Would you agree that Might Guy, Kakashi and Itachi could be considered a deadlock?

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8gates vs itachi is a loss also kamui vs itachi is a loss

itachi wins med diff
 

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Might Guy - Taijutsu Legendary Engineering Technician, Genius

Shisui Uchiha - Genjutsu Legendary level Genius

3rd Hokage - Ninjutsu Legendary level Genius
 

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Wrong. Naruto's Rasenshuriken is on the same size as Itachi's Susano or almost... But my point is that the other techniques granted by the Mangekyō Sharingan, the user's eyes and body are strained while using Susanoo because it consumes a large amount of their chakra. Sasuke and even Itachi described it as feeling pain in every cell in their body which only grew from prolonged use.

AND one more thing... The only known methods of attacking the user while Susanoo is active are to draw the wielder out of the technique and then attack, bind and restrict its movements, or to break the defence with overwhelming force like Guy's 8th Gate punch. Susanoo users are also vulnerable to attacks which don't actually deal physical damage to it, such as strong lights and sounds, which can also impair their ability to sustain Susanoo. Itachi's Susano can block every attacks except from behind. Tsunade has shown to break Madara's Susano, so by that Guy's speed and strength can actually pierce down the Susano. Look how powerful when Guy is on 7th and 8th Gate, EVEN Hashirama doesn't stand a chance.

You almost had me convinced, until that last line. When will people see that Guy's 8th Gate is useless. Notice how there have been other dangerous situations, and he hasn't used it until now. Guy wouldn't use the 8th Gate on Itachi, despite how strong of an opponent he is. And the comment about Hashirama. Really? You're going to try and argue that?
 

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Hirudora you swine. Lel.

And nah, as much as I hate to admit, Susano'o eats Hirudora.

Itachi was able to keep up with KCM Naruto, guy won't be faster than that, and if he is Itachi whips out susano'o. No way is hirudora stronger than that.


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I like Gai, but being realistic here, do you honestly believe that Itachi would even let Gai get to the point where he would use the 8th gate? Itachi has a tendency to end his battles quickly, that's just always been his way. Suicide also isn't always the best option in battle. :/

i agree with u i highly doubt itachi would allow gai to enter the 8th gate since in base form itachi is far greater than gai...
 

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Itachi is winning this. He only didn't fight Gai back in pt1, because he was on Konoha's side and wasn't interested in combat in the first place. The databook also gives him higher stats than both of them and he has better feats in the manga.

Feats don't account for skill in this. This is a comparison of their compensation of each other. They handle what I would consider to be their greatest weaknesses. Gai handles any individual that could use the only weakness Itachi truly has, Taijutsu. Kakashi handles Guys weakness Ninjutsu and Itachi carries them both with Genjutsu. Perfect deadlock.
 

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what u saw is hirudora knock it back and then u saw an explosion u dnt knw if it broke susano or destroyed it, what we do know is madara's susano tanked tbb's and im sure tbb > hirudora, what u are doing is hoping/assuming gai destroyed susano without any concrete proof just for the sake of your argument
 

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Might Guy - Taijutsu Legendary Engineering Technician, Genius

Shisui Uchiha - Genjutsu Legendary level Genius

3rd Hokage - Ninjutsu Legendary level Genius

Yeah, but in the end Itachi's genjutsu was the one that changed the world. Don't forget that. Itachi's Izanami was well placed. Remind me what genjutsu Shisui did to change the world?

3rd Hokage - Agree, and also disagree. He knew all of Konoha's Jutsu. Kakashi could instantly learn another village's Jutsu and use his sharingan to teach it to Itachi or tell him. So I think Itachi would appreciate rolling with Kakashi on this one.
 

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Shisui was hailed at being the Genjutsu master of the Uchiha clan, so no.

To be fair Kakashi is hardly the 'master' of ninjutsu though. I don't think they're a deadlock, more like the most awesome and balanced 3-man squad.
 

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Feats don't account for skill in this. This is a comparison of their compensation of each other. They handle what I would consider to be their greatest weaknesses. Gai handles any individual that could use the only weakness Itachi truly has, Taijutsu. Kakashi handles Guys weakness Ninjutsu and Itachi carries them both with Genjutsu. Perfect deadlock.

its not a deadlock, itachi is clearly above them both and his weakness is not taijutsu, if he and gai fight in taijutsu base itachi will certainly win even kakashi has kept up with gai base in taijutsu, now if u are saying gated gai taijutsu is itachi's weakness then of course gated gai's taijutsu is everybody's weakness even Godara's as u can see...just because one person is visibly better than u in taijutsu(gates) doesnt mean its your weakness, all u are doing is trying to put itachi with kakashi and gai but he clearly is better than both and wouldnt even allow gai to enter the 8th gate let alone allow kakashi to use kamui, that whole feet watching method gai says he uses on the sharingan has never gotten gai the win over kakashi so why would it work on itachi...

.not only that but itachi is better than kakashi who is on par with base gai in taijutsu and the sharingan has read movements as fast as A's and killer bee's and both of them are way faster than base gai also obito easliy read base gai's movements even while his nun chucks and even caught them barehanded...itachi ha sonly one weakness and thats his terminal illness
 

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this is not itachi susanoo and gai not fighting 1on1 there and still no proof that susanoo was destroyed.itachi susanoo is much stronger with yata and totsuka.
 

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Yeah, but in the end Itachi's genjutsu was the one that changed the world. Don't forget that. Itachi's Izanami was well placed. Remind me what genjutsu Shisui did to change the world?

3rd Hokage - Agree, and also disagree. He knew all of Konoha's Jutsu. Kakashi could instantly learn another village's Jutsu and use his sharingan to teach it to Itachi or tell him. So I think Itachi would appreciate rolling with Kakashi on this one.

llab at u, dude it is the sharingan that allows kakashi to do that...do itachi have the sharingan???? yes so why would he want to be taught by a copied jutsu from kakashi if he can go out and do the same thing...it seems to me uchiha dnt want to use copied jutsu and prefer there own jutsu with the exception of sasuke who had to find his way in search of power but he did make his own version and variation of the raikiri....
 

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i agree with u i highly doubt itachi would allow gai to enter the 8th gate since in base form itachi is far greater than gai...

I disagree. Itachi utilized his mind and kishi, credit to him, portrayed that character to the fans of Naruto, as he did to the characters inside of Naruto. Itachi was strong but the reason he didn't go about saving the world himself is because he knew he wasn't that strong. He knew his chakra reserves were low. He did great things and things that mattered because he knew his limits and paid attention to every opportunity to exceed them both in the minds of people and the deeds he could accomplish. He was a well thought out character, but you must understand that his power came from his intelligence not because of his abilities.
 

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this is not itachi susanoo and gai not fighting 1on1 there and still no proof that susanoo was destroyed.itachi susanoo is much stronger with yata and totsuka.

Also realize Gai was exhausted too and if you didn't notice he did that from base.
 

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I disagree. Itachi utilized his mind and kishi, credit to him, portrayed that character to the fans of Naruto, as he did to the characters inside of Naruto. Itachi was strong but the reason he didn't go about saving the world himself is because he knew he wasn't that strong. He knew his chakra reserves were low. He did great things and things that mattered because he knew his limits and paid attention to every opportunity to exceed them both in the minds of people and the deeds he could accomplish. He was a well thought out character, but you must understand that his power came from his intelligence not because of his abilities.


dude u are just openly hating on itachi its clear as day...u say shit like he was strong but he knew he wasnt that strong??? wtf, kishi damn near wrote ever prominent shinobi in the manga to praise itachi for something so what are u talking about he didnt think he was strong when everyone in the manga disagrees with u and i hpe u dnt mean save the world by yourself because clearly 1 man cant do that if its taking a whole world of shinobi to stop 1 person........the rest of your post is irrelevant this answers all of it....
 

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Also realize Gai was exhausted too and if you didn't notice he did that from base.

so u think there would have been more force behind it??? of course not


also u need to take into consideration gai would have not gotten that opportunity if the gyuki wasnt there basically protecting him, most likely gai would have died trying to fight madara 1 vs 1 but he had help so its easy to land an attack when u are facing 1 opponent and u have a lot of help...
 

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dude u are just openly hating on itachi its clear as day...u say shit like he was strong but he knew he wasnt that strong??? wtf, kishi damn near wrote ever prominent shinobi in the manga to praise itachi for something so what are u talking about he didnt think he was strong when everyone in the manga disagrees with u and i hpe u dnt mean save the world by yourself because clearly 1 man cant do that if its taking a whole world of shinobi to stop 1 person........the rest of your post is irrelevant this answers all of it....
See, I'm not bias when I praise Itachi. I understand him. He said it himself. How good are your eye's? I paid attention. Itachi used Tsukuyomi one time and had to deactivate his sharingan. It's nuts how guy cant go 8 gates in this vs scenario but Itachi can use abilities to go blind. All I was saying is Guy is the number one candidate for beating Itachi without foreign power ups. But truth be told, Itachi's genjutsu is still active, lmao.
 

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dude u are just openly hating on itachi its clear as day...u say shit like he was strong but he knew he wasnt that strong??? wtf, kishi damn near wrote ever prominent shinobi in the manga to praise itachi for something so what are u talking about he didnt think he was strong when everyone in the manga disagrees with u and i hpe u dnt mean save the world by yourself because clearly 1 man cant do that if its taking a whole world of shinobi to stop 1 person........the rest of your post is irrelevant this answers all of it....

Also you contradicted yourself. The one person everyone is fighting is doing just that by the way.
 
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