Would Itachi have defended Konoha from Pain if he were still alive?

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Itachi>Nagato
Itachi<<<6 Paths

Itachi would have defened Konoha in the way of persuation instead of fighting. I think he would try to convince Nagato that his way of Peace is incorrect and hopefully have Nagato side with him to go against Tobis order together.

itachi is not stronger than pein or nagato, Kishi confirmed it long ago.
 

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His intellect is enough for him to beat pein he would figure out nagatos position by seeing the chakra transmitted with his sharingan and eventually win but with help from others you have to take into account alot of op ninja in naruto cannot be beat solo and it takes a team effort
 

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Unless he throws his Totsuka Blaze at Deva Path, lol.

Deva could simply dodged it.....Only reason why Nagato got hit is because he cant walk and he was triple teamed. Dont get it twisted.
 

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His intellect is enough for him to beat pein he would figure out nagatos position by seeing the chakra transmitted with his sharingan and eventually win but with help from others you have to take into account alot of op ninja in naruto cannot be beat solo and it takes a team effort

Even if he could find him you think Nagato is just going to let Itachi walts on over and kill him?
 
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itachi easily die in exhaustion. look at itachi when he used amaterasu on jiraiya summon the frog stomach 1 amaterasu and he is tired. he used tsukuyumi on itachi in just split seconds that day and he rest with kisame. lol his chakra is too low. dont even bring up that itachi vs sasuke. pain can exhaust sasuke without dying unlike itachi
No, he wouldnt & he had already overused the mangekyou sharingan on Kakashi right before that fight otherwise Kisame wouldnt have had a reason to point it out the effects and his tiredness in the beginning. Just because Itachi has a sickness doesnt mean he'll be tired after doing one move or getting hit by someone. He was one of the only akatsuki members who's chakra and taijustu speed is on par with a jinchurikis. :rolleyes:

Nobody can use this fight as a reference for so many reasons
1)He didnt take his medicine so he wasnt at full power
2)He fought 2 people that day literally right before Sasuke, the jinchuriki they captured and he spared with Kisame before that fight & exhausted his mangekyou during that spar
3)He planned to die by his brother & he was fighting on level with him
4)He has monsterous chakra but used half of it before that fight, even on low chakra he was able to use Susanoo completely
5)And he planned to take Oro away from him
6)He planned to give his oscular powers to him

Also you just told someone to not use Sasuke vs Itachi to pull out points but you just did right now. :flaw: They can both exhast Sasuke without dying. Itachi was never trying to kill Sasuke at all.
 
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I thought it was common knowledge that (except of course by those in denial)
- Nagato> Itachi
-6PoP>Itachi
and even
-Deva can last with Itachi do serious damage.

now what I believe about Itachi making a difference, Id say yes and no.

I dont think Itachi can really do anything about chou shinra tensei destroying the leaf (unless of course he appears before pain confirms that Naruto's not there)

but as for the fight afterwards, if Itachi suddenly appeared besides Naruto, I think they could win without using plot no jutsu. (granted Pain would be trying not to kill Naruto, and as most of his moves are AOE types, it would be much, much harder on pain and make him have a massive disadvantage)

Also I believe Pain would be very disappointed at Itachi, I don't believe he'd fear him or anything, I mean the guy is the god of the hidden rain, and thinks he's God.



and finally contrary to popular belief I believe Nagato/ Pain are underrated, yeah sure there are some loony Nagato/pain fans, but theres not as many people like that as there are people who are underrating him.


P.S. a important thing to note is Itachi would be very sick (although Im talking about Itachi healthy)
 

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These Itachi fanboys are an absolute disgrace.
 

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Oh, you want to talk about the hyperbole mirror? I could disgrace you right now but I will give you a choice of ignoring this message and moving on my friend.

Just going off "manga facts" and please don't confuse healthy Nagato with sick Nagato... there is a reason why we never saw Nagato use Gedo Mazo again...
 
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Deva could simply dodged it.....Only reason why Nagato got hit is because he cant walk and he was triple teamed. Dont get it twisted.

He cant walk but he can dodge a healthy itachi, BM Naruto and Killer B whos speed is at 4ths level at mac speed & they triple teamed to destroy the celestial blast nagato used, nagato getting hit by the sword was because of the fact that there was dirt flying everywhere
 

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Just going off "manga facts" and please don't confuse healthy Nagato with sick Nagato... there is a reason why we never saw Nagato use Gedo Mazo again...

Indeed, the Yata Mirror has been described as a shield which can repel any attack. Alot of people have wrongly taken this statement to be absolute, and i'll further explain why.

Kishimoto complicated matters by introducing the bluntsword, Kabutowari. He described it as the sword that crushes all defenses.

Logically, 'All defences' includes the Yata Mirror itself, leading us to conclude that it would be able to crush the Mirror; this is an impossibility due to the authors previous description of the Yata Mirror.

There cannot be an immovable object (Yata Mirror) if there remains an unstoppable force (Kabutowari) - this is the conclusion reached by those who can use basic logic. The hype from one object contradicts the hype from another, and people must not be under the illusion that one 'hype' is superior to another.

So what on earth was Kishimoto on about then?
It was actually a basic use of hyperbole - obvious and intentional exaggeration or an extravagant statement or figure of speech not intended to be taken literally, as "to wait an eternity." Kishimoto has used hyperbole many times in this manga:

- To call Minato unparalled
- The Yata Mirror invincible
- Kisame not even being 'able to make a difference against' Jiraiya
- Amaterasu is 'as hot as the sun'
- To describe Hashirama as being a fairytale similar to the Sage of 6 Paths.

People need to understand that such statements cannot be taken to be the literal truth; Kishi overexaggerates what he says about characters/objects in order to better describe them.

Gedo Mazo only crippled Nagato when he used one jutsu; the Soul Removal Dragon. It does not cripple him by simply being summoned.
 

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Indeed, the Yata Mirror has been described as a shield which can repel any attack. Alot of people have wrongly taken this statement to be absolute, and i'll further explain why.

Kishimoto complicated matters by introducing the bluntsword, Kabutowari. He described it as the sword that crushes all defenses.

Logically, 'All defences' includes the Yata Mirror itself, leading us to conclude that it would be able to crush the Mirror; this is an impossibility due to the authors previous description of the Yata Mirror.

There cannot be an immovable object (Yata Mirror) if there remains an unstoppable force (Kabutowari) - this is the conclusion reached by those who can use basic logic. The hype from one object contradicts the hype from another, and people must not be under the illusion that one 'hype' is superior to another.

So what on earth was Kishimoto on about then?
It was actually a basic use of hyperbole - obvious and intentional exaggeration or an extravagant statement or figure of speech not intended to be taken literally, as "to wait an eternity." Kishimoto has used hyperbole many times in this manga:

- To call Minato unparalled
- The Yata Mirror invincible
- Kisame not even being 'able to make a difference against' Jiraiya
- Amaterasu is 'as hot as the sun'
- To describe Hashirama as being a fairytale similar to the Sage of 6 Paths.

People need to understand that such statements cannot be taken to be the literal truth; Kishi overexaggerates what he says about characters/objects in order to better describe them.

Gedo Mazo only crippled Nagato when he used one jutsu; the Soul Removal Dragon. It does not cripple him by simply being summoned.
Lol, how do you change your username? I thought you had to be a premium user.
 

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Indeed, the Yata Mirror has been described as a shield which can repel any attack. Alot of people have wrongly taken this statement to be absolute, and i'll further explain why.

Kishimoto complicated matters by introducing the bluntsword, Kabutowari. He described it as the sword that crushes all defenses.

Logically, 'All defences' includes the Yata Mirror itself, leading us to conclude that it would be able to crush the Mirror; this is an impossibility due to the authors previous description of the Yata Mirror.

There cannot be an immovable object (Yata Mirror) if there remains an unstoppable force (Kabutowari) - this is the conclusion reached by those who can use basic logic. The hype from one object contradicts the hype from another, and people must not be under the illusion that one 'hype' is superior to another.

So what on earth was Kishimoto on about then?
It was actually a basic use of hyperbole - obvious and intentional exaggeration or an extravagant statement or figure of speech not intended to be taken literally, as "to wait an eternity." Kishimoto has used hyperbole many times in this manga:

- To call Minato unparalled
- The Yata Mirror invincible
- Kisame not even being 'able to make a difference against' Jiraiya
- Amaterasu is 'as hot as the sun'
- To describe Hashirama as being a fairytale similar to the Sage of 6 Paths.

People need to understand that such statements cannot be taken to be the literal truth; Kishi overexaggerates what he says about characters/objects in order to better describe them.

Gedo Mazo only crippled Nagato when he used one jutsu; the Soul Removal Dragon. It does not cripple him by simply being summoned.

So what your saying is that we have to go with our opinions since the manga is irrelevant these days. That's where I have been going all along :D just like you have to be of the same blood to stop tsukyonmi. ;) Kishi sure did a fine job at creating holes in Itachis techniques. xd
 

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Tobi was Nagato's boss & Nagato was Itachi's but the latter was a spy in the ranks so he just pretended to be apart of the organization.

Don't forget that Tobi gave Nagato the Rinnengan (which can still be false but highly likely if you think about it) and wouldn't fear a power that he has all of the intel on. As for Tobi fearing Itachi, for Tobi to take so much precaution when dealing with the latter meant that Itachi was a threat in his eyes (which he admits).

Tobi can defeat Nagato low to mid difficulty, Itachi > Nagato High difficulty (very High difficulty without intel)

One more thing .. Don't forget when attacking konoha, Itachi would not be the only one that Nagato's opponent.
 
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Lol, how do you change your username? I thought you had to be a premium user.

Hehe ;)

So what your saying is that we have to go with our opinions since the manga is irrelevant these days. That's where I have been going all along :D just like you have to be of the same blood to stop tsukyonmi. ;) Kishi sure did a fine job at creating holes in Itachis techniques. xd

- To call Minato unparalled
- The Yata Mirror invincible
- Kisame not even being 'able to make a difference against' Jiraiya
- Amaterasu is 'as hot as the sun'
- Kabutowari can break all defences

I take it all the Yata Mirror wankers believe these are all true also then?
 

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dafaq? tobi is scared of nagato? what the hell are you talking about? tobi orders nagato around and he said "i dont accept failure" like a boss
Tsk, he wasn't acting like how he is now when Nagato was alive. Tobi wasn't "bossing" Nagato around. They were cooperating together. Nagato was only going along with Tobi's plan only to take over, and do his own Plans. If Tobi wasn't scared of Nagato, he'd take on the leaf by himself, and wouldn't give him so much credit.
Who gives another man the tittle of the strongest man of the group without having fear of him? You see how Tobi revealed his own plans more than he did earlier? Because he knew the two big threats, Itachi and Nagato, were gone and he could do what he wanted to do with nobody to stop him. You can say, "I don't want any failure" to someone without being their Boss. Hell, I can say something like that to my friends with them knowing that they can't fail at doing what they're doing.
 
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