Would Itachi have defended Konoha from Pain if he were still alive?

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its most def would have changed the whole fight nagato couldnt even beat sm naruto he had to use his more powerful moves and in the end naruto still won it nagato would have lost that fight a long time ago if Itachi where there to help naruto
 

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I don't think there would've been a konoha invasion if itachi was alive. Nagato is not stupid enough to drag himself and another shinobi into fight who could very well end his life with one wrong move. What I do know is, nagato would've found other ways of capturing the kyubi since that was his motive in the first place.
 

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its most def would have changed the whole fight nagato couldnt even beat sm naruto he had to use his more powerful moves and in the end naruto still won it nagato would have lost that fight a long time ago if Itachi where there to help naruto

dude gtfo now your a disgrace to naruto base, pain wasnt trying to kill naruto the whole time he was trying to capture him so he wasnt going full strenth on naruto get that through your head if painwanted to kill naruto he could have a long time ago like whin he pinned him down he could of killed him but no he tried to capture him and he used shibaku tensei to trie and capture naruto in it he wasnt trying to kill him :flaw:
 

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probably... I just don't think it would have reached to the point of nagato invading/ smashing konoha to pieces if itachi was still around. Looks, to me at least, that that was what itachi was trying to do: avoid an all out confrontation between konoha and the akatsuki.
 

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probably... I just don't think it would have reached to the point of nagato invading/ smashing konoha to pieces if itachi was still around. Looks, to me at least, that that was what itachi was trying to do: avoid an all out confrontation between konoha and the akatsuki.

Agreed.

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Allow me to put this simply, Tobi would not have allowed 6POP to attack the village with Itachi alive, it's as simple as that so yes the outcome would change if he lived because the attack would not have happened. If they did eventually decide to attack regardless which is a pretty foolish idea I'm positive he would have leaked info about the 6POP's secret to Naruto and he would probably go after 6POP before he got the chance to attack the village.
 

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Did Itachi helped when Orochimaru attacked the village, NO!

Itachi said, "He lied to other so much, that even he began to believe those lies." So Itachi believed he evil at one point in time.
 

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Itachi doesnt enter a fight he can't win. If Itachi had fought Nagato, he wld hav won...
 

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I think Itachi wouldve had a huge impact and saved the village, unless your saying Itachi is going to be far away from Pein. So that Pein could have a chance to do his moves. But if Itachi got close enough Pein would have to focus all of his paths attention on 1 man. Leaving Itachi to take them out.
 

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itachi knows nagato existence, he would directly go to nagato hiding place and seal him
game over, know body know how all pains died

That's very true. He might try to convince Nagato by talking to him first though.
 

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It's been said many times, Itachi is the reason the Akastuki stayed away from the village. He also was in possesion of the Legendary Sword of Totsuga. The only actual way to stop Orochimaru from using his reincarnation. So Itachi would've believed that the 3rd hokage was strong enough to beat Orochimaru considering Oro was Hiruzen's student.

Now Itachi's Mangekyo combined with his training and pacifist views would be too much for Nagato's rinnegan. Itachi is also a jutsu expert, having been partnered with Orochimaru and obviously intellegent enough to know how to handle shinobi with high chakra levels, such as Kisame. I think if Pain was to attack Konoha, Tobi would've dealt with him as a traitor as he did Konan. However, the consequences would not be the same because Tobi said that the jutsu Nagato used to bring back the lives he took was to be used for him. So, Tobi would've need Nagato alive.

I hope that makes some sort of sense.
 

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To be honest this is a bad question to ask because Pain wasn't ordered to crash konoha. He just had an order to retrieve the nine tailes. If he was alive he would have done nothing because:
1. He wouldn't know about the operation
2. He can't just interfear without losing his identity so therefore Tobi would have to calm the situation by talking to pain in his lair to stick to the plan.

What I see Both Tobi and Nagato knew Itachi's love to konoha they wouldn't try to provoke itachi (BTW: I not a Itachi fan but all three where at that time at the same level and would not fight eachother for some stupid stuffs).
 

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It's been said many times, Itachi is the reason the Akastuki stayed away from the village. He also was in possesion of the Legendary Sword of Totsuga. The only actual way to stop Orochimaru from using his reincarnation. So Itachi would've believed that the 3rd hokage was strong enough to beat Orochimaru considering Oro was Hiruzen's student.

Now Itachi's Mangekyo combined with his training and pacifist views would be too much for Nagato's rinnegan. Itachi is also a jutsu expert, having been partnered with Orochimaru and obviously intellegent enough to know how to handle shinobi with high chakra levels, such as Kisame. I think if Pain was to attack Konoha, Tobi would've dealt with him as a traitor as he did Konan. However, the consequences would not be the same because Tobi said that the jutsu Nagato used to bring back the lives he took was to be used for him. So, Tobi would've need Nagato alive.

I hope that makes some sort of sense.

dude what dont you get tobi said pain was the strongest in akatsuki so pain is stronger than itachi simple as that but akatsuki will not attck konoha because tobi made a deal with itachi but if tobi really wanted to he would attack konoha and itachi wont be able to stop it even if he finds nagatos body konan will be there to protect him the only way he would be able to stop pain is by talking him out of it and dont say itachi can beat konan, because kisame is loyall to tobi and tobi will sent kisame as back up to make sure itachi doesnt do any thing to jepeordize his plans
 

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To be honest this is a bad question to ask because Pain wasn't ordered to crash konoha. He just had an order to retrieve the nine tailes. If he was alive he would have done nothing because:
1. He wouldn't know about the operation
2. He can't just interfear without losing his identity so therefore Tobi would have to calm the situation by talking to pain in his lair to stick to the plan.

What I see Both Tobi and Nagato knew Itachi's love to konoha they wouldn't try to provoke itachi (BTW: I not a Itachi fan but all three where at that time at the same level and would not fight eachother for some stupid stuffs).

i agree with most of it but pain can beat itachi tobi said he was the strongest of them all in the magna so no one can beat him in a one on one even with some intel they would still lose, but they wont attack konoha because of the deal made between tobi and itachi
 

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I'm not sure if it's been posted yet but here's the page where it says Pain is the strongest in the akatsuki, there's no character bias it's stating a fact.

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That so-called strongest man lost to Naruto and is Tobi's b***h.
Itachi never lost to Naruto /Thread
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But Itachi is a Konoha shinobi 1st
Tobi knew he nor Nagato couldnt beat Itachi, so he waited for Itachi to die of his illness to attack the village.
 
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Death and the destruction of the village will still be inevitable even if Itachi was there.
 

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Indeed, the Yata Mirror has been described as a shield which can repel any attack. Alot of people have wrongly taken this statement to be absolute, and i'll further explain why.

Kishimoto complicated matters by introducing the bluntsword, Kabutowari. He described it as the sword that crushes all defenses.

Logically, 'All defences' includes the Yata Mirror itself, leading us to conclude that it would be able to crush the Mirror; this is an impossibility due to the authors previous description of the Yata Mirror.

There cannot be an immovable object (Yata Mirror) if there remains an unstoppable force (Kabutowari) - this is the conclusion reached by those who can use basic logic. The hype from one object contradicts the hype from another, and people must not be under the illusion that one 'hype' is superior to another.

So what on earth was Kishimoto on about then?
It was actually a basic use of hyperbole - obvious and intentional exaggeration or an extravagant statement or figure of speech not intended to be taken literally, as "to wait an eternity." Kishimoto has used hyperbole many times in this manga:

- To call Minato unparalled
- The Yata Mirror invincible
- Kisame not even being 'able to make a difference against' Jiraiya
- Amaterasu is 'as hot as the sun'
- To describe Hashirama as being a fairytale similar to the Sage of 6 Paths.

People need to understand that such statements cannot be taken to be the literal truth; Kishi overexaggerates what he says about characters/objects in order to better describe them.

Gedo Mazo only crippled Nagato when he used one jutsu; the Soul Removal Dragon. It does not cripple him by simply being summoned.

Its simple, you can just say the Yata is superior cause it never failed. Unlike the other item.
Its also 3 of the sacred tools.
 

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1- as long as itachi was alive, konoha wasn't getting touched. tobi could have sent pain when itachi was alive, so tobi would know why itachi would be such a problem for pain.
2- if this situation came to pass, itachi would probably outsmart pain by acting upon konoha before pain got there (i.e lure sasuke and naruto to him with timing), or going head to head with pain and using his combat knowledge.

itachi obviously would be prepared for this, as he has for everything thrown his way after the uchiha massacre.
 

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After, he is putting SO much faith into naruto... :p

Yes I think he would, in a well constructed way, so everybody thinks he is still the bad guy.

The village really should know about the true story of the uchiha -.-
 
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