Wouldn't this be also Precog?

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If it was just plain insight or visual range/scope then she would've not known the future trajectory or pattern of it before he did the action.
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Of course she can see through him and she can also see what is behind her but the future action itself or reaction before the said action is a type of prediction analysis.

This is key for Hyuga members because they constantly train against other Hyuga who are all users of the gentle fist. One slip up or contact with the fist infused with their KKG chakra and not only is it chakra damage but also inner damage. (Boruto was lucky is Aunt didn't use it lol).

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Anyway back to the point, prediction analysis is key. As the Sharingan can predict and see future moves as long as it is not to cumbersome and unorthodox.

See Sasuke here:
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Once you know the basic orthodox method one with a high eye prowess can predict the outcome and see it as well in this case with the Sharingan
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but when it becomes more and more unorthodox, fast or complex it leads to problems.
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It is too much information for the 3T Sharingan to handle.


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Of course there is a limit for each eye be it byakugan or sharingan and the limit can likely be flexed out via the users training and or experience.

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Also any ninja can have some form of prediction analysis and with enough training dodge and predict people's moves by skill alone but not like the visual protection seen via the Sharingan.

It is also true that the user needs to train his body to react to such speeds, and that we don't know how combat looks like via a byakugan users eyes and that would be overly difficult to do seeing as it is a 360* lens. (We have only seen the X-ray field of view and the Searching one.)



We just need to see how the Byakugan does it.
 

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Byakugan precog > Sharingan precog

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I don't think that's precognition, dodging a kunai when you can clearly see where it's headed isn't a big feat. I believe Sasuke does the same thing when Temari throws kunai at him and his Sharingan was deactivated.
 

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There's a pretty obvious difference between literal precognition and simply being fast.
 

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No it's telescopic vision and 360 vision , no one really have precog, the sharingan read muscle movements and copy's and predicts the next move , the byakugan just see muscle movements really well
 

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thanks for this


does the byakugan also use its better chakra sight to predict stuff

how do they predict chakra-less objects direction like Kunai
 
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When Sasuke says read his chakra and anticipate his movements, that statement is extremely vague. Is she reading where he's going? More than likely yes, reading his movements altogether is another story.

What does Sasuke mean by chakra-sight? We don't know what the hell that is, that in and of itself is extremely vague, we've never seen it mentioned or delved into any other time in the series. You are grasping for straws.

The Byakugan's penetrative ability is better, because it has X-Ray, long distance, 360 degree vision. No duh.
 

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I don't think that's precognition, dodging a kunai when you can clearly see where it's headed isn't a big feat. I believe Sasuke does the same thing when Temari throws kunai at him and his Sharingan was deactivated.

yeah the Kunai part is the hard stuff not only for the byakugan but also the sharingan since Kunai, tools, weapons, etc... don't posses chakra
 

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does the byakugan also use its better chakra sight to predict stuff

how do they predict chakra-less objects direction like Kunai

I don't think even Sharingan precog has been shown to be able to predict weapon movements. Only humans. Who have chakra in them obviously. It is by reading that Chakra that they can predict how the enemy is going to move.
 

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What Hanabi did is avoid a Kunai which was clearly directed at her, not once but twice, the other from the backward direction.
Using her Byakugan, she could see both of that. Is that precognition. Hardly. I think in the Naruto universe, Precognition is made possible by seeing and sensing chakra. The Byakugan and Sharingan has every right to have precognition. we just need a solid evidence on the Byakugan's part.
 

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Brate first gif was simply dodging/avoiding. 2nd gif was from her 360 vision still having sight of Boruto.
 

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We need to know how the Byakugan does it

it has better chakra sensing then the Sharingan and could see the users muscles, tissue, bones, etc....


we also need to know what is the difference of prediction and precog since both eyes get a ton of information for which the user analyses and predicts

but when the information is unorthodox and chaotic then they fail as seen via the Sasuke Killer BEE fight
 

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When Sasuke says read his chakra and anticipate his movements, that statement is extremely vague. Is she reading where he's going? More than likely yes, reading his movements altogether is another story.

The difference is irrelevant. The point is seeing chakra = knowing what the opponent will do before they do it. Byakugan > Sharingan in seeing Chakra.

What does Sasuke mean by chakra-sight? We don't know what the hell that is, that in and of itself is extremely vague, we've never seen it mentioned or delved into any other time in the series. You are grasping for straws.

No lol it is very clear if you actually care to connect the dots. Chakra-sight = Seeing Chakra. Seeing Chakra = Anticipating attacks. Anticipating attacks = Seeing them before they happen. It can't get more clear than that.

The Byakugan's penetrative ability is better, because it has X-Ray, long distance, 360 degree vision. No duh.

Not penetrative. Penetrative perceptive ability. Big differece.
 
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Brate first gif was simply dodging/avoiding. 2nd gif was from her 360 vision still having sight of Boruto.

she predicts the trajectory and moves accordingly


similarly in the Hana vs Hinata fight they predict the trajectory and counter accordingly
 

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We need to know how the Byakugan does it

it has better chakra sensing then the Sharingan and could see the users muscles, tissue, bones, etc....


we also need to know what is the difference of prediction and precog since both eyes get a ton of information for which the user analyses and predicts

but when the information is unorthodox and chaotic then they fail as seen via the Sasuke Killer BEE fight

Precognition isn't even a term used in the series. It's the enhanced perception the eyes give that allow the user to foresee attacks by reading the Chakra flow.
 

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she predicts the trajectory and moves accordingly


similarly in the Hana vs Hinata fight they predict the trajectory and counter accordingly

Bruh everyone does that in the manga. Even Kakashi did something similar in part 1 with Sasuke.
 

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Precognition isn't even a term used in the series. It's the enhanced perception the eyes give that allow the user to foresee attacks by reading the Chakra flow.

I see so basically it makes complete sense as to why Byakugan the best eye in seeing chakra flow would be able to predict movements.



Sasuke stated the same thing but how does walking, punching, etc... move via chakra movement?


the Narutoverse anatomy is likely different then ours lol
 

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Bruh everyone does that in the manga. Even Kakashi did something similar in part 1 with Sasuke.

Yes I also explained that skill and training is also a part of it but in the series via manga, anime, movie and filler we constantly see byakugan users predicting attacks
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