Wouldn't this be also Precog?

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The Byakugan sees different from Sharingan:

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Precognition isn't even a term used in the series. It's the enhanced perception the eyes give that allow the user to foresee attacks by reading the Chakra flow.

Does it ever say that the chakra flow is the means by which you can read attacks? In fact, the Sharingan's main weakness is not being able to read chakra itself.
 

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When Sasuke says read his chakra and anticipate his movements, that statement is extremely vague. Is she reading where he's going? More than likely yes, reading his movements altogether is another story.

What does Sasuke mean by chakra-sight? We don't know what the hell that is, that in and of itself is extremely vague, we've never seen it mentioned or delved into any other time in the series. You are grasping for straws.

The Byakugan's penetrative ability is better, because it has X-Ray, long distance, 360 degree vision. No duh.

Can you expatiate on the bold? Aren't they the same thing?
 

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WHo needs precog anyway? The Hyuuga are good even without it. Hands up to those who agree? OH, I see 64 palms.
 

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Yes I also explained that skill and training is also a part of it but in the series via manga, anime, movie and filler we constantly see byakugan users predicting attacks
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That's also due to their 360 vision. In Neji's case it was already stated how he did that he made a barrier of chakra around him to know where an attack is coming from.
 
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When Sasuke says read his chakra and anticipate his movements, that statement is extremely vague. Is she reading where he's going? More than likely yes, reading his movements altogether is another story.

What does Sasuke mean by chakra-sight? We don't know what the hell that is, that in and of itself is extremely vague, we've never seen it mentioned or delved into any other time in the series. You are grasping for straws.

The Byakugan's penetrative ability is better, because it has X-Ray, long distance, 360 degree vision. No duh.

It's not vague at all. Everything comes down to chakra, it's not even complex, kishi isn't writing a detective novel lol.

The surging of greater than normal Chakra through the body is what gives Naruto such extreme speed, that is what it's referring. Viz often just shortens translation for better flow in english.

He even says Karin can anticipate movements by reading chakra. Anticipating movements is no longer exclusive to Sharingan.
 

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Precog aka future vision. Sharingan, yes. Byakugan, I don't think so.
 

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Also I remember Neji and Sasuke used Byakugan and Sharingan to perfectly read movements in Chunin exams. Not too much different the doujutsus are in regards to reading movements

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Also I remember Neji and Sasuke used Byakugan and Sharingan to perfectly read movements in Chunin exams. Not too much different the doujutsus are in regards to reading movements

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but it's weird if you think about it.

why would Neji need to mimic his moves when he can directly read his paper?
 

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It's not vague at all. Everything comes down to chakra, it's not even complex, kishi isn't writing a detective novel lol.

The surging of greater than normal Chakra through the body is what gives Naruto such extreme speed, that is what it's referring. Viz often just shortens translation for better flow in english.

He even says Karin can anticipate movements by reading chakra. Anticipating movements is no longer exclusive to Sharingan.

It's so funny how they want to make it more complicated than needed when it is so clear cut.

>Sight = ability to see
>Chakra-Sight = ability to see Chakra
>Chakra-Sight is credited with being able to foresee attacks
>Byakugan is said to be able to foresee attacks (Tenten/Shikadai)
>Byakugan, Rennigan, and Karin can see Chakra better than Sharingan
>All three surpass Sharingan in foreseeing attacks
 

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Does it ever say that the chakra flow is the means by which you can read attacks? In fact, the Sharingan's main weakness is not being able to read chakra itself.

Yes lol Sasuke says so both VS Naruto and VS Bee.
 

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Byakugan precog > Sharingan precog

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There is no such thing as Byakugan precog. You've misinterpreted the meaning completely.

Penetrating perceptive vision = eyesight. The Byakugan's field of vision is bigger and wider. The "chakra sight" thing is just another error on Viz's part, like the "teleportation jutsu" translation amongst other things.

OT: No, the Byakugan doesn't have precog.
 

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Byakugan does not have Precog. If it did it would be OP.
 

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Why not? They all see Chakra better than Sharingan, which is what Sasuke himself said is the reason for being able to foresee attacks both against Naruto and Bee.
 

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Why not? They all see Chakra better than Sharingan, which is what Sasuke himself said is the reason for being able to foresee attacks both against Naruto and Bee.

because it wasn't illustrated in the Manga that the Byakugan can foresee the attacks the same way it was with the Sharingan. and the Sharingan has a better feats. but it's not an impossibility though. let's just wait and see
 

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This is how I see it

Hanabi does posses the skills to dodge this Kunai attack as she is the Hyuga head
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but she did it more easily/effortlessly with her byakugan activated (using its form of precog)
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The episode prior had Shikidai explaining that the Byakugan basically has precog. Fast forward to this episode and Hanabi faces off against Boruto while having her byakugan active.

She was facing against him while tooting/bragging about the byakugan's abilities to try and have Boruto awaken his in combat.
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Like Kakashi never having a need to use his Sharingan against team 7 in part 1's traning excersie but choosing to do so in part 2, Kakashi added another layer to his depth prediction and reaction ability.


It is basically relying on the dojutsu to do the usual work for you so that you are free to do other things
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like a auto-pilot.
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So yes Hanabi can dodge this move without byakugan and there are times were the byakugan in needed
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but chooses to use have her byakugan active which makes it overly a breeze for her and overall helps her for other scenarios like this were the byakugan gives the edge
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There is no such thing as Byakugan precog. You've misinterpreted the meaning completely.

There is also no such thing as Sharingan precog. That term, precognition, is never used. It's about the acuity, keen perception, and insght that allows the Sharingan's ability to foresee attacks to work. We know Byakugan can foresee attacks too and we know it is superior to the Sharingan in insight as stated by Kakashi. Obviously means it's ability to forsee attacks > Sharingan's.

Penetrating perceptive vision = eyesight. The Byakugan's field of vision is bigger and wider.

Nope, penetrate is constantly used in terms of being able to understand/grasp things. The actual japanese in fact has Kakashi say insight.

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The "chakra sight" thing is just another error on Viz's part, like the "teleportation jutsu" translation amongst other things.
proof please
 

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because it wasn't illustrated in the Manga that the Byakugan can foresee the attacks the same way it was with the Sharingan.

what do you mean by this

and the Sharingan has a better feats.

No, you mean the Uchiha who use the sharingan's foreseeing powers have better feats. Foreseeing powers still rely on the user's reflexes and speed.

Regarding the eyes themselves, the Byakugan is superior to Sharingan because it's perception is above Sharingan's. And it's that acuity that allows Sharingan's foreseeing powers. We know Byakugan too can foresee attacks and we know it's acuity is above Sharingan's.
 
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