because of that rasengan, chidori clash. FTG gives sasuke the edge, unless Naruto has it to.

 

[Champ]

Yeah. I didn think Sasuke speed would increase, but I was wrong.