thats the opposite of what he did. revealing their plan is for konohas benefit. he wanted to run from reality, not face up to it
its necessary because its the truth. and dont act like itachi did this for anyone but himself. he wanted to live in the delusion that the coup plan never happened rather than face the music as uchihas inevitably would have had to do had their plan gone off.
its clear that itachi keeping the secret proves hes nothing more than a selfish ass who cares more about reputation than truth and honor. a true corrupt douche of a man.
but he isnt protecting anything. hes just lying about the facts. there was nothing pure about uchihas to begin with lol. they were a brutal clan who were only loyal because senjus were stronger.
he wanted to pull the wool over everyones eyes and let them live in a pathetic oblivious fantasy. this is the fukin ninja world. we dont need to see such foolish shit in this world. doing dumbass crap like runing away from the reality and deluding the village into a lie is just going to backfire later on. theres no reason to keep this hidden except for itachis benefit.
again runing what? they were already a brutal clan. itachi has no right to decide what ruins their image and what doesnt. or even what their image is. hes one person.
he should trust konoha and leave it to them to decide if they want to vilify uchihas or not.
doesnt matter. its not his right or decision to decide what to hide and what not to hide.
if people dislike sasuke for being associated with a traitor clan, then they are douchebags who would probably do that for ANY reason. such as being the friend of the kurama jin. so there would never be any stopping people hating sasuke.
They didn't want to be remembered as traitors. But their actions could interpret them as traitors. That's what I'm trying to tell you. Itachi only gave them what THEY wanted.
nope. they wanted to be remembered as revolutionaries who would at least try to end the corruption.
all itachi needs to do is revreal the truth of both sides. both the corruption in danzo's side and the revolutionary aspect of his clan. then leave it to konoha to vilify whoever they want. either fugaku or danzo.
this would show hes a hero whos ready to trust the world with hard truths
pretending that villains are great people just gets innocents killed. thats why itachi trying to trick konoha into loving sasuke as the "uchihas avenger" was stupid and suicide.
evil's not a toy to be manipulated at your whim.
hell hiding the truth of uchiha clan will just prompt someone else to find it all out and reveal it later.
better you be honest now than vilified as a liar later.
like bane did to harvey in DKR.
and by doing so actually became one.
he threatened kurenais life, breached their borders and then started a fight. this is a declaration of war by akatsuki on konoha. people have started wars for FAAAR less in real life.
in fact some countries engineer situations like that just to justify an attack. akatsuki could have justified an all out assault on the grounds of konoha attacking their men.
the war of 5 kings in song of ice and fire started because the starks kidnapped tyrion. its a slight against a powerful nation so of course they cant afford to look weak.
in fact this occuring when tsunade is in the seat of power is probaly the only reason it wasnt immediately full scale war, snce shes a benevolent hokage trying to live up to hiruzens mercy.
prompting akatsuki to seek revenge and obliterate konoha lawl.
itachi ultimately made the first move of aggression and thus would be at fault if it came to war. him and nagato for ordering it.
if he cares about konohas safety, then i ask you why did he just try to start a full scale war?
she knows how strong akatsuki is. a slight against them begs retaliation. it wasnt till they had no choice and akatuski made their international attack by invading the sand, that konoha got involved.
nagato was the leader of akatsuki. his plan and motives dictate ignoring obito if necessary.
and obito would kill itachi if itachi started making akatsuki look bad or if the phase of the plan necessitated narutos capture at all costs.
obito admitted nagatos the leader to his face
"as the leader, failure cant be tolerated".
so yeah if itachi was higher up on akatsuki food chian he would have been severely punished for failing to get naruto. but hes just a goon that they wont trust with anything important.
doesnt matter. anyone with the knowledge of the kind of person obito is would try to get protection for other nations. if he doesnt accept that, he cant be expected to honor anything.
and suna is konohas ally in politics and economy. a slight against them means konoha will attack akatsuki meaning the treaty is broken.
what would obito do if konoha marched on the rain village? of course he would have to break the treaty and fight back.
itachi cant control what konoha does so its stupid to make such a deal.
and the fact that obito probably would remove him if necessary. itachi only wasnt killed by obito because he was dying regardless and obito knew he didnt have to do anything but wait.
and as i explained, akatsuki does whatever it wants. a little deal like that isnt gonna stop them. had itachi not died, he would be betrayed and killed anyway if he tried to hinder nagatos inevitable march on konoha.
the passage of time wasnt a wait for itachi to die. it was a wait to get the remaining bijuus. once sasuke beat deidara and itachi and kisame got roshi, THAT is when obito ordered nagato to go. knowing full well itachi was now too sick to be of any concern.
there is no protection deal as i explained. surely you see akatsuki has no reason to keep answering to that deal if they have 7 or 8 bijuus. with that firepower they can steamroll anyone who tries to hinder them.
they had no reason to answer to it before. only reason obito and nagto didnt kill itachi and go to konoha is because itachi was yet to be a true hindrance. as long as kurama remains free of akatsukis grasp, itachis life is just one more minor obstacle for the true powerhouses, removed for free by sasuke.
if itachis deal with akatsuki meant so much to him, how come he let sasuke kill him, when for all he knows, akatsukis forces were RIGHT OUTSIDE KONOHAS GATES just waiting for him to die and release them?
clearly he sacrified the safety of thousands of innocent lives for an end to sasukes feud with him.
only the fact that staying in it means hes ACTIVELY HELPING and speeding up akatsukis plans.
so they are going smoothly with their plans? then itachi killing himself at sasukes hands is even more worthless and uncaring of the number of people it condemns to the horrors of war.
if anything itachi should have found oro and got him to be revived as an edo. better they have someone as strong as him there rather than dead. and ive said it before.
waht if akatsuki makes an impossible demand of itachi? such as killing the sand village. will he just say NO? if he says no he will be treated as a traitor. thats why you dont get into bed with psychopaths
complete lie. he did everything he wanted to in order to start a world war and speed it up by helping the enemy and killing himself pointlessly.
HES ALREADY A HURDLE. as long as obito tells them about the deal, how long before kisame or others go on the attack?
you just said they were going smoothly after losing 4 members to konohas forces. now your saying they will give a shit that they lost one? when itachi could put up any excuse he likes as to why oro is dead or captured?
which he did coldly. and then he killed hundreds of thousands of people by letting akatsuki get the jins and pointlessly offing himself at sasukes hand.
no he does everything after woindering what would do the most damage to innocent people and what owuld cause the most pain to sasuke
no he can do that. akatsuki doesnt care if its lower members fight each other. fear of pain could easily stop the feuding.
only the inner circle truly matters. deidara is muscle
he must have since his reasoning for helping was for the greater good and would do so without orders. unless your admitting that itachi is a selfish inactive lazy little shit and would ahve let his clan rebel.
proving hismelf to have become an ireedeemable corrupt monster for ordering such horror.
genocide is genocide. theres never any justifying it.
except..you know...the humane options.
the story is full of contradictions. if he was ordered and forced into it then he didnt believe in its righteousness. but then we;re told hes a pacifist who would do anything to stop a world war. but then we are told itachi was horrified with himself and left sasuke alive to one day exact justice and end itachis pain.
so which is it?
was he ordered or not?
not stopping akatsuki isnt the same as not even TRYING to. i would hold nothing against itachi had he just used his last chakra to fight one or two akatsukis. since at that point he has nothing to lose but his own life.
yeah but itachi did nothing too.
which i wouldnt be so angry about if the manga didnt keep telling us itachi is a genius one of a kind whos nearly unbeatable.
asuma and jiraiya died because itachi selfishly did a piss poor job of spying and if he was undercover why did konoha know nothing?
he stopped about 3 edos which condemned the entire world to utter destruction as it let madara off his only remaining leash
also going after edo tensei and not juubi enabled juubi to revive almost unmolested.
itachi could have had a totsuka field day vs tobi's bijuus.
that one sentence ironically invalidated the entire kabuto fight and any "good" itachi may have done.
madara was the true and only real threat that side of the war besides sasuke.
he didnt save the kages. madara stayed behind and tried to finish them off with susano and mokuton. oro and karins entry into the war saved kages not itachi.
he had his chance to join the juubi fight but didnt, deciding to waste his time on obitos mere subordinates
itachi always did nothing ot help konoha and helped get them massacred by pain and orochimaru
which confirms him as an iredeemable monster who doesnt regret in the least all his other brutal crimes
wrong. hiruzen and itachi are just stupid psychopaths who want genocide over sane and humane solutions. for any faction in fiction or non fiction, genocide is the worst crossing of moral boundaries imaginable
NO IT ISNT. nagato DESTROYED IT.
the reason they upholded the deal is because they honor deals like that. the second they learnt itachi was dying after all, obito ordered nagato to go and get kyuubi. nagato would have abandoned konoha and gone to get naruto anyway. the reason he didnt is to spite tsunade who tried to defend the actions of the 5 nations. do you think that, if itachi tried to hinder nagatos revenge and convince him to stop, nagato wouldnt kill him too?
akatsuki steamrolls whoever's in their way when necessary. it just wasnt necessary to kill itachi and go to get naruto yet. akatsuki are patient people.
his death invalidated the deal and ensured konhas destruction. what you said is the opposite of what happened. his LIFE was a sacrifice. he killed hismelf out of guilt and to end sasukes feud with him. as a result obito was now free of the deal. free to order the attack.
which we know was never even really important to nagato. he would have left konoha relatively intact had they just betrayed naruto to him.
