Would you consider Guy a kage level shinobi?

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if we consider in the term of strength, Guy is probably at Kage lvl...but he's lack of knowledge and not pretty smart as I can remembered, he can't even remember Kisame name, so no..to be a Kage required strength, knowledge and will :scorps:
 

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He and Kakshi are Kage-level shinobi no doubt. Hell, Kakshi was fighting 3 Version 2 Jinchuriki. Alone and Guy was fighting the Six-Tails alone. However, Guy doesn't seem like the type that'd be fit for Hokage.
 

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Smarts don't have a thing to do with being a kage if we take A into consideration so yes. Gai is very much so kage level.
 

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Are people implying that A isn't smart? I think y'all are taking that Sasuke battle too much to heart. Heck, Sasuke was an idiot in that fight much of the time. A was just extremely pissed because he was fighting the guy he thought had caused his brother to be killed.
 

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His speed and strength is Kage level, although eh doesn't have the brains to govern a village. He's a Kage level ninja, but not a kage material.
 

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He is ok with tai but not with nin IMO
 

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I guess he is at Kage level since people say Kakashi is and those two are rivals so Gai must be too :shrug:
 

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Yes, Gai is definitely Kage level in terms of power. You got to admire a guy who fights SOLEY by Taijutsu. And it's not even that he can't use ninjutsu, he CHOOSES to fight without it. That's so badass!

But like everyone says here, he's not that smart. Isn't his rating like a 3 of 5 for intelligence? You've got to be wise to lead a village. He'd do a damn good job protecting it, though.

I'd really like to see him somehow get even stronger or another power boost somehow. It seems since he doesn't use any ninjutsu, he's an inferior version of A and B.
 

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he technically is cuz if he goes to 8th gate that is a power stronger or as strong as a kage
 

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Are people implying that A isn't smart? I think y'all are taking that Sasuke battle too much to heart. Heck, Sasuke was an idiot in that fight much of the time. A was just extremely pissed because he was fighting the guy he thought had caused his brother to be killed.

What about earlier in the kage summit where he threw a temper tantrum and punched the desk while trying to gain leadership position.
Or when he could think of no better solution than kill Naruto *since* he has less experience than his brother
Or when only one person has ever evaded his attack (therefore its not actually a measure of strength but speed) that he rests the fate of the entire world on Naruto's speed rather than Naruto's strength.
Or having to ride on the coattails of Tsunade when she said she was going to battle (apparently it didn't occur to him that all kage power would be helpful)
OR what about after his fight with Sasuke when he ripped his arm off with no way to get another one and screwing himself to hulk smash.
Or what about when he looked directly into Sasuke's MS.
Or when he decided to hit slap amaterasu
or when he decided to give up his leg to get revenge
 
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What about earlier in the kage summit where he threw a temper tantrum and punched the desk.
Or when he could think of no better solution than kill Naruto *since* he has less experience than my brother
Or when only one person has every evaded his attack (therefore its not actually a measure of strength but speed) that he rests the fate of the entire world on Naruto's speed.
Or having to ride on the coattails of Tsunade when she said she was going to battle (apparently it didn't occur to him that all kage power was helpful)
OR what about after his fight with Sasuke when he ripped his arm off with no way to get another one and screwing himself to hulk smash.
Or what about when he looked directly into Sasuke's MS.

At the summit, even Mifune later stated it was rather obvious that his anger steemed from B's apparent death and the fact that the men thought to have killed him came from their villages.

It wasn't that he was trying to kill Naruto *Because* he had less experience but because he was risking the world's future by entering a war against opponents who had defeated 7/9 of the Jinchuriki.

I don't think you understood. Minato was supposed to be the "Savior of this World". He was the only person to have ever avoided A at his full speed. Naruto said that Minato passed on everything to him. A thought Minato was someone who would never be surpassed. Thus he recognized that the "Savior" was alive in Naruto when he avoided the punch just the way Minato did, which bith Tsunade and B noting the similarities.

Agian, you don't understand. You NEVER send in your Medic-nin to the front lines. Who's going to heal you when necessary? She went in when she absolutely had to.

Like I (and Mifune) said, that was mainly because the whole Killer B thing. Not to mention I think losing one arm was worth possibly ridding the world of a powerful foe.

He never looked directly into Sasuke's MS, otherwise Sasuke would have cast Tsukuyomi on him. A simply observed that he activated it and thus upped the strength of his Lighting Release Armour.


Dude, it's like you tried to misread the manga. o_O
 
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Yes, Gai is definitely Kage level in terms of power. You got to admire a guy who fights SOLEY by Taijutsu. And it's not even that he can't use ninjutsu, he CHOOSES to fight without it. That's so badass!

But like everyone says here, he's not that smart. Isn't his rating like a 3 of 5 for intelligence? You've got to be wise to lead a village. He'd do a damn good job protecting it, though.

I'd really like to see him somehow get even stronger or another power boost somehow. It seems since he doesn't use any ninjutsu, he's an inferior version of A and B.

Careful with giving him another power boost. With the gates, it'd probably be his last.
 

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If A can be a kage so can Guy. Guy has more power and speed in my opinion when he gets to 7th gate and his base Tai jutsu is better. People need to realise you don't actually need that much wisdom like the 4th hokage or someone, you can still be a good kage without provided you have a good team which I guarantee he will.
 

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He is in Kage level with those gates, of course..
 

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his strength is but his mind isn't.... he lacks wisdom man!
 

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Many people both in the manga and around the base consider kakashi a kage level. It is also widely assumed that Guy is about as strong as kakashi. However I never hear him mentioned on the list of ninjas that could be considered kages (sannin, akatsuki, kakashi, etc). What do you guys think? Should he be regarded as a kage level or just a very strong jounin?

guy is certainly strong but the problem is there are just too many people who can be a bad match up for him.
 

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What about earlier in the kage summit where he threw a temper tantrum and punched the desk.
Or when he could think of no better solution than kill Naruto *since* he has less experience than my brother
Or when only one person has every evaded his attack (therefore its not actually a measure of strength but speed) that he rests the fate of the entire world on Naruto's speed.
Or having to ride on the coattails of Tsunade when she said she was going to battle (apparently it didn't occur to him that all kage power was helpful)
OR what about after his fight with Sasuke when he ripped his arm off with no way to get another one and screwing himself to hulk smash.
Or what about when he looked directly into Sasuke's MS.

You're being biased and intentionally ignoring some key facts.

For one, A was the one that decided that something needed to be done about Akatsuki and called for a Kage meeting to ascertain the other kage and village's loyalties.

Sure he threw a tantrum, but you clearly ignore the intelligent points that were concerning him during that tantrum.

If you'd actually listened topm what he was saying during that 'tantrum', then you would know that there is nothing stupid about A. He questioned all the village's loyalties, and rightly so, asking why he should trust konoha, who have the most Akatsuki members (Madara, Tobi, Sasuke, Itachi, Orochimaru, Nagato and Konan were also trained by Jiraiya), he then questioned Iwa's loyalties. who had done nothing about their jinchuuriki being captured and were known to have used/worked with akatsuki in the past. He also questioned the Sand because they had also used akatsuki and theior former kazegake had dealings with an Akatsuki member (Orochimaru) before his death and questioned kiri for their secretive nature and because of being rumored to be the true origines of Akatsuki. He wanted the other kage to explain themselves so that he can decide what to do and also he wanted to ascertain their loyalties.

And can you blame him for being oissed, Akatsuki captured his dear brother, they are all facing the akatsuki crisis but instead the other kage at the summit (besides Mei) wqere busy throwing childish insults at each other (Danzo, Onoki, gaara), if anything, A was the most mature and wise person there (not counting Misfune), he just has a different way of showing it.

As for Sasuke, obviously A was pissed and emotional at the time, the guy had 'killed' his brother and Naruto was selfishly trying to convince A not to punish sasuke (an S rank criminal with many crimes) beofre the summit. His fighting methods are questionable, but do not neglect the fact that at the time A was the only one that seemed to be willing to shoulder the responsibility of ridding the world of the Akatsuki, all the other Kage were either fence sitting (Onoki, danzo, and even Mei at the start) or protecting the criminals (Gaara and Naruto trying to protect sasuke). who wouldnt be pissed under those circumstances. Mayn even Misfune acknowledged A's interlect when the kage started working together, once again A immediately took chrage and came up with solutions and ideas in order to handle the situation, causing the other Kage to trust him as the head of the alliance and Misfune to recomend him.

Dont confuse being immotional with being stupid, A is far from stupid, and mos def WAY smarter then Guy.

As for A entrusting his will to Naruto because of speed, that was talk non jutsu yo, we all know that Naruto will win the war withn talk no jutsu in the end, itsd been the theme since the beginning, he just sprouted some nonsense to make A convert to his side, just like he did with Nagato and Itachi at the forest, and many others.

Sorry for the long post by the way, but I hate it when I see these types of subjective comments about A.
 

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Smarts don't have a thing to do with being a kage if we take A into consideration so yes. Gai is very much so kage level.

smart don't have a thing to do with being a kage??! lol, I see why Kakashi had nearly crown as Hokage instead of Gai :rolleyes:
 

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power wise he is. i dont know about intelligence though!
 

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The manga stated that most jonin are Kage level shinobi. You just have to be the strongest in your village to be named Kage. Gai is indeed Kage level but IMO he isn't stronger than tsunade. Same goes for kakashi both are Kage level just aren't the strongest in their village.
 
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